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Tuta

Once again, the buy #European is trending. What are your favorite European brands? 🇪🇺

In our latest guide, we take a look at the best European products you can use 👉️ https://tuta.com/blog/boycott-us-choose-european-products

#BuyEuropean #PrivacyFirst #GDPR #DigitalSovereignty #PrivacyTech

Jan 19 at 10:24amWeb
Show threadBrianJan 19
@Tutanota @roc_collective
Show threadcrossgolf_rebel - kostenlose KwalitätspostsJan 19
@Tutanota könntet ihr das Mastodon Logo bitte noch gegen das Netzwerklogo austauschen?
Ich folge euch, ich benutze aber dazu kein Mastodon, wie übrigens auch 50% des Fediverse nicht
Show threadPixelcode 🇺🇦Jan 19
@crossgolf_rebel @Tutanota Nun, es geht ja speziell darum, dass Mastodon aus Europa stammt (konkret Deutschland), was man über das Fediverse allgemein nicht sagen kann. Insofern finde ich das Mastodon-Logo hier nicht ganz verkehrt 🤷
Show threadcrossgolf_rebel - kostenlose KwalitätspostsJan 19
@pixelcode Das ist jetzt Ansichtssache.

@Tutanota und du posten mit der Software Mastodon in das Netzwerk Fediverse.
Ohne dieses Netzwerk, gäbe es Mastodon gar nicht. Und, man kann dieses Anwendungssoftware nicht ohne das Netzwerk betrachten.

Mal ganz zu schweigen, das auch viele andere Projekte mit "Deutscher" Beteiligung programmiert werden.

Und, so deutsch ist Mastodon dann auch wieder nicht, weil es auf dem Protokoll ActivityPub beruht, das auch wieder aus der Community und International ist.

Ohne das Protokoll ActivityPub gäbe es zwar das Fediverse, wohl aber kein Mastodon in diesem 😉

Es ist eben die Frage, greift man sich nur den Teil eines ganzen Netzwerkes raus, der von DEUTSCHEN stammt, wird es ganz schnell dunkel,

Mehr dazu findest du hier: https://gnulinux.ch/die-unvollstaendige-geschichte-des-fediverse
Die unvollständige Geschichte des Fediverse

Gestern lief eine Aufstellung der "historischen" Schritte, die zum Entstehen des Fediverse geführt haben, durch meine Timeline. Lest selbst, wie es sich in den letzten 15 Jahren entwickelt hat.

GNU/Linux.ch
Show threadKaitoJan 19
@Tutanota Once again it's not about being European. It's about enabling freedoms. If one day Europe enshittifies software there as well, people are going to move.
Show threadAron LindegårdJan 20
@kaito02 @Tutanota for the most part yes. But it's also about tech in countries that have laws that are actually enforced, and for the most part don't celebrate oligarchy.
Show threadjerJan 19
@Tutanota #woolpower obvs
Show threadDanish AkhtarJan 19
@Tutanota Nothing Company. I am currently writing this post from my Nothing Phone 2 (a).
Show threadJustEnoughDucksJan 19

@danish_akhtar7 @Tutanota except they they are pretty much not European. It is a Chinese company with American investors that designs the electronics and housing in china, builds the devices in china, program the firmware in China, and program the software in China. All of the technical job openings in China.

The CEO worked in the Chinese phone industry for 15 years and started a Chinese company.

They have a marketing HQ in the UK to dodge EU taxes and claim that they are a "European company"

Show threadDanish AkhtarJan 19
@justenoughducks @Tutanota I am from India, and I bought my Nothing Phone, which was also manufactured in India. They have plants in India as well as in China. By the way, Carl Pei is proud that their product is "Designed in London." 🙂
Show threadJustEnoughDucksJan 19

@danish_akhtar7 @Tutanota it is interesting that he said that while there have been near zero technical jobs in London until the last year or so with a bit of software and product design (still 0 electronics)

But I guess he has a history of misleading at OnePlus like when he said "they are a small startup" without resources of the big names, while being a literal subsidy of the largest phone electronics producer in the world, with all of their resources and contacts.

Show threadMolly in MissouriJan 19
@danish_akhtar7 @Tutanota anything that deprives the status quo of status is an improvement, as we work towards a world free of capitalists. Though i would question the motives since most products are ultimately just another grift.
Show threadEmilio ʕ̡̢̡ʘ̅͟͜͡ʘ̲̅ʔ̢̡̢🇩🇰Jan 19
@Tutanota tuta
Show threadjanneJan 19
@Tutanota or people can go to https://european-alternatives.eu/ to avoid single brand view
European Alternatives

We help you find European alternatives for digital service and products, like cloud services and SaaS products.

