The Pentagon says only 23% of Gen Z is fit to serve. The rest are either obese, failing math, or already have a rap sheet.

Turns out if you gut schools and subsidize corn syrup long enough, you accidentally pacifist-proof the entire country.

Tactical genius.

Army extends maximum recruitment age to 42, allowing older recruits to join

The Army will also now allow recruits with one marijuana-related conviction.

ABC News
@Strandjunker Reading the headline, below I saw "Steve Bannon"🤣 ...*looks up optician phone number *
@Unknowable @Strandjunker I did the same thing as well ✌️
@Strandjunker Embarrassing levels of desperation.
@Strandjunker I mean, I was an athlete in college, and probably could have made it through basic without washing out. By 30, I was still in pretty good shape, and could maybe, maybe made it through basic, by 40, there is no freaking way I could have done what my 20 year old self could do...at least not without a day or so to recover. 42 in basic is insane. They will have to lower the standards so much that ICE would qualify, and those guys can’t can’t their breath, much less someone running away.

@Strandjunker The return of McNamara's Misfits

It was pretty well-documented how poorly they fared both in service and out.

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My son did basic at 37 because he couldn't find a job anywhere else and barely survived. They must be getting desperate if they think 42 year old will pass training.

@Strandjunker meat waves for the not-a-war Special Combat Operation?

Edit: the rap sheet condition is absolutely rich considering we jail our own citizens at an incredibly higher rate than literally China does to its own citizens...

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Hey, the chickenhawks can go fight all they want.
@Strandjunker "Obese, failing math, or already have a rap sheet" Describes President Bone Spurs perfectly 😀
@kersnazzle @Strandjunker Too okd by far for cannon fodder.
@Strandjunker also, if you keep sending folks to die for the Epstein class, it tends to hurt recruitment. There's been talk of lowering the standards because they can't get enough folks to sign up.
@Strandjunker This insane obsession with math is so ill conceived. Numeracy is often enough.

@NicelyManifest @Strandjunker What an odd takeaway.

A basic understanding of math and geometry are required to even execute military tactics properly.

@jesse @Strandjunker I stand corrected.

Can you elaborate?

@NicelyManifest @jesse @Strandjunker

Something as simple as "safely get your platoon to this location by a certain time" requires doing math to get it right.

https://dn710301.ca.archive.org/0/items/FM21-181966/FM21-181966.pdf

@eestileib @jesse @Strandjunker Hardly math. More geography and logistics. And the platoon members not party to that decision ... much military behaviour is following orders.
@eestileib @NicelyManifest @Strandjunker Yeah I didn't answer because it's bait, not genuine curiosity.

@jesse @eestileib @Strandjunker It was genuine curiosity. You make a false presumption.

I was a 1st class mathematician when younger. Even with that passion I could see that most maths taught was rarely needed in the lives of most people. And that the flood of what is taught compromises the basic numeracy faculty which IS important.

@NicelyManifest @Strandjunker I don't imagine they're required multi variant infinitesimal calculus
@Strandjunker Embrace the power of lower standards. They will, after all.
Inside the Pentagon's shameful effort to draft mentally disabled men to fight in Vietnam

The story of how men were aggressively recruited and pushed through training without having met even the minimum of standards set for them.

Task & Purpose

@LevZadov

This is astounding. Saying the quiet parts out loud? 😲

"Labor Secretary Daniel Moynihan said, 'Expectations of what can be done in America are receding. Our best hope is to use the Armed Forces as a socializing experience for the poor.'"

@jmax @Strandjunker

@IAmDannyBoling @LevZadov @Strandjunker It never ceases to amaze me how many authoritarian regimes think arming the people you're shitting on hardest is a good plan.

@jmax

The US is practically famous for doing just that but in other countries besides our own.

@LevZadov @Strandjunker

@IAmDannyBoling @LevZadov @Strandjunker Well, in fairness, we know a bad idea when we hear one.

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The army banned me from joining.

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They mean that 77% is fit for ICE.
@Strandjunker ...which also in so many strange ways explains the weird push of the propaganda Andrew Tates of this world as a solution to the incel epidemic. they need fit cannon fodder
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I thought a criminal record was an ASSET for serving in the military?
@Quasit @Strandjunker
Only for Commander in Chief, apparently...
@Strandjunker Why not just deploy ICE instead?

@bouriquet because ICE can only confront unarmed civilians

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@Strandjunker They can still get a job with DHS, though.

