my wife said something about Epstein that is completely correct:

it isn't that he's the epicentre of everything bad in the world. it's that he's the only rich fucker's texts we're being allowed to read.

all of the world's billionaires are, evidently, in a death-rape-cult.

@AmyZenunim I just remember that news story a few years ago about the tech CEO group chats where they all radicalized each other in the early 2020s. I'm sure every single CEO's texts is like this.
@AmyZenunim @chu Damn, that’s really dark, but it’s gotta be true.

@AmyZenunim

What I want to see - and I do think it will happen - is 'whole theft'. Where a billionaire gets a panicked call from a minion, saying "What are you doing to the accounts?"
And they log in, and discover that almost all their liquid assets have been stolen, away into thousands of anonymous accounts, and every single safeguard and bank fail-safe was bypassed or satisfied.
It's completely doable in the modern world.
Then it needs to happen again, repeatedly.

@AmyZenunim I agree the billionaire class are all intertwined with this mess, but I have a problem with turning them into an omnipotent conspiracy (not saying you're doing that).

There's a real conspiracy here, with evidence and paper trails. A vile trafficking and blackmail ring, connected with intelligence and the radical right wing politics (& many 'elite' 'liberals'). It's not omnipotent, it's a real thing, with names and dates, that we can fight. Don't let them blame human nature.

@BoysenberryCider @AmyZenunim Yes, what makes these all so shocking is that it goes totally against "human nature" as most of us experience it in our daily lives.

The only way I'm understanding it right now is that to become a billionaire, you have to believe that every other human being on earth is meant to be your property, and your only path to (happiness? fulfillment? whatever they seek) is to completely dominate as many people as you can.

That's not what I believe or feel, and I don't think it is for most people. But if that IS your mentality, it's a short trip to all the monstrous words and deeds we see in the Epstein files.

@BoysenberryCider @AmyZenunim @lauerhahn I'm inclined to agree. There are people in the world who get very rich from inheritance, luck, whatever, and who decide that'll do - they retire or they start giving it away or whatever. They don't make the extra effort/pursue the extra avarice required to become a billionaire.

And I think those who do become billionaires do so because they really are the worst people. It's not possible to become a billionaire without actively trying to make the world a worse place for your own ends. Most people, even with all the opportunity, simply wouldn't be that much of a shit.

@BoysenberryCider @AmyZenunim @lauerhahn @RolloTreadway when you are a multi-millionaire with 10 or 15Mio worth, you can have a very comfortable life without ever working for money again, including some rich peoples hobbies. No 150m yacht. No Learjet. But very comfortable.

I think, on the way to "superrich" there must be a greed to keep going. While a lot of money pours in with interest and casino money, there is some action to keep maximizing on all that. Motivated by greed and small dicks.

@BoysenberryCider @AmyZenunim @lauerhahn @RolloTreadway so I am pretty shure, to enter the circle of superrich (i.e. > 100Mio ) you need to have some sociopathic traits, to get there. One of that might be to consume humans for sex entertainment. There might be other disgusting things.
@AmyZenunim And a very sizable number of millionaires, too!

@AmyZenunim what is it again? Absolute power (and a fuck-load of money) corrupts absolutely

They probably (maybe?) aren't all in the rape/death cult but they all align towards evil

@DyingWorld @AmyZenunim
To say power corrupts is reductive.
Thing is, the people who go out of their way to get power no man should have and then fight to keep that power just pre-select for corrupt people.
There are no good billionaires, not because being a billionaire rots your soul or something, but because becoming a billionaire and maintaining that status requires a rotten soul delving deeper into rot.

@AmyZenunim @inthehands yep - I said to my wife Epstein is not a cause, but a symptom. He wouldn't have existed in this form if it wasn't because the billionaires already do what they do.

I suspect he was found and elevated from normal everyday life to be a useful patsy because he displayed all the qualities and behaviours they needed in someone to do that dirty work.

@tanepiper @AmyZenunim @inthehands
I feel like the idea that he was selected and elevated as a scapegoat is a bit of an unnecessary suspicion. He was one of the rich fucks. He was fucked up, because the rich fucks are fucked up. He got along with rich fucks, because rich fucks are fucked up.
I have no doubt him being as he was played into his level of success, but I doubt there being an organised conspiracy to elevate him and throw him under the bus from the start. He did get turned into a scape goat, but that's kinda after things started going sour.
@flesh @AmyZenunim @inthehands oh absolutely, not a concerted effort - I am in no doubt he absolutely rose to the occasion and as we're seeing - the receipt were kept. Not one of these billionaires imagined they would be connected with him, and maybe that's why they saw him as useful - someone partly in the shadows who they thought no one would suspect.

@AmyZenunim @inthehands @tanepiper

The one person who would know every twist and turn in this sordid murky evil world is of course Ghilaine Maxwell. If too many international high profile ppl feel threatened - incl Trump and his cronies - don't be surprised if she goes over a balcony.

@AmyZenunim let's all remember 2012 - 2020 and the tale of the liberal, child porn, groomer reptilians led by Hillary and Obama.. what happened to that now??? Please ask the fascists in between headblows
@AmyZenunim yeah exactly. do you believe that this one man was the only procurer of depraved pleasures for the ruling class? I sure don't
He may have been the biggest one. I’m sure he’s been replaced now. @AmyZenunim @mxchara
@AmyZenunim even that guy who runs chik-filla?
@AmyZenunim Or at the very least attempting to join the sex cult and failing (cf. Elon)
@AmyZenunim so you say Eyes Wide Shut was actually a documentary? 🤔
Yeah, an extremely boring documentary about a self-entitled idiot.

Who ever thinks that movie is some kind of a conspiratorial reveal, never watched it.

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@AmyZenunim there's also the half-uncovered paedophile rape/murder ring that existed in the British parliament in the 70s/80s and presumably extended far beyond them. Wealth brings power, power corrupts, and corruption manifests in sadly predictable ways.
@AmyZenunim Gabe Newell might be the only acception to bad billionaires. I don't know him personally of course, but he has about the only decent reputation of the top 1% people out there.
@AmyZenunim I am a horror movie fan. I thought "Hostel" was a very good movie, but I could never watch it again, b/c I thought it was too absurdly brutal and a deeply disturbing fantasy. Turns out, it was not a fantasy at all. The top 10% richest really have no better idea than to spend their wealth on sadistic rape, torture & murder games.
@AmyZenunim power of power :/
@AmyZenunim Well, yeah, they're the 1%. People keep trying to humanise them for some reason.

@megatronicthronbanks @AmyZenunim

In the UK, being in the 1% means having a net worth of £3.5M or more. A billionaire has at least 285 times that much, typically a thousand times that much. There are 156 billionaires in the UK, from a population of about 70M.

They're not the 1%, they're the 0.0002%.

@AmyZenunim

It's not good to generalize people or label people according to prejudgements, that's exactly what the Far-Right does.
Let's be different. Let's use our critical thinking.

@hadon @AmyZenunim

And yet you have a "boycott USA" hashtag in your profile. Curious. 🤔🤔

@hadon @AmyZenunim

I judge rich people uniformily because of their bullshit in latin America, in Nazi Germany, in the early industrial period, in monarchist france and Russia.

I could go on