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I have this still unspecific idea in my head about somehow applying a coordinate system on the ULB campus and #FOSDEM maps (or something) to help us deal with "let's meet at..." problems once and for all.
Feb 3 at 7:58amWeb
Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
I was asked "where are you?" countless times this FOSDEM, and its not easy to describe in a decently specific way.
Show threadJeppe Fihl-PearsonFeb 3
@bagder Perhaps a FOSDEM specific version of "what.three.words"?
Show threadHaris RazisFeb 3
@Tenzer my thoughts exactly
Show threadJeppe Fihl-PearsonFeb 3
@bagder Although, in this situation it might be nicer if the words aren't totally random for each square, so you can get a sense of how close you are to the point, by comparing your current location with your target destination.
Show threadNikita KaramovFeb 3

@Tenzer @bagder but why a FOSDEM-specific version?

what.three.words, and other geocodes, have at least 3 meter precision; wouldn't it be enough to just use those like anywhere else in the world?

Show threadRainer MüllerFeb 3
@kytta @Tenzer @bagder In addition to what3words you would at least also need the floor level when inside a building. Also GNSS do not work that well inside buildings for navigation. Something like "in front of room X" usually works way better than coordinates.
Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
@raimue @kytta @Tenzer several rooms have multiple doors and there are many hundred persons. "outside a room" is not very precise. You need to find a small enough room for that to work decently fine. Which is somewhat hard and annoying, especially if you are a newbie and aren't quite aware of this.
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Feb 3
@kytta @Tenzer @bagder just fyi about w3w . it kinda sucks ..
https://cybergibbons.com/security-2/why-what3words-is-not-suitable-for-safety-critical-applications/
https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/01/what3words_geolocation_criticism/
Show threadSir l33tnameFeb 3
@bagder do you know the map from 39c3 and similar?
Show threadRainer MüllerFeb 3
@l33tname @bagder For reference that software is https://github.com/c3nav and the map is at https://c3nav.de
c3nav

indoor navigation for chaos events. c3nav has 10 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadIvo LimmenFeb 3
@bagder I always reply: in my skin.
Show threadVissFeb 3
@bagder it would be cool if more phones had uwb. would be pretty cool to have a meshcore enabled uwb device!
Show threadferoxibFeb 3

@Tenzer @bagder
what about a WhereAreYou addition... xDD

curl -x WAY "https://me.here/location"

returning a JSON:
{
"route": [
{ "direction": "straight", "distance": "100m" },
{ "direction": "left", "distance": "20m" },
{ "direction": "straight", "distance": "10m" }
]
}

Show threadStefan EissingFeb 3

@bagder We should draw numbered grid lines across the whole planet!

I know it‘s ambitious and it‘s unclear how to cover the oceans, but the benefits would be huge!🤓

Show threadMike Fiedler, Code GardenerFeb 3
@bagder I think we need to get you an RFID tracker :)
Show threadAndreas ScherbaumFeb 3
@bagder You are where the curl stickers on the table are, duh! ;-)
Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
@ascherbaum I should just make the pile bigger to get visible better at a larger distance!
Show threadAndreas ScherbaumFeb 4
@bagder 30k stickers next year then?
Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
ok: https://github.com/bagder/FOSDEM/blob/main/meet.md
FOSDEM/meet.md at main · bagder/FOSDEM

Advice for FOSDEM attendees. Contribute to bagder/FOSDEM development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Feb 3
@bagder btw, have you considered hosting this repo on a Forgejo instance instead? @ProcoliX will probably be eager to help with that
Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
@thibaultmol @ProcoliX reasonable request, yes!
Show threadSlatianFeb 3
@bagder Do you know c3nav? https://39c3.c3nav.de/
c3nav

c3nav
Show threadBillFeb 3
@bagder maybe what3words.com?=
Show threadDaniel AppelquistFeb 3
@bagder I just always go with the waffle truck. The bonus there is : waffles! 🧇
Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
@torgo A) there are multiple trucks, B) sometimes you want to explain where you are to the person who is moving...
Show threadDr. Christopher KunzFeb 3
@bagder c3nav supports this and it's used for e.g. Chaos Communication Congress. cf https://39c3.c3nav.de/
Lifesaver.
c3nav

c3nav
Show threadRuss GarrettFeb 3

@christopherkunz @bagder and for fosdem!

https://nav.fosdem.org

c3nav

Show threadDr. Christopher KunzFeb 3
@russss @bagder Yeah, I know! With "this" I meant "a coordinate / square system". So it seems like an easy enough to implement feature for next FOSDEM.
Show threadRuss GarrettFeb 3
@christopherkunz @bagder oh a grid - I think that isn't super useful anyway. There is the c3nav share feature though
Show threadDr. Christopher KunzFeb 3
@russss @bagder Both the 39c3 and the fosdem instance have a coordinate system, 39c3 is just more vocal about it. The grid can be used for approximate location (i.e. "which hall is a specific assembly in?") so I see some value in that.
Show threadRuss GarrettFeb 3

@christopherkunz @bagder yep, but you can also use it to share a location link, e.g:

https://nav.fosdem.org/l/c:4:475.2:179.66/

c3nav

Show threadbo0tzzFeb 3
@bagder @christopherkunz there's also a fosdem instance at https://nav.fosdem.org/
c3nav

Show threadSimon ZerafaFeb 3

@bagder

Perhaps

https://www.fourkingmaps.co.uk/what/

Might have an API? 😉

Four King Maps - Fucking good maps

Show threadRichard "RichiH" HartmannFeb 3
@bagder paging @ShinIce for further discussion
Show threadShin.Ice Feb 3
@bagder @RichiH was just typing but thanks for the ping 😁🤘🏻
Show threadShin.Ice Feb 3
@bagder nav.fosdem.org was not a working option? Just asking if we could improve something 😊
Show threadmmu_manFeb 3
@ShinIce @bagder maybe just some more communication? I always forget there's this option from the CCC 🙂
Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
@mmu_man @ShinIce yeah, I think I just need to remember this better. Thanks!
Show threadShin.Ice Feb 3

@mmu_man @bagder well yeah, I take it with me as improvement for sure.

It was mentioned during the opening talk of @RichiH , we have the link on the homepage and some signage...sound to less 😅

If you have some improvement idea, please let me know and I'll take them with me 😊

Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
@ShinIce @mmu_man @RichiH I would not mind some added internal details; for example to help us mark a place within Chez Theo. Just take it as a wishlist. I appreciate the existence and functionality already.
Show threadRichard "RichiH" HartmannFeb 3
@ShinIce @mmu_man @bagder we could just print a few QR codes with "you are here" and put them in the right places
Show threaddaniel:// stenberg://Feb 3
@RichiH @ShinIce @mmu_man oh yes, that's a neat idea!
Show threadShin.Ice Feb 3

@RichiH @mmu_man @bagder have put that idea already on my list, but go9d I'm not the o my one thinking at it 😁

More ideas are welcome 😋

Show threadbo0tzzFeb 3
@RichiH @mmu_man @bagder @ShinIce maybe designating specific meeting point landmarks? We ended up using the yellow pillar uphill from the foodtrucks as a "we are here" marker a few times and it worked pretty well.
Show threadRichard "RichiH" HartmannFeb 3
@mmu_man @bagder @ShinIce @me sounds both easy and useful
Show threadBenFeb 3
Isn't that kind of the idea between what3words? No clue how well it actually works, but that's what I've read about it.