@Strandjunker The kids are allright*

*as long as they are not alt-right

@Strandjunker FYI, "obese"/"obesity" is a fatphobic slur, BMI is a pseudoscience, and fat people are not failed thin people who ate too much food. please do better.
@YKantRachelRead @Strandjunker
Obesity was the term used in the ABC report. In this instance the word was probably used for accuracy. I also believe in healthcare one will find obesity as a common nomenclature.
@CaymanPilot @Strandjunker do you also believe that reports on transfeminine people like me that refer to us as "trans-identified males" mean that it's okay to uncritically repeat that language?
@CaymanPilot @YKantRachelRead @Strandjunker don’t do “better”. Fat isn’t healthy and we don’t have to lie so they feel better about killing themselves.
@YKantRachelRead @Strandjunker BMI is definitely not an accurate measure of a person's health, however obesity is an accepted medical term. I don't believe OP is saying that "fat people are failed thin people", however the physicality required in military basic training may be impacted by body fat percentage, whether it be too high OR too low. Also, there is a documented child/youth obesity epidemic in America (which is a direct product of uncontrolled capitalism and not a moral failing)
@YKantRachelRead @Strandjunker https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9232860/#R1
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight
"Obesity is classified by the World Health Organization (WHO) as a chronic, relapsing disease arising from complex interactions between genetics, neurobiology, eating behaviours, access to healthy diet, market forces, and the broader environment."
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@ashesx2xashes @Strandjunker

fat liberation activists and eating disorder advocates (among others) do consider "obese"/"obesity" to be a slur. see e.g. https://www.allianceforeatingdisorders.com/obesity-is-fatphobic/

Weight is an arbitrary, inaccurate measure of health. Weight alone does not cause health problems or increase mortality. Many factors can affect body weight. And those that have the most influence are not within an individual’s control, contrary to popular belief about diet and exercise. These include genetics, race, ethnicity, environment, income, and socioeconomic status.

What using the word “ob*sity,” labeling people as “ob*se,” and claiming “ob*sity” as a disease does do is stigmatize fat people. This is what causes serious harm and leads to the very health complications the healthcare community blames on weight–including eating disorders, which do have a very high mortality rate.

the root word of 'obese' is the Latin 'obesus,' literally "to eat until you're fat." the word in itself is therefore stigmatizing to fat people: https://www.etymonline.com/word/obese

I strongly recommend doing more research and listening to more fat liberation activists. medicalized fatphobia has devastating real-world consequences for fat people, and what generally happens is those consequences are turned around on us and we're blamed for our own oppression.

Why the Word “Ob*sity” is Fatphobic - National Alliance for Eating Disorders

The pervasiveness of the word “obesity” underlines the fact that the damage of weight stigma is greater risk to public health than living in a larger body.

National Alliance for Eating Disorders
@YKantRachelRead @Strandjunker
I was unaware of the preferred terminology, apologies and thank you for educating me!
At the same time, Ob*seity is, at the time being, still the accepted medical terminology. Many people are also consistently taught that the word "fat" is not the word they should be using, that it is rude.
Again, I do not think that OP was saying that "fat people are failed thin people" by any stretch and they explicitly reference one of the reasons for unhealthy weight gain.

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77% unfit?

Sounds like my generation during the Viet Nam "not-a-war". But they were happy to draft us anyway.

97% unfit would be like the generation that's now in charge of the Government.

Thanks for the data on Gen Z. You've convinced me that they have a good chance to be the best of the best. 😁

@Strandjunker meanwhile, they're culling trans service members, and women who serve are next.

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well, if they can't join the military, they can probably pass the ICE recruitment requirements... SMDH...

@Strandjunker there’s also the part where getting digital medical records meant that lots of preexisting conditions that recruits could lie about then suddenly develop after training were getting caught up in filters.

@TindrasGrove @Strandjunker
Thanks Obama, I guess?

Digitization of medical records was something he pushed for. Tons of mine are now missing because since I wasn’t “currently a patient” when they switched companies, mine disappeared because the office didn’t want to pay to bring them over.

@pomegranate_stew @Strandjunker I’m just amused that instead of reconsidering that maybe ADHD shouldn’t necessarily be screened out, we instead are upping enlistment age.
@TindrasGrove @Strandjunker
I’m actually ok with this. Not because it should happen, because it shouldn’t, but it’s one of two reasons my youngest wouldn’t be considered. 🙂

@Strandjunker 23% are fit to serve or 23% of the ones that try to enlist are fit to serve?

A very big difference. The last 25 years have made military service an unattractive option for folks who have other choices

Edit - nvm I found it. Oof - looks like promoting terrible school lunches and no healthcare is actually impacting the population hard on this. I wonder if since it impacts the military so much it might cause some shifts in policy on the right? Probably not

@Jer @Strandjunker Well... Back then in the German Empire we got child labour protection laws as the military complained that to many new recruits were, despite their young age, having to serious health issues to serve.