European Alternatives
Show threadBart Veldhuizen 🚀Jan 19
@Tutanota Thanks for the extensive and in depth overview, this really helps 🤦‍♂️ For anyone who wants an unbiased list of alternatives, try https://www.goeuropean.org/ or https://european-alternatives.eu/
Show threaddunesecJan 19
@BartV @Tutanota GoEuropean was great when the project started, lots of passionate people with ideas. Sadly, it's no longer in development. I agree with you though, Tuta should refrain from making biased lists. I can understand their motives, but I think it's harmful to their brand. Instead, Tuta should focus and promote its own products and USP's.
Show threadTizian 「ティツィアーン」Jan 19

@Tutanota As long as it is open-source and the business model does not contradict, it does not really matter where the team is located that develops the code:

Therefore, GrapheneOS is a (I might say, the only) viable alternative mobile operating system. /e/OS' security standards seem to be lacking in some regards while SailfishOS, to my knowledge, is not open source.

My pain point still is the dependency on Google Pixel phones due to hardware requirements. I had hopes for @fairphone working towards this, but it seems it has currently (if at all) no priorioty.

Show threadMahdi 🍵Jan 19
@Tutanota I do like Surfshark for VPN. I didn't even know it was from Netherlands until I recently looked it up. I was about to switch, but I guess I'm good on that one.
Show threadCpt_KikiJan 19
@Tutanota vivaldi, proton, mullvad, filen Among other things, I've never tried anything from Tuta :( maybe in the future...
Show threadDigitalDiggerJan 19
@Tutanota As far as I know Qwant and Ecosia rely on US big tech companies for their results so it's useless. On the other hand, @Mojeek is European and truly independent
Show threadViacheslav AJan 19
@Tutanota yeah, I get it, the main goal of these posts is marketing, but only one option for calendar and email, and from the very first party that produces them, well, thats just weird and off putting imo.
Show threadYmarmashJan 19

@Tutanota your competitor Proton is also a good alternative. Punkt is the best alternative to iOS and degoogled android. Incidentally Punkt also supports Proton by default.

What the EU needs is an equivalent to Apple Health / Google Fit, which integrates with Oura, Polar, Suunto, Withings, Yazio, Awareapp etc. etc.

Can they all cooperate to form this cloud data storage, protected by EU privacy, supported by subscription?

Show threadCVE-security&privacyJan 19
@ymarmash @Tutanota punkt is the worst recomendation ever the os is subscription based they lack basic privacy/security this is pure bad info.
Show threadYmarmashJan 19
@LearnToLivePrivate @Tutanota hi Micheal, not sure about the claim of lack of basic privacy/security - seems like the vault feature is good.. or am I being deceived? Yes subscription isn’t ideal, but if that means that there is proper support to the OS I am okay with it.
Show threadCVE-security&privacyJan 19
@ymarmash @Tutanota biggest ⛳ look at there last os update release for security second on privacy if you have to login well it says it all
Show threadCVE-security&privacyJan 19
@ymarmash @Tutanota this can go long but im hoping those will have you researching a bit more I really dont recommend using that phone or os
Show threadCVE-security&privacyJan 19
@ymarmash @Tutanota you dont have to take my word just dig a little deeper.
Show threadYmarmashJan 22
@LearnToLivePrivate @Tutanota thanks Natalie, did some DD and it turns out you’re right to flag it.
Show threadCVE-security&privacyJan 22
@ymarmash @Tutanota No worry's!
Show threadCVE-security&privacyJan 22
@ymarmash @Tutanota I recommend looking at @GrapheneOS I couldnt in good faith currently recommend any other os as of now!
Show threadYmarmashJan 22
@LearnToLivePrivate @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I understand and would typically agree, it just needs google pixels in order to operate, so it’s American hardware again. I’m leaning towards the Jolla phones but the lack of banking apps natively on th Linux based OS is not ideal or convenient. Oh well. I hope things will take a turn for European tech sovereignty soon.
Show threadCVE-security&privacyJan 22
@ymarmash @Tutanota @GrapheneOS your taking the wrong approach jolla is no better then punkt and every single one of those connects to google in more ways by default then graphene and they usually use microG which is usually given deep os permissions these are areas you already dont control and avoiding US is impossible as well beleive it or not your approach is backwards as much as you want to avoid google hardware and the US, parts of all phones are US big tech.
Show threadMolly in MissouriJan 19
@Tutanota full boycott of capitalism is the only correct approach-- or do some people really think some capitalists are special and not prone to doing exactly what maga capitalists are doing now, because they've been allowed to get away with it? Genuinely curious if supporting capitalists seems to some minds to be a great way to deprive capitalists of power.
Show threadEnea LecasJan 19
@Tutanota can't say that it is my favorite yet, but I pre-ordered a Jolla Phone. Hopefully it will be.
Show threadonlydevJan 19
@Tutanota I was using some apps and like it, but i'm not EU
Show threadCVE-security&privacyJan 19
@Tutanota the amount of unsafe info in the comments is wild.
Show threadFoxleJan 19
@Tutanota
Ich vermisse Proton!
Show threadJoureiJan 19
@Tutanota Fiskars, definitely. Makes fantastic kitchen and garden tools.
Show threadHenrik HemrinJan 19
@Tutanota For smartphones and smartphone OS, I suggest to add Iodé operating system from France to your list, where you also can buy smartphones with Iodé OS. @iode https://iode.tech/
iodé

