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★ Amy Star ★2d ago

i'm pivoting to AI (Artificial Incompetence)

Stefan Gast 12h ago

★ Amy Star ★

in case you need a taste of how fucked the tech industry is right now, I'm being required to use AI at work. if I talk about how it fucks up or overcomplicates basic asks, it's because I "don't know how to use it" which indicates a "lack of growth mindset", and thus poor performance. I've been told this directly to my face, starting immediately.

so not only must I use Claude, I have to cover for Claude's mistakes, and then go the extra mile to pass off my own work as Claude's.

★ Amy Star ★2d ago

anyway, I need to pay rent, so I guess I'm a slopper now.

at this point, I want to move to a farm and shovel pig shit for the rest of my life.

eilidh, sus took her home 2d ago

@AmyZenunim I'm so sorry. That's such bullshit.

This kind of shit is why I'm trying to get the pre-reqs I need to get into a nursing program. I'm just done with professional computer touching at this point.

I hope you're eventually able to find a job that doesn't force this kind of horse shit on you. Or if you're actually serious about the farm thing, I do know some pretty rad resources for aspiring farmers I could send your way?

Jeff Grigg 1d ago

@sidepony @AmyZenunim

Note: LLMs are filling the healthcare field with dangerously misleading nonsense that kills people. 💢

eilidh, sus took her home 1d ago

@JeffGrigg @AmyZenunim My last job was in healthcare IT. I resigned in protest because I refused to participate in the provisioning of a so-called "AI scribe" product in provider exam rooms. So believe me, I know.

@sidepony @JeffGrigg @AmyZenunim willing to share more details? My parent's doctor uses some variant if this (and the medical software I've personally seen and worked on was bad on fundamental levels let alone security or any other specific metric)

Мейкпост 13h ago

@sidepony Respect for your protest. @JeffGrigg @AmyZenunim

@AmyZenunim Did I recently check what it would take to sustain myself with trout farming, for exactly these same reasons?
Yes.

brainwashed by lentils 1d ago

@bovaz @AmyZenunim
going from slop fondler to animal abuser is not an upgrade. plz grow veg instead, and watch this:
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@bovaz Are you knee deep in fish now?

@AmyZenunim I wonder if this will get tech workers to develop greater class consciousness or no.

BTW, is there a list somewhere of companies using AI (internally or not) so I can avoid them? I really don't want to be taking on the risks associated with poorly-engineered/unengineered technology.

★ Amy Star ★1d ago

@lykso I'm an anarcho-socialist. but I'm also a disabled minority. I already stuck my neck out at this company and got nothing in return except extra scrutiny. I don't come from any appreciable wealth, and I have to pay rent, so Im just going to have to grin and bear it.

The Witch of Crow Briar 1d ago

@AmyZenunim @lykso I’m sorry :( 🫂

@AmyZenunim
But the good news is, the tool isn't free, so you can probably make it run extra hard and cost just about to much to whoever is asking you to use it...
@lykso

Matt Rife 14h ago

@lykso @AmyZenunim I haven't seen any signs of increased class consciousness, but that's just anecdata from my tiny corner of the world. As for companies using AI, I think the better question is, "which ones aren't using it?" because as far as I can tell they are ALL on the hype train.

Mike Spencer 1d ago

@AmyZenunim
I bought a fountain pen. Communicate the old fashioned way 😂

DJ Sexy Fresh 1d ago

@mikerspencer @AmyZenunim use it submit a hand-written resignation letter as a flex

Mike Spencer 1d ago

@djsf @AmyZenunim I did one in the (nearly) casio calculator font https://fontmeme.com/fonts/qt-eurotype-font/ 😅

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Matt Rife 14h ago

@djsf @mikerspencer @AmyZenunim I first read that as "...resignation letter by fax." Which would be incredible, tbh.

Craig Duncan 1d ago

For your sake, I hope you keep answering honestly (and resisting), or find something else. It's not your growth they care about.

Oppression is being told how to think.

