Do you think social media platforms should be held more accountable?

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@BuyFromEU Hell! They should! But that is just a first step, and that doesn't come that much a long way if government officials continue using those said platforms. What will make the difference on the long-term is to embrace the alternative.
@BuyFromEU Vous voulez dire qu'elles devraient censurer la pensée non conforme?
@albert4064 @BuyFromEU Oui - d’un façon. Mais ce n’est pas ce qu’il disait
@BuyFromEU AFAIK Sanchez is PM of Spain, not a president.
@ThePolishDispatch @BuyFromEU Our constitution says "president of the government", and it also talks about vice presidents and ministers of the government.
@icg937 @BuyFromEU Oh, thank you for the explanation.
@ThePolishDispatch @icg937 @BuyFromEU Ah okay. Didn't know that, either. I was also wondering, since parliamentary monarchies do not have a presidents but a king or queen representing the state and a prime minister representing the government. But when thinking about this explanation it makes sense: the German term for prime minister is indeed also minister-president - so quite similar.

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The role of Pedro Sánchez is "presidente", which usually is translated as "president". It's exactly the same term we use in Spanish for Trump or Macron, for example. The only person over him is the King, and in Spain the King is mostly an ornamental figure. Sánchez is not technically a chief of state, because the chief of state is the King.

But, apparently, in English you can't be a president if you are not a chief of state, so in this case the our "presidente" can't be a "president". And it shouldn't be called Prime Minister, because his role is not the same as, say, Starmer's.

Apparently, Pedro Sanchez doesn't mind being called Prime Minister (https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/opinion/spain-migrants-europe.html). As an Spaniard, I find it really, really weird; I think for most of us, he is a president, period.

But English is weird, and should be spoken they way English speakers do.

So what do I know.

Language is weird.

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@BuyFromEU It depends, if there was intent, then yes. If some account on their platform gets hacked by a rouge actor and starts breaking the law, then probably no (but this is more nuanced).
@BuyFromEU I think fuck corporations and use The Internet. Problem solved.
@BuyFromEU Accountable to who?

@2legged @BuyFromEU Someone elected in a meaningful election and therefore themselves accountable.

Elon and his gang are not accountable to anyone

@2legged @BuyFromEU the law at the very least

@BuyFromEU My only real concern here is that moderation is, in fact, a huge undertaking, and laws about platform accountability are going to be written with corporations like X, Meta, etc in mind. They can and should be having large moderation teams, but someone running a Mastodon instance on their home lab doesn't have the same resources.

If legislators aren't careful, it becomes really easy for malicious actors to get platform maintainers fined/jailed.

@BuyFromEU If US can jail executive who knew and forced to make VW DieselGate -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Schmidt_(engineer)

Then why we cannot jail executive who is spreading missinformation, dismantle moderation etc in social platforms?
Where is the difference?

Oliver Schmidt (engineer) - Wikipedia

@BuyFromEU absolutely. Algorithms and code must be open-source. Musk is responsible for Xitter
@BuyFromEU Sanchez for president (of europe)

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Oh yeah! I wished germany would have a Bundeskanzler like him, just once... 😢

@BuyFromEU well said! Maybe lets do the same for every kind of business
@BuyFromEU Of course they should. It should have happen a long time ago.

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BREAKING: - President of Spain, Pedro Sánchez:
"We must speak clearly about the management of platforms such as X and the vision of figures like Elon Musk. Freedom of expression is not the right of a magnate to buy the public debate and manipulate it through algorithms that amplify confusion. Spain will move forward with legislation under which technology executives will assume direct criminal liability for serious violations on their platforms. The era of hiding behind servers is over."

Below this, images of Elon Musk and Pedro Sánchez.

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By law they should all be required to have a feed without any algorithm. A strictly chronological feed.

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Do you think social media platforms should be held more accountable?

Not just that, personal accountability of oligarchs like Musk and Bezos must be fully enforced and if fines are issued be in the order of at least one years turnover.

Presently any fines issued are considered a joke behind closed doors, and rules continue to be ignored, fines are cheaper than moderation...

@BuyFromEU fuck Pedro Sanchez, censorship and authoritarian crackdown on the free internet disguised as populist rhetoric. Get in the sea
@BuyFromEU @budududuroiu and long live fascists like Elon?
@JimmyB @BuyFromEU is that what I'm saying?
@JimmyB @BuyFromEU is it, or am I inclined to believe a leader with a 26% approval rating has all the interest to appropriate genuine European concern for digital sovereignty as a guise for censoring his critics, as he moves to rule from a position of deep unpopularity?

@BuyFromEU @budududuroiu oh - of course. But the fact that the people enacting such laws aren’t popular doesn’t mean we should accept that status quo with all the harms that is bringing.

Or do you have another plan for countering the massive tide of fascist lies which pollutes everything from these platforms.

I note his point was about free speech not being the play thing of a billionaire and his algorithms. Fair point I think

@JimmyB @BuyFromEU yes, having better policies. Fascist lies you call only have weight because people are disillusioned with the current political class.

Restricting freedoms and having "approved thought" has historically always hurt the left instead of the right.

@budududuroiu @BuyFromEU the proposal is to stop Elon restricting thought he disagrees with Sounds as though you should be a big supporter

@JimmyB @BuyFromEU If Elon is such an issue, why not just ban Twitter? Do what China did and only allow European platforms that must abide by European law by jurisdiction.

The law that Sanchez makes now which you think is amazing will be used by a politically right administration to jail leftists for wrongthink.

You're either ok with that, or wilfully ignorant at the multi-decade implications legislation usually has

@budududuroiu @BuyFromEU wilfully ignorant eh? Think you may have missed how the right is already controlling non-right voices. Think I’m done here
@JimmyB @BuyFromEU Elon Musk will never go to jail over Twitter, especially not in Spain. Your anarchist Mastodon admin will. All it takes is one wrong majority in parliament for a small period of time (which is very likely in Spain given Sanchez is so wildly unpopular). Anyways, good talking to ya
@BuyFromEU banning under-16 from using any social media is INSANE, you forgot to mention that part
@BuyFromEU I think non-fedi platforms need to be abandoned.
@BuyFromEU Europe leads and other countries such as mine, Canada, needs to follow
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They really must have their feet held to the fire. The plutocrat broligarchy is not going to back down, together they own the US administration and that poses an existential threat to the EU because they’re in cahoots with Russia and any other bad-guy autocrats.
@BuyFromEU I can't find any source for this except some Instagram post.
@BuyFromEU Of course. FB and X and others are no longer social media platforms but control, indoctrination, ad-selling and misinformation mechanisms.

@BuyFromEU yes, but carefully. The road to censoring things the current heads government just don't like, regardless of the law, starts here.

But the open nature of most of those platforms means the provider cannot reliably be responsible for every single post. They must have mechanisms for user-level reporting, moderating, and blocking.

Algorithms, on the other hand, should be the responsibility of the company that creates them. What gets amplified and what gets hidden by those algorithms must be scrutinized and judged against the law. It should be intimidating and dangerous for a big company to unleash an algorithm. They should be worried about how it will change the discourse and control what is and isn't allowed to "go viral".

@jrdepriest @BuyFromEU this makes the platforms change so they are in control of what gets posted. That’s the point. Fundamental change
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@BuyFromEU Absolutely, any law breaking should see the CEO and other senior figures prosecuted and if necessary imprisoned.

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