I saw a young person talking about how they just bought 6 vinyls from their favorite artists but that they didn’t have a “vinyl reader” to play them on yet, and I think I felt my face slide off.

#vinyl #RecordPlayer #HelloFellowKids #vintage

@KydiaMusic Vinyl reader? :)

I'm not surprised though. I've seen articles claiming 40% of the people buying vinyl don't own a turntable, and some articles say it's closer to 50%.

@VE3RWJ

It does make sense when I think about it, since the concept of a “record” is no longer tied to a specific medium. And some DJ decks are now fully digital, so “turntable” is also decoupled from the medium.

I also appreciate that the Kids are buying physical media again, and recognize it as an artform in its own right. And keeping that physical media pristine by still mostly listening to music via streaming and giving their favorite artists more streaming revenue is pretty savvy.

@KydiaMusic I still have all my old cd's, in case they come back in the same way in a few years' time. LOL Although I didn't keep the cases/covers.
@VE3RWJ @KydiaMusic can I play your CDs on my vinyl reader?
@VE3RWJ @KydiaMusic
Oh, noes, Chris!
Not saving CD cases and covers is equivalent to removing an antique's patina.
I am sending a protective spell in your direction.
@KydiaMusic I would even argue that Vinyl is far more Merchandise and a way to (financially) support the Artist than "the intended way to listen to the music". Thus, it makes total sense to buy a record without having a way to play it ^^

@KydiaMusic

*flabberhoozled by the dumbfuckery*
Gonna lose a $50 LP the first time they decide to 'skip' a song.

@GGMcBG @KydiaMusic

A kid I knew in junior high used nail polish to carefully paint over LP tracks he didn't like. It actually worked in that the needle would glide pretty quickly over and get caught by the next track. I can't imagine what it was doing to the needle, but none of us thought about that at the time.

@AdrianRiskin

Is that person a censor now by chance? 🤪
Interesting solution to a problem I never want to exist. I'm a full-albumist.

@KydiaMusic Makes perfect sense if you do not speak the language of the olds, really 😂

@sindarina

I love that, “the Language of the Olds,” written in ancient hieroglyphs, too—cursive, and Old School emojis ;) <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@KydiaMusic 🤣 wow I feel incredibly old now too 😹 my face would do the exact same thing 🫠
@KydiaMusic The other day I saw a headline use the word "stream" to describe a show airing on broadcast TV.
@KydiaMusic My nephew has his Dad’s turntable but had zero clue how to work it correctly, fix the needle or clean the record to reduce static noise. My husband and I were more than happy to educate and even though neither of had used a record in sometime it was like riding a bike. Also fun to share the experience with someone who’s genuinely into music played on vinyl.

@KydiaMusic

At a party at our house once, a friend's daughter remarked to him how cool it was that our stereo had a thing on top that made it look like it was playing a vinyl record, and he blew her mind by explaining to her that in fact it was playing a vinyl record and that's where the music they were hearing was coming from.

@stevegis_ssg @KydiaMusic We used to have big Christmas street parties years ago because we had a large young kid population.

One of the things we did was get out the movie projector and played some Super8 film reels.

Old Disney, Warner Brothers and similar vintage cartoons.

As we were setting up one boy exclaimed: "We're going to see a DVD!"

Wouldn't be told that this technology predated DVD, VHS and BetaMax.

@stuartl @KydiaMusic

So "DVD" just meant movie to him.

A collection of songs is called an "album" because, in the 78 rpm days, you could fit one song on each side of a disk, and a group of songs to be considered as a common work would be sold in an "album" of disks, much like a photo album. It amuses (and, okay, annoys) me that this is the usage that survived the transition to digital files, while "record" (literally just the result of recording) is understood to mean "vinyl disk."

@KydiaMusic

I think I felt my face slide off.

🤣

@nazokiyoubinbou

I’m sure it won’t be the last time, but it was an entirely new sensation in the moment.

@KydiaMusic If it makes you feel any better, I may not be able to do this for vinyls, but I have gotten this many many times (especially recently) in computing and gaming. People call systems "old" that I was playing almost daily up until maybe two years ago. Now I'm seeing games designed to look like they're in 320x200 or worse resolutions because they think it's a "neat retro effect."

When I was stuck with 320x200 I wanted nothing more than to see higher resolutions. I never once looked back. I still don't look back with nostalgia on just the resolutions themselves, only maybe what some did with them. But devs look back and just copy the substance of it. *Sigh*

@nazokiyoubinbou

It’s a similar issue with vinyl, probably. The “warmth” of vinyl that audiophiles praise is more due to the analog equipment it was originally recorded and mixed on, back before digital audio workstations and MIDI were not even options. Now that warmth is not easily replicated via digital tools and the vinyl itself is not going to impart that warmth on its own.

