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@Voxelpower But if you want European choice here then the Pixel with GOS doesn't really bring anything to the table. Of course still great choice for journalist and opposition activist! But for average Joe, there are privacy friendly options, which can even be fully Google free as they aren't even android based.

I also have problem a little bit how GOS people communicates. This has been demonstrated well in video: https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0

Why I deleted GrapheneOS

YouTube

https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1950568612600619319#m

Voxelpower Jan 9

@Antti98

> "But for average Joe, there are privacy friendly options, which can even be fully Google free as they aren't even android based"

GrapheneOS is the only custom OS that does not weaken or eliminate the security of AOSP, but actually significantly improves it. It is also the only custom OS that does not delay security updates for weeks or months. Any custom operating systems that are not based on Android (e.g., Sailfish OS) lack basic security mechanisms such as modern exploit mitigations, memory-safe languages, reasonable sandboxing and permissions systems, strict MAC policies, etc.

This means they also lack the ability to protect users' privacy from malicious third parties.

The majority of GrapheneOS users are ordinary people, not opposition figures or journalists, so it is false to claim that GOS is only for such people.

And btw, the Linux kernel contains a lot of code from Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Red Hat, etc. Using Linux kernel-based OSes are not “fully Google free”.

> "I also have problem a little bit how GOS people communicates. This has been demonstrated well in video: https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0"

Louis Rossman often spreads fake news about GrapheneOS (e.g., he once said somewhere that GOS was dead and wouldn't be updating to Android 16, but a few days later, GOS was released with Android 16).

See also information from GrapheneOS about Rossmann and the video:

Louis Rossmann also has a verified account on KiwiFarms, one of the largest neo-Nazi, hate, and troll platforms:

https://kiwifarms.st/members/larossmann.132201/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Harassment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Christchurch_mosque_shootings

You can also see that he posts there regularly (the last time was this Wednesday, for example).

And that he specifically seeks out friendships with people who regularly attack GrapheneOS on KiwiFarms.

@Voxelpower I didn't claim GOS isn't safe or anything → full lecture why it is only safe solution. Can other OS be broken easier? I bet, but on other hand how many normal Joe will ever experience that 3rd party will target your device specifically?

Difference between android and linux is that linux would still exists and develop without G. But G has full control over AOSP. They can end it any day if they want. 1/3

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private

Voxelpower Jan 9

@Antti98

> "but on other hand how many normal Joe will ever experience that 3rd party will target your device specifically?"

> "Didn't claim that average Joe couldn't use GOS, just that it makes most sense for those that probably face direct 3rd party attacks"

> "Some alternatives are in my opinion good enough from privacy perspective to average Joe who's main privacy thread is Google/Meta/Microsoft"

You don't have to specifically target the device. Some time ago, the developer of the Smarttube app (a privacy-friendly YouTube client) was hacked, and malicious builds of the app were released and distributed. Since Android has a robust sandboxing and permissions model, the damage was largely minimized.

The incident is a good example of how important sandboxing and the OS security model are. Just imagine if the app had also been available for Linux (including SailfishOS) or Windows – the damage would have been enormous.
It is also a good example of how a trustworthy app became a threat. This can happen with other apps at any time.

> "I don't know how chatting about phone OS turns into speaking about neo-Nazis without relating at all to those OSs?"

You were the one who linked Rossmann's video; I just pointed out that he is not a reputable source and that you shouldn't believe anything he says. If you want to know more, ask @GrapheneOS yourself.

Here's my take on it (my private Opinion):

I've been reading GrapheneOS posts (on X and Mastodon) almost daily for almost a year now, and I've never noticed any toxic communication on the part of GrapheneOS. All they do is publish technically accurate information (which often overlaps with other Android security researchers).

> "[...] with GOS (Google developed OS with different clothes and nicer seams) [...]"

This statement is incorrect. It is based on the AOSP (like LineageOS, IodeOS, etc.) but significantly improves the security of the AOSP. No GOS developer is affiliated with Google in any way.