Be Smarter Than Your Phone

iodé
Show threadTutaJan 19
@hehemrin Thanks! We will check these out.
Show threadHenrik HemrinJan 20
@Tutanota
One more phone comment: Volla phone and Volla OS are not mentioned in the article, only in a referenced article.
Show threadDanielJan 19
@Tutanota Tuta, Mastodon, and Mullvad @mullvadnet doing god's work
Show threadMoppedijkJan 19
@Tutanota I use Ecosia for a while now and it works pretty smooth 👍
Show threadMattyWS Jan 19

@Tutanota Protonmail is probably my favourite so far, they're doing a great job at replacing googlemail, with others services included like password manager, calendar and now docs/sheets in their protondrive!

I just wish they'd be faster at pushing out linux apps and integration, especially for protondrive. I want to sync files on my desktop!

Show thread�Jan 19
@Tutanota SUSE
Show threadar_doJan 19
@Tutanota Mastadon, obviously ;-P
Show threadJ_PeregrineJan 19
@Tutanota
Can any of these work on an apple m3 ?
Show threadJ_PeregrineJan 19
@Tutanota
I an considering using duck duck go
Show threadSamuelJohnsonJan 19
@Tutanota Missing: Ghost.
Show threadCyberSecurity CatJan 20

@[email protected]

The EU is STILL trying to do #ChatControl

Maybe talk about that as your number 1 priority

Show threadRebel ZhangJan 20

@Tutanota

@GrapheneOS Tuta is mentioning /e/ again, now it's time to re-state your viewpoint.

Show threadRebel ZhangJan 20
@Tutanota Vivaldi is the fucking proprietary malware that is unethical and unjust, and should be boycotted and should never be used.
Show threadOkunaJan 20
@rebel1725 @Tutanota any proof that they are “malware”?
Show threadRebel ZhangJan 20
@Okuna @Tutanota https://vivaldi.com/privacy/vivaldi-end-user-license-agreement/
Vivaldi End User License Agreement | Vivaldi Browser

Read the end user license agreement for the Vivaldi browser and find out how to get in touch if you have any questions about regarding our EULA.

Vivaldi Browser
Show threadAunisienJan 21
@rebel1725 @Tutanota Can you explain ?
Show threadRebel ZhangJan 21
@aunisien @Tutanota Obvious: https://vivaldi.com/privacy/vivaldi-end-user-license-agreement/
Vivaldi End User License Agreement | Vivaldi Browser

Read the end user license agreement for the Vivaldi browser and find out how to get in touch if you have any questions about regarding our EULA.

Vivaldi Browser
Show threadGrapheneOSJan 20

@Tutanota You're recommending people use phones and operating systems without basic privacy and security patches/protections while claiming those are good for privacy. Fairphone, Murena and Jolla are not safe options. To promote their products, both Murena and Jolla heavily mislead people with inaccurate claims about what they provide and about multiple more private/secure options. People buying their products don't get crucial patches but are led to believe they do...

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private

Devices lacking standard privacy/security patches and protections aren't private - GrapheneOS Discussion Forum

GrapheneOS discussion forum

GrapheneOS Discussion Forum
Show threadtkissingJan 20
@GrapheneOS @Tutanota So, is there an option that gives good privacy, good security and "US-Free" hardware?