@AmyZenunim I don't think they can see what you're using Claude for, just how many tokens you've spent.
So if you just do what you used to do, and have Claude come up with some original recipes for pies in the meanwhile, they probably will never know. 😁

@n3wjack @AmyZenunim I don’t think such approach will work for long. Becaue at some point, they also expect a massive growth in efficiency using AI - as promised by BigTech. So projects have to be completed much faster, which is just impossible to achieve without AI. And if you‘re not producing results fast enough - again it‘s your fault.

n3wjack 20h ago

@3mind @AmyZenunim But how are they going to measure that efficiency gain? I have my doubts LLMs are actually speeding things up. You still have to double-check and review everything it spits out, which takes time. If you don't, you'll end up with mistakes you'll have to clean up later. So there goes your efficiency.
For some jobs it's just faster if you don't use it at all.

@n3wjack @3mind @AmyZenunim

> I have my doubts LLMs are actually speeding things up.

The expectation is to see more patches co-authored by Claude or similar, which completes stories and deliver something, even if it's incomplete, buggy or plainly wrong. It doesn't matter how many new specs are being added or how confident are you in the result; what it matters is getting things out of the door - push it, crush it.

That's kind of the never-ending cycle at least for software developer context.

The Lack Thereof

@AmyZenunim
Same.

They're paying for my time, if they want to waste it I guess that's their business

@AmyZenunim Same, and I never thought that I would regret not taking the agritech program option for high school.

/usr/local/goth @ home 13h ago

@AmyZenunim yeah it sucks, things haven't escalated to that point for me yet. Huh thought just occurred to me of slapping a coauthored by Claude on random shit

Mx. Eddie R 13h ago

@AmyZenunim
Same. I'm looking for something better, but it's a slog through endless other slop shops, competing with other good devs for the few organic dev jobs still out there.

Meanwhile I've gotta eat to live and gotta work to eat, so slop it is.

@AmyZenunim this sound suspiciously familiar. It's either terribly common or we share an employer 🥲

Anyway, moving to farming is exactly what I'm doing now, shoveling shit gives more satisfaction to me than forced bot interlocution.

MissConstrue 12h ago

@hkz @AmyZenunim My gigs have slowed to a crawl, so I decided to turn some of my land into agricultural, and I’m starting very small, less than an acre. Girl, I bought a rototiller. And I used it. For about four hours, and it’s taken two days to not feel like I was hit by a truck. I’ve ridden cattle, but never farmed...holy shit, farming is hard! (The goal is to grow produce for the only non religious food bank in the area, at the rate I’m going, I may be able to offer a tomato.)

@AmyZenunim this is *precisely* where I’m at with this stuff. I’m a slipper at work but I hate it.

Bill VE7WYC 2d ago

@AmyZenunim Uggh. I had a manager who summarized our reports with ChatGPT, making extra work for us because we then had to review his summary for accuracy. I found hallucinated slop. I told him it was a waste of our time. He actually listened.

gunstick 18h ago

@VE7WYC @AmyZenunim I even did not start with correcting my manager's slop speeches.
He stopped the bullshit some time later.
#win

🌸 Vårgubben 1d ago

@AmyZenunim I do not understand this. Don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m perfectly capable of getting things severely wrong by my own accord.

Why do I suddenly (after 20 years on the job) need a subscription to environmentally horrific auto complete trained on theft?

@jordgubben @AmyZenunim There are a lot more of y'all than there are of them. If y'all hate it so much, make a union and force your bosses to make better choices.

🌸 Vårgubben 11h ago

@lykso @AmyZenunim Fortunately we already have a union, and we are already organising around this.

@jordgubben @AmyZenunim Re: AI
Grand Theft AutoComplete!

PhilWill 1d ago

Dogiedog64 1d ago

They really are just trying to kill off the software dev as a profession, huh. Even if the bots can't replace you, they're trying to cripple your skills as well. Wishing you the best in making it out of this nightmare with all your capabilities intact.

Third spruce tree on the left 1d ago

and THEN, when Claude injects some shit into your product that breaks it with catastrophic results, you'll get dumped on for not reviewing Claude's work sufficiently well, to which you respond "If I have to review its work, how does that save time?" to why they'll tell you to shut up.

I feel ya. Im right there with ya.

i said review takes time. they said “skill issue”

@tezoatlipoca @AmyZenunim

Chris Pitts 1d ago

@AmyZenunim “Here's a hammer. Use it to bang in these screws, and it's your fault if it doesn't work” 🙄🤦‍♂️

Quantum ⊂ AI 1d ago

@thirstybear @AmyZenunim Here's a wrench. Use the heavy end of it to bang in these screws. Get on board or get left behind etc etc

Emelia/Emi 1d ago

@AmyZenunim I'm getting whiffs of that coming down the pipe at [redacted] and am currently hoping to high hell that the bubble goes bang before that happens... I've had to explain to my boss that one of the reasons I'm so far above my "experience bracket" in terms of programming skill is because I don't think in "natural language," so prompting the robot slows me down, and that's on top of all the other bullshit. (And I do actually have documented disabilities with regards to putting thoughts into natural language, so I suspect the ADA could have some teeth if they try to force the issue...)

Emelia/Emi 1d ago

@AmyZenunim ...and shortly after I made that reply, one of my coworkers PRed a giant mass of vibecode. Thankfully it's almost entirely DTOs in a brand new package, so it couldn't mangle things that badly, but it's clear from the comments and (lack of) naming "sense" that he just let the "AI" run wild without really understanding anything it was doing. Certainly doesn't help that his programming fundamentals were somewhat lacking to begin with, though. (I noticed him starting to lean on it a while back and warned him it was a bad idea. Looks like he hasn't listened...)

(I can also Just Tell that it wasn't him who wrote most of it. It's not written in his usual style at all. There was no real thought process, only pulling the handle on the fruit machine and committing the result if it looked like it got things closer to working. And yes, I can tell that just from the code. It's soulless, the thought patterns I can usually see just aren't there)

Kg. Madee Ⅱ.1d ago

@AmyZenunim oh no :(

DoomBananas 🇳🇴1d ago

@AmyZenunim have you checked for loopholes?...

AI is not explicit Neural Networks or Large Language Models for that matter, it's just a branch of all the intelligent machines we have.

Just bring a thermostat to work and call it a day. Thats feedback loops and those are AI.

@AmyZenunim right there with you. CTO and COO have been pushing AI at my work place. The result? Merge requests with a dozen useless commits, and everyone barely has a clue what's what. But it's okay, we've got Claude reviewing the code that Claude produces, not sure about the result? Just keep running it over and over rather than actually looking at anything, wheeeeee...

Yeah, it sucks. There's no regard for quality.

@AmyZenunim I have this at work too :/

I'm hoping it's some kind of mass delusion that passes when the bubble pops and no one can afford it any more!

Liv, Salty Dog 1d ago

@AmyZenunim I’m sending psychic torture waves to your boss

Paul - Antifa. LGBTQ+ safe.1d ago

@AmyZenunim I feel so sorry for you! This is insane.

@AmyZenunim this is exactly my nightmare scenario. I feel for you.

Erin Ptah 1d ago

Is "tell the company AI to do something token-using in the background, get on with doing normal accurate work yourself" an option?

(I'd say "something that provides actual value to somebody else", but examples are hard to come up with. Maybe have it write fanfiction? At least there the errors are funny.)

Jeff Grigg 1d ago

There's more than enough Generative AI slop "fan fiction" driving the public social media sites these days.

@ErinPtah
@AmyZenunim
I think "tell the company AI to do something token-using in the background" would be called "agentic", which would probably count as even better than using it directly

One could even set it working on the actual code + ticket, in case there are spot checks

#GenAI #LLM #MaliciousCompliance

O‘Mimesis 1d ago

@AmyZenunim Crazy dumb people Claude is dumb as fu€&@ too

@AmyZenunim I just heard almost the same story, just this morning, from a friend in Poland. He mentioned how his programming skills were atrophying because he's just an assistant for the AI.

Which makes me wonder: If you're coding all the time, how will you adequately review the AI code for errors?

DJ Sexy Fresh 1d ago

@AmyZenunim this happened to me at my last job too. I feel for you. Hang in there.

catsynth / amanda c 1d ago

@AmyZenunim so glad I left the industry when I did. (Last year)

Mike Siegel 1d ago

@AmyZenunim I feel like half the posts I see are "I'm an AI vegan if you use AI you are a terrible human being" and the other half are "OMFG AI IS GUNNA SOLVE CANCER TOMORROW!" and it's like bro I got rent to pay so I learned about Ralph loops what do you want from me.

@AmyZenunim exactly the same for me.