> “doesn't contribute anything to the table if we are looking at European alternatives”

These so-called “European alternatives” all have far worse security than Pixels or iPhones. In the case of Fairphone, for example, GrapheneOS and Tavi (Android security researcher and former developer of DivestOS) have already written something:

https://forum.fairphone.com/t/is-fairphone-really-interested-in-sustainability/99302/2

> “[...] but why bash every other alternative just to prove your superiority?”

It's not about showing that they are “superior.” It's about providing technically accurate information, refuting false claims made by various companies and organizations (some of which attack GrapheneOS), and defending themselves from those attacks.

If there were a smartphone OS with reasonable security (modern exploit mitigations, memory-safe languages, robust sandboxing and permissions systems, strict MAC policies) and timely security updates, they would recommend it.

Devices lacking standard privacy/security patches and protections aren't private - GrapheneOS Discussion Forum

GrapheneOS discussion forum

GrapheneOS Discussion Forum

@Voxelpower "You don't have to specifically target the device." definitely true, but you also straight can download malware from play store. Any app can be targeted and I don't want to downplay sandbox importance. But for example in Sailfish if that would have been android app, it would have only operated inside container. If the app would have been native it would have operated inside firejail sandbox. Probably not as good as with GOS but it isn't like there isn't any safety features. 1/n

Voxelpower Jan 11

@Antti98

> "If the app would have been native it would have operated inside firejail sandbox. Probably not as good as with GOS but it isn't like there isn't any safety features"

Firejail does not even come close to offering the same robustness as the AOSP sandbox (GrapheneOS improves on this even further).

That's the problem when you try to bring the security model of desktop Linux systems to smartphones—you significantly worsen the current situation.

> “But immediately going for neo-Nazis is extreme imo”

I'm not saying that Rossman is a neo-Nazi, but he is active on a platform that includes such people and is known for organizing and carrying out organized trolling and doxxing campaigns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms).

He also spreads falsehoods about GOS (he once said somewhere that GOS was dead and would not upgrade to Android 16, but a few days later, GOS was on Android 16).

> “ [...] and they spammed 14! messages”

That's what happens when you want to write detailed explanations and technical information and have a character limit of 500 per post. I would also had to split my posts into at least 7 smaller posts. That's more Mastodon's fault.

> “Didn't claim that some European project is superior”

The problem is that they are worse alternatives than Pixels, iPhones, and even current Samsung smartphones, but contrary to technical reality, they present themselves as better. If they met industry standards and offered long support periods (and didn't use EoL Hardware or cheap Chinese MediaTeks), that would already be better than their current status.

> “This is copy paste from GOS :D”

No, it's not.

> “But to be honest, if they were as good as they claim, they wouldn't participate in conversations so toxically.”

As I said, I don't see any toxic communication. I don't consider setting the record straight, adding Information to the discussion, defending against false claims and exposing them, to be toxic communication.

> “Ps. How can you write such long messages? I have a limit of 500 characters. It might be clearer to answer with one post, but I haven't figured that out yet.”

That's the standard on Mastodon. You can only increase it with a specially patched instance.

Kiwi Farms - Wikipedia

@Voxelpower "Firejail does not even come close..." That is probably right, but as I meant it was more like there are still safety features which might be enough for some users. If biggest thread is that Google etc. mine your data.

"....but he is active on a platform..." I didn't know this before hand and it was good that you brought this up! My only point with his video was the screenshots of GOS communication. Which in my mind is off when they are talking to people (that are not Rossman) 1/n

@Voxelpower "He also spreads falsehoods about GOS" That can be and good to be brought up! But at least to my understanding the screenshots were real and not fake? Of course guy generally might not be legit.

"....write detailed explanations and technical information..." Problem was that they didn't talk about tech stuff. They just claimed I harass them, spread false facts about them and attack them in multiple fronts. Imo didn't relate at all to stuff you and me talked 2/n

@Voxelpower continuation... In my mind that just demonstrated the problem I was referring. I didn't talk at all about tech stuff, and said that they are probably the safest option out there. But when I gave a smallest possible criticism about their communication style, they went full rampage imo. For example I think you communicate very well, stick to the facts, no random accusations, no black-washing, you aren't trying to negotiate that if I delete my post you would delete your 2,5/n

@Voxelpower "they present themselves as better" I haven't seen that but I don't say that hasn't happened somewhere. I think they don't generally over sell or claim to be on bar or more secure than AOSP or GOS. They generally focus on privacy side imo. Not so much on security. I think that if they don't start from somewhere, how could they ever get on bar with trillion dollar companies 3/n

@Voxelpower " I don't consider setting the record straight, adding Information to the discussion, defending against false claims and exposing them..." Thing is me neither. But as I experienced now first hand this wasn't the case. They only blamed me from different things and attacking them. And when my comment was "I also have problem a little bit how GOS people communicates" it is a little tough one to bite that their communication wasn't toxic, at least in my case. 4/n

@Voxelpower And for some reason they also attacked Sailfish and Jolla quite verbally. When I don't have any relationship with Jolla or Sailfish. I know their project also (as I know GOS) and think it is great that there is independent European project. But for some reason they started to threaten me and Jolla that they will do bad block post about Sailfish if I don't delete all my comments about GOS. Which was random and imo toxic way to communicate. 4.5/n

@Voxelpower "That's the standard on Mastodon. You can only increase it with a specially patched instance." any tips how to use that kind of instance? Would keep conversation much easier to follow.

@Voxelpower "shouldn't believe anything he says" I sure did link the video. Don't know how reputable source anyone in the internet is. But if someone shows screenshots (which clearly weren't even faked) I am quite certain that those conversations happened. And saying that he threatened someones life with that YT comment is crazy without thinking any other relation him and GOS have. If he is not so good source it is okay to point that out. But immediately going for neo-Nazis is extreme imo 2/n

@Voxelpower "I've never noticed any toxic communication on the part of GrapheneOS" very surprising as I haven't even said any bad thing about them and they spammed 14! messages. That is crazy in every sense xD My only negative comment was that I don't personally like how they communicate and then they demonstrated it exactly what I meant. And I don't know how factual based or constructive those messages were..... And those kind of rants aren't rare what I have seen. 3/n

@Voxelpower "This statement is incorrect" just to be clear, the comment meant GOS is android fork and android is fully Google project from the start to this day. Didn't claim GOS is Google product as is. And at least my understanding is that Google can determine how open AOSP is (or isn't). Linux will live without Google, if Google want AOSP won't. This at least how I have understood it, I can of course be wrong also. 4/n

@Voxelpower "These so-called “European alternatives” all have far worse security than Pixels or iPhones." sure, I agreed on that part? I think most important thing for Europeans is data privacy and tech independent. Didn't claim that some European project is superior. But they ever won't be if they don't start somewhere. 5/n

Ps. How can you write so long messages? I have limit of 500 marks, could be more clear to answer with one post but haven't figured that one out yet

@Voxelpower "It's not about showing that they are “superior.” It's about providing technically accurate information, refuting false claims made by various companies and organizations (some of which attack GrapheneOS), and defending themselves from those attacks." This is copy paste from GOS :D But to be honest if they are as good as they claim they wouldn't participate in so toxicly at conversations. They attach so personally to everyone who don't even say anything bad. Bad PR imo 6/6

@Antti98 @Voxelpower Yeah, all you did is link to harassment content from a Kiwi Farms user targeting an open source developer and project with fabricated stories aimed at targeting them with violence. You're doing that to promote a largely closed source product (SailfishOS) with poor privacy and atrocious security paired with extremely false marketing.

GrapheneOS is a Linux distribution and unlike SailfishOS our code is entirely open source rather than mostly closed. You're spewing falsehoods.

@Voxelpower I don't need to participate any personal attacks in one way or another. You just demonstrated what I meant, I don't know how chatting about phone OS turns into speaking about neo-Nazis without relating at all to those OSs? Can't deny that video is true tho about GOS communication? Note that I don't deny anything you say about Rossmann.

Didn't claim that average Joe couldn't use GOS, just that it makes most sense for those that probably face direct 3rd party attacks. 2/3

> I don't need to participate any personal attacks in one way or another.

You posted content from a Kiwi Farms user bullying an open source developer and targeting him with harassment by pushing fabricated stories about him. You're engaging in personal attacks and participating in harassment.

> how chatting about phone OS turns into speaking about neo-Nazis

You linked to Kiwi Farms style harassment content. It's you who introduced it to the conversation to attack us.

> Can't deny that video is true tho about GOS communication?

Fabricated stories about our team don't demonstrate anything. You're supporting someone who targeted an open source developer with libel, bullying and harassment after they were repeatedly swatted by people who are part of actual toxic communities around other open source projects engaging in harassment to the point they've escalated it to violence. Trying to kill people via law enforcement is violence.

> Didn't claim that average Joe couldn't use GOS, just that it makes most sense for those that probably face direct 3rd party attacks.

GrapheneOS is far easier to use and far more production ready. It has very broad app compatibility. It's a privacy focused project first and foremost which it provides by keeping up with the latest AOSP privacy improvements and massively improving upon that with actual technical advancements. We also focus on privacy for all the services.

@Antti98 @Voxelpower Privacy requires private services, patches for privacy vulnerabilities and privacy protections such as our Contact Scopes and Storage Scopes features along with many others. Privacy also heavily depends on security, since otherwise it can be bypassed. People do not need to be specifically targeted in any attack for security to matter. Security vulnerabilities are widely exploited. Even 0 day (undisclosed) vulnerabilities are exploited a lot including non-targeted attacks.

@Voxelpower But back to the main point, Pixel (Google hardware) with GOS (Google developed OS with different clothes and nicer seams) doesn't contribute anything to the table if we are looking European alternatives, doesn't it?

It is okay to say that GOS is probably the safest, but why to bash every other alternative just to probe your superiority? Some alternatives are in my opinion good enough from privacy perspective to average Joe who's main privacy thread is Google/Meta/Microsoft 3/3

@Antti98 @Voxelpower Instead you promote SailfishOS which was developed in partnership with the Russian government long after the invasion of Crimea. They've also participated in the same harassment you are. Those are apparently the European values you promote along with the main focus of xenophobia. You think that somehow a European brand having phones produced for them by a company in China is an improvement because it makes Europeans feel as if the tech was made there when it wasn't.

@Antti98 @Voxelpower SailfishOS has poor privacy and atrocious security. It's also largely closed source. You talk about bashing alternatives but yet you're the one posting libelous harassment content towards the GrapheneOS team. You're trying to falsely portray accurate technical information as bashing while you're participating in harassment towards the development team of a project because you want to promote a largelyt closed source option from another unethical for-profit company over it.

@Antti98 @Voxelpower The video you've linked is harassment content based around blatant fabrications and misrepresentations. Even the title of the video was an outright lie as he was caught continuing to use GrapheneOS as his daily driver by his community. The claim that he was scared of using it or scared of us responding to his attacks was a lie. What he claimed about what we said to him and his past interactions with us were lies. He did many months of public and private bullying before this.

https://kiwifarms.st/members/larossmann.132201/

@Antti98 @Voxelpower You're participating in targeting an open source developer and project with blatant libel, bullying and harassment. Louis Rossmann is a Kiwi Farms user who directly involved them and began their harassment towards us. This is his identity verified account on that doxxing/libel/harassment site where he seeks out their support and regularly rants about organizations/individuals he wants them to target while feigning ignorance and pretending otherwise:

larossmann

Kiwi Farms

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower I didn't even talk to you... Claiming that I participated in libel, bullying and harassment is great lie when biggest negative thing I said about you is that I don't value your communication way :D In a post that weren't even directed to you! Does it even matter what Rossmann does, when you are representing yourself this way? You are doing bullying just right here....

> I didn't even talk to you

You linked to harassment content towards our team based on fabricated stories and are repeating those libelous false claims yourself.

> Claiming that I participated in libel, bullying and harassment is great lie

No, it's the truth and you continue demonstrating it.

> when you are representing yourself this way?

You're engaging in libel and harassment