I listened to Shout by Tears for Fears on streaming through my studio speakers and the warmth was def still there.

@KydiaMusic Well, IMO the main benefit of vinyl is its relative immunity to the loudness war. A lot of people may not even realize that's the difference they're really looking for though. There is literally no reason that can't be done the same in digital except that they don't want to and honestly that kind of angers me.

I remember once getting the soundtrack on CD for a game with amazing music I enjoyed and the bad equalization they had put into the game itself was baked into the soundtrack even. There was literal clipping in the audio actually in the CD audio... And the thing is, if they made a vinyl and didn't reengineer it for that, it would still be just as bad, but the reason they would have to is it would produce multiple records for the one soundtrack...

@KydiaMusic @sindarina

*needle scratch*

(Funny story, but the post just below this one said *needle scratch*)

@KydiaMusic Issa Vinyl Reader where a woman in a turban gazes into the grooves of your disc, puts her hand to her forehead, then tells you what mood she feels as she reads the groove?

Seriously though, I know there are kids who buy records just to display them, never get a "reader." Then there are those who like the pops and ticks and scratches because somebody told them that's the coveted old-school, vinyl sound.

@KydiaMusic I’ve heard them called “the big black CDs my dad had” but this was. 10 years ago….
@KydiaMusic I bought a used turntable today for $25. I'm going to use it to listen to polka albums.

@KydiaMusic

Vinyl? I had to explain to a youngster what a DVD is...

@gotofritz @KydiaMusic that's crazy considering you can still buy them in Walmarts. I've definitely had to explain VHS to other people my age, though. I think I just have better early childhood memories.

@KydiaMusic I bought cassettes and have no cassette player. 🤷

You get the music some other way, and buy the physical medium to support the artist and have some kind of "token".

@ScriptFanix @KydiaMusic
I paid for CDs and i don't have anything i even want to put them in. The fact that they came with digital download makes me think maybe i should have got the vinyl instead (but it probably costs more)
I know i can use my PC to rip CDs again if i ever need to so that's practical for me at least

@KydiaMusic

Did you tell them how cheap record players are? They're only like $100-200 these days.

@KydiaMusic @synkr3tyk aren't they super cheap these days? those el cheapo 7" ones on amazon that only play 45s and only output through a builtin speaker and bluetooth, in order to protect people from the allure of golden cables
@KydiaMusic my mum's "vinyl reader" apparently has a USB port, which strikes me as very anachronistic. Apparently it's for recording.

@KydiaMusic total tangent, but that ALT text, is it bait? That's Private Ryan, not Benjamin Burton, isn't it?

Sorry to kinda call you out, I'm just making sure I haven't skipped into an alternative timeline

@Rubelicious

Congratulations on being perhaps the only person who took the time to read my ALTtext!

No it’s not bait, I’m just stupid 😂 (I haven’t seen Benjamin Button and don’t remember much of Saving Private Ryan, so I made an assumption).

I appreciate the way in which you called me out, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter on how to do so, as there are several men online whom I often want to call out, but don’t want to hurt their fragile egos.

@KydiaMusic @Rubelicious
I find just about everything amusing in its own way, Cat Lady Kydia, so I just assumed you were playing with us with your AltText.
And, yes, I AM easily amused, why do you ask?
@Guillotine_Jones @KydiaMusic it's definitely part-' is that a joke or am I stupid'
@KydiaMusic
They don't have the LP machine
I have the LP machine I still used
I conected to my Sony sound system
@KydiaMusic I still have a vinyl reader; 46 years old now!! Best hang onto it...🤔

@KydiaMusic "vinyl reader" this has me *howling*

Like it makes sense if you extrapolate backward (card reader) so they at least made an attempt but oh wow.

@KydiaMusic Astound them by using a paper cone with a pin in it to play old cheap vinyl spun around on a crude turntable. No codecs, decompression or other software needed. Pure analog sound (more or less and definitely less than what is impressed on the groove).
When the apocalypse comes it will be considered a novel form of entertainment. Everything with a chip will be useless plastic and silicon.
@KydiaMusic I wonder if some people are buying them simply to function as a collectible and with no intention of actually playing them? Records look cool by themselves.

@HannahClover @KydiaMusic

yes, this (collecting vinyl) is definitely a huge thing among younger folks now

i have always had a turntable, and i still have a vinyl collection
showing my age but..sheet, i even know how to crossfade. DJs these days don't even use records anymore! 😂

@rustoleumlove @HannahClover

I think he had every intention of buying a turntable/record player soon, he just bought the records first. And yeah, many people buy vinyl and view it solely as merch and keep it pristine. Also for all I know, he was making a joke in calling it a “vinyl reader”

@KydiaMusic

word. that's an excellent joke

@KydiaMusic
Humans are doomed.

@gw6kwm

Ok but I don’t think this specific example is why.