Farm GothJan 8
Ninji
"consumers aren't buying based on AI” is demonstrably untrue, because i am a consumer, and i buy based on AI. i see a product uses AI and i choose something else
Jan 8 at 4:36pmWeb
Show threadDaniele Pantaleo 🦥Jan 8

@Ninji if even Dell says it's a fad...

https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows-laptops/dell-reveals-people-dont-care-about-ai-in-pcs-and-a-new-truly-embarrassing-windows-11-fail-shows-why

Dell reveals people don't care about AI in PCs – and a new truly embarrassing Windows 11 fail shows why

Dell says people are 'not buying PCs based on AI' – just as a cringeworthy AI agent fail pops up with terrible timing for Microsoft.

TechRadar
Show threadPOWER Zoey G5Jan 8

@ozone89 @Ninji Living in Austin I know a shit load of ppl who worked for Dell. Everyone got laid off, they bet the farm on AI, and it took precisely one financial year for them to realize, “well, maybe this isn’t such a good idea after all…” Everyone who exited knew this would happen.

And these are THE GUYS who supply server racks and blades to datacenters. This is the single largest OEM in America (maybe Lenovo is bigger?) saying “AI should not be the core of our consumer OEM business”.

Show threadRupert ReynoldsJan 8

@power_zoey_g5 @ozone89 @Ninji And yet I saw 2 online ads for a Dell "AI PC" which showed a laptop. What's the point in running an LLM on a laptop?!

I guess they have spare stock to sell :-)

Show threadPup Shadow 🏡🔜ChicagoJan 8
@Ninji same here, ensuring a product is LLM-free is a major part of my product purchase decision making process these days.
Show threadPinkJan 8
@Ninji stop! You’re confusing the poor executives with your complex product requirements!
Show threadTom JoadJan 8
@Ninji
I get them all day. I answer "Spam! How ya doin'?" They usually hang up right there.
Show threadGavinJan 8

@Ninji "consumers aren't buying, based on AI"

The comma might be tiny, but it's also powerful, and can invert the meaning of a sentence so easily.

Show threadFrancisca SinnJan 8
@Ninji +1
Show threadМя ��Jan 8
@Ninji fun fact when I first read that quote I thought it means literally this. Like, consumers see AI, and they are not gonna buy
Show threadFediThing Jan 8

@Ninji

It tells you the manufacturer is a charlatan, useful info 😁

Show threadTanquistJan 8
@Ninji
I will never buy a computer with a copilot key. FYI there are tons of super awesome used & refurbished pre-AI computers out there at pretty decent prices.
Show threadserklarvelJan 8
@Ninji me too! I avoid any product that has AI in it
Show threadKnud JahnkeJan 8

@Ninji

That's my general stance: if someone uses AI, I'm no longer interested, because obviously the real product seems not good enough for them to show/describe.

Also I assume that most of what's described is a lie.

Show threadKnud JahnkeJan 8

@Ninji

That's my general stance: if someone uses AI, I'm no longer interested, because obviously the real product seems not good enough for them to show/describe.

Also I assume that most of what's described is a lie.

Show threadGodfrey642Jan 8

@Ninji

Im going to have to get a new Android soon and want one without AI.
What are the chances ????

Show threadSibrosanJan 8

@Godfrey642 @Ninji

Are you thinking of getting an Android that doesn't Dream of Electric Sheep?

Show threadGodfrey642Jan 8

@sibrosan @Ninji

Id consider anything that doesn't have AI. 🤪

Show threadAmin GirasolJan 9

@Godfrey642 @murena is the Murena phone available in Australia?

https://murena.com/about/

About Murena

We design smartphones and cloud services that put user's privacy first.

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Show threadMurena - choose freedom!Jan 9
@fluidlogic @Godfrey642 Hello, thank you for your interest in our products! Most of our smartphones are available in Australia. Simply go to https://murena.com/products/smartphones/ and select your country in the upper-right corner. You can order the products that appear in the store. Have a great weekend! The Murena team
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Show threadC.S.StrowbridgeJan 8

@Ninji

I saw a study here recently where only 5% of people would pay extra for AI while nearly 70% would at least seriously consider dropping a product if it had AI they couldn't turn off.

