in case you need a taste of how fucked the tech industry is right now, I'm being required to use AI at work. if I talk about how it fucks up or overcomplicates basic asks, it's because I "don't know how to use it" which indicates a "lack of growth mindset", and thus poor performance. I've been told this directly to my face, starting immediately.
so not only must I use Claude, I have to cover for Claude's mistakes, and then go the extra mile to pass off my own work as Claude's.
anyway, I need to pay rent, so I guess I'm a slopper now.
at this point, I want to move to a farm and shovel pig shit for the rest of my life.
@AmyZenunim I'm so sorry. That's such bullshit.
This kind of shit is why I'm trying to get the pre-reqs I need to get into a nursing program. I'm just done with professional computer touching at this point.
I hope you're eventually able to find a job that doesn't force this kind of horse shit on you. Or if you're actually serious about the farm thing, I do know some pretty rad resources for aspiring farmers I could send your way?
Note: LLMs are filling the healthcare field with dangerously misleading nonsense that kills people. 💢
@AmyZenunim I wonder if this will get tech workers to develop greater class consciousness or no.
BTW, is there a list somewhere of companies using AI (internally or not) so I can avoid them? I really don't want to be taking on the risks associated with poorly-engineered/unengineered technology.
For your sake, I hope you keep answering honestly (and resisting), or find something else. It's not your growth they care about.
Oppression is being told how to think.
@AmyZenunim
Same.
They're paying for my time, if they want to waste it I guess that's their business
@AmyZenunim I do not understand this. Don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m perfectly capable of getting things severely wrong by my own accord.
Why do I suddenly (after 20 years on the job) need a subscription to environmentally horrific auto complete trained on theft?
They really are just trying to kill off the software dev as a profession, huh. Even if the bots can't replace you, they're trying to cripple your skills as well. Wishing you the best in making it out of this nightmare with all your capabilities intact.
and THEN, when Claude injects some shit into your product that breaks it with catastrophic results, you'll get dumped on for not reviewing Claude's work sufficiently well, to which you respond "If I have to review its work, how does that save time?" to why they'll tell you to shut up.
I feel ya. Im right there with ya.
@AmyZenunim ...and shortly after I made that reply, one of my coworkers PRed a giant mass of vibecode. Thankfully it's almost entirely DTOs in a brand new package, so it couldn't mangle things that badly, but it's clear from the comments and (lack of) naming "sense" that he just let the "AI" run wild without really understanding anything it was doing. Certainly doesn't help that his programming fundamentals were somewhat lacking to begin with, though. (I noticed him starting to lean on it a while back and warned him it was a bad idea. Looks like he hasn't listened...)
(I can also Just Tell that it wasn't him who wrote most of it. It's not written in his usual style at all. There was no real thought process, only pulling the handle on the fruit machine and committing the result if it looked like it got things closer to working. And yes, I can tell that just from the code. It's soulless, the thought patterns I can usually see just aren't there)
@AmyZenunim have you checked for loopholes?...
AI is not explicit Neural Networks or Large Language Models for that matter, it's just a branch of all the intelligent machines we have.
Just bring a thermostat to work and call it a day. Thats feedback loops and those are AI.
@AmyZenunim right there with you. CTO and COO have been pushing AI at my work place. The result? Merge requests with a dozen useless commits, and everyone barely has a clue what's what. But it's okay, we've got Claude reviewing the code that Claude produces, not sure about the result? Just keep running it over and over rather than actually looking at anything, wheeeeee...
Yeah, it sucks. There's no regard for quality.
@AmyZenunim I have this at work too :/
I'm hoping it's some kind of mass delusion that passes when the bubble pops and no one can afford it any more!
Is "tell the company AI to do something token-using in the background, get on with doing normal accurate work yourself" an option?
(I'd say "something that provides actual value to somebody else", but examples are hard to come up with. Maybe have it write fanfiction? At least there the errors are funny.)
There's more than enough Generative AI slop "fan fiction" driving the public social media sites these days.
@AmyZenunim I just heard almost the same story, just this morning, from a friend in Poland. He mentioned how his programming skills were atrophying because he's just an assistant for the AI.
Which makes me wonder: If you're coding all the time, how will you adequately review the AI code for errors?
If gen AI is so awesome, why are companies mandating it? Shouldn't its value just become obvious?
I am reminded of something Tim Bray wrote about blockchain years ago:
" I’m an old guy: I’ve seen wave after wave of landscape-shifting technology sweep through the IT space: Personal computers, Unix, C, the Internet and Web, Java, REST, mobile, public cloud. And without exception, I observed that they were initially loaded in the back door by geeks, without asking permission, because they got shit done and helped people with their jobs.
That’s not happening with blockchain. Not in the slightest. Which is why I don’t believe in it."
Quote from https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2017/05/13/Not-Believing-in-Blockchain
Ugh, getting assigned a second boss and one of them can't even be bothered to act like they are human.
This sounds excruciating.
I'm hearing it from all quarters these days, though.
I cannot wait for the bubble to burst so people can get back to using their own intelligence, their own training, and their own brains to get things done.
As an actual human scribe who takes pride in their work, I had a request last month by one of my organizers to use AI to try to "help me get the notes done faster" -- and was provided with a 31 page run-on sentence full of hallucinations and mispunctuations and zero clue as to who was speaking from the AI transcript to try to wade through. 😡
I gave it the proverbial "college try" and was able to prove that it did *not* help me get the notes into a cogent form faster. In fact it made the process about twice as long, because I had to check every word in that 31 pages against what I was hearing and what I had already noted down.
I requested that I never have to use the AI transcript again. They're free to record it and free to do that to their heart's content for whatever reasons they may have, but I want no truck with it.
Thankfully, it's a volunteer job, so I can do it however the heck I want. I'm going to continue to use my own ears, my own hands, my own technique, and my own brain from here on out.
I would wish that kind of autonomy on everyone who's being forced to use AI. It should be optional, not mandatory.
I think it was my joke about needing to go save some turtles to offset the water and energy costs of the AI transcript that probably made my organizer not push it any further. I'm finding out that most ordinary people don't understand the environmental costs of it! That really, really scares me.
Tech industry hypergrowth is over and it turns out that big fancy industry leaders don't have a lot of other ideas hm.