I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.
10/10 no notes.
@engideer @sraars @GossiTheDog
No! You can turn all AI features off in Kagi, and even if you do ask for an AI summary it must be a deliberate action.
Plus their AI responses are heavily referenced with links to sources so you can verify. It's a very different (and refreshing) experience from Google.
@ralfmaximus @sraars @GossiTheDog Oh my god ew, I regret checking it out. Looks like it's an AI firm that decided to rebrand as a search engine, ran by a right wing tech bro π€’
There's a good article here with tons of sources https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html
But this tweet here by the CEO was already all I needed to see tbh https://x.com/vladquant/status/1647017761569402882
Love him bragging that his AI marks the most milquetoast possible criticism of a literal Neonazi as bad journalism, because the article paints bigotry in a bad light. Amazing stuff.
@GossiTheDog I think you'd get a "hoot" out of Louis Rossman's videos on how using Google Gemini to entirely rewrite his website made it show up as #1 on Google Search when he hadn't been able to get his own human written one on there for close to a year. π«
It's horrible
To do internet searches without getting that annoying #AIsummary (which usually makes for one more useless thing to scroll through to get to the links you want to see, and which wastes a large amount of electricity every time), you can add a simple bit of text at the beginning or end of your search query.
Type βhyphen AIβ at the start or end of any search query to not get that annoying AI summary at the top of your search results (which usually makes for one more useless thing to scroll through to get to the links you want to see, and which wastes data center electricity every time).
For example:
-ai Names of all four Beatles
**OR**
Names of all four Beatles -ai
#AIprompts #GoogleTricks #AIsummaries #AI #GoogleSearching #GoogleSearch #InternetSearch #SearchEngines #Searches #Googling #AvoidingAI #NoAI
@AnneTheWriter1 @thomkennon @GossiTheDog Or, even better, change your default search engine! #Startpage, for example, gives you non-personalised results retrieved from Google and comes without AI. According to their privacy policy they don't track every search you do, unlike #Google!
Remember: If you use Google, any identifiers like a login to your Google Account will be used by Google to link all of your search prompts to you! And most of Android users are logged in to their Google account on their device.
#Metager can also be recommended in case you are willing to pay a small amount. And there are even more search engines...
For more info (in German) visit
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#suchmaschine
"Oh and did you click the little π icon to see what the source was? No, I don't trust the answer until I check that and you shouldn't too. What if it's a joke post on reddit that's taken seriously?"
@gbargoud @GossiTheDog
Yes was testing that as a possible pointer to real authoritative content - or likely not!
The thing this bullshit eclipses is the authority of the crowd we've been accessing for 20+ years w/the 1000 ranking factors from the search algos.
They're destroying their product to save their investment in compute.
The good news it's also a sign collapse is near & it will be ugly & painful & then there's the other side of chaos we get to rebuild our share worlds together. : )
I don't think I have successfully gotten anyone to do that who wouldn't have done it already but I'm definitely going to keep trying
I unironically think that the librarian job will be in much more demand soon, just with finding data online that is not slop.
@GossiTheDog I see this pretty much daily when I'm Googling for niche technical answers, and Google AI-ception happens via reddit, too.
AI misunderstood the question, AI misunderstood the answer that AI wrote that was based on information did AI didn't understand in the first place.
@Guillotine_Jones @GossiTheDog You could read "misunderstands" as "fails to understand", if that helps.
But it's a distinction without a difference in the outcome.
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Maypop the Dragonudm=14?for anyone who comes across this and does not know: adding the parameter udm=14 to the google search url takes you to a secret "web" tab that just has web results, no A"I" (it also doesn't have knowledge panes).
there's a frontend for it at https://udm14.com
but i prefer to do it with a custom search engine entry because that sends my data to fewer parties:https://www.google.com/search?udm=14&q=%s
@GossiTheDog I am literally scoring a RAG right now and the dataset returned has the *exact* correct command...
given that command, the llm still returned totally fabricated nonsense.
It's nuts all the way down
I identified your mistake in the first four words.
:snake-eating-its-own-butt:
@GossiTheDog Everything human-made like literature, music, art etcetera pre-A.I. era is going to be of so much more value.
Knowing that it could not be made with the help of or by A.I. is making those things very special.
For thousands of years we needed our brains and hands to figure it all out by our selves. How to solve problems.
Now we have A.I. as solution that will fix the ultimate problem: us.
@GossiTheDog I even dare to say 'pre-A.I. era' will be a valuable label.
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