Show threadCM ThiedeJan 9
@csstrowbridge @Ninji Sounds about right, the 1% with the majority of the wealth in the world are all in. Stands to reason those closest to them would want to ride their coattails.
Show thread🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳Jan 9
@csstrowbridge @Ninji
i saw a survey on yougov last month that showed more people said they would pay extra for a version of something without AI, than said they would pay extra to have it added.
Show threadcaneToad Jan 8

@Ninji Ex 20+ years Windows MCSE here.

I dropped out and deleted my account in 2025 because of the following:

-Windows 11 enforcing Microsoft accounts over local
- Copilot
- Recall
- Microsoft 365 subscription scheme
- Automatic saving of user data on OneDrive

- and for fucking around w/ Group Policy to enforce settings deliberately removed to customer preferences. Bloody Bastards!

I'm completely pissed off, and gone for good. Deleted all M$ s/w, no M$ subscriptions. After completion, any Windows machines turned into Linux with LibreOffice and other FOSS s/w (working like a charm), and M$ completely blocked in my home network via DNS.

Thank god I don't have to work with M$ anymore, so the above could easily be achieved. I am aware that not everyone can jump ship, but I pity you.

Show threadM SchommerJan 8

@Ninji @alice
But then… you are… *boycotting* on "AI", aren't you?

(Well, at least that's what I'm doing ;)

Show threadGreatLakeTroutJan 8

@Ninji

I share concerns over Microsoft’s integration of copilot into their computers. As an enterprise network administrator there are serious security implications. At the same time I am a robust user of AI and it has greatly improved many of my workflows. What I am against is stuffing AI into every consumer appliance and telling people it is no big deal. I want to choose when and how I use AI and I don’t want my tv to start the computer uprising.

Show threadDervishJan 8
@Ninji AI can be used to provide lots of useful tools. None of them are tools I want, especially with the current surveillance society, thanks.
Show threadRupert ReynoldsJan 8
@Ninji Me as well.
Show threadchristina | twyn!bJan 9
@Ninji i mean, it is correct that customers *aren't buying* based on AI, then :D
Show threadFrank GrießhammerJan 9
@Ninji @jenskutilek https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/s/tPYxzIPTlt
Show threadFrank GrießhammerJan 9
@Ninji @jenskutilek Reminded me of the classic “What does a screen protector have to do with AI?”
Show threadLiberty and Justice For AllJan 9

@Ninji went to update to newest macOS tonight until all the features of the update were ai garbage.

No thank you. I just want my laptop to work how it didn when I purchased it

Show threadKevin Karhan Jan 10

@Ninji +9001%

Every device advertised with "#AI" od having a "#CopilotKey" gets instantly put on the "never ever buy!"-List…

You know what I want instead?

Show threadKerplunkJan 10

@kkarhan @Ninji

Every device advertised with "#AI" od having a "#CopilotKey" gets instantly put on the "never ever buy!"-List…

You know what I want instead?

#Linux support - and I mean fully!
#Keyboards with
#Trackpoints!
#RepairableTech
instead of AntiRepairDesign!

Me too
Which is why I have a second hand business think pad, I5 processor 8GB Ram, antiX linux great performance.

And tough.

Show threadKevin Karhan Jan 10

@Kerplunk @Ninji granted, #ThinkPads get #enshittified too.

  • The latest generation #Trackpoint is so shallow that it's physically painful to use, making it pointless.
Show threadKerplunkJan 10

@kkarhan @Ninji

@Kerplunk @Ninji granted, #ThinkPads get #enshittified too.

The latest generation #Trackpoint is so shallow that it's physically painful to use, making it pointless.

i have not found it painful, but badly done for sure.

Lenovo has also shown a new model without the feature, not sure how that will go down with business users.

Personally I am not in the market for a new Thinkpad, still plenty of good second hand options available.

Show threadKevin Karhan Jan 10
@Kerplunk @Ninji needless to say relying on the #UsedMarket is not sustainable and in many places not even an option… (video via #LowSpecGamer)
What YouTubers get WRONG about used PC parts

YouTube
Show threadTuchowskiJan 10
@Ninji @bjo 😁👍🏾
Show threadColinJan 10
@Ninji @creideiki they can’t make line go up for their trillions spent on AI tho with that!
Show threadUddelhexeJan 20
@Ninji
Same.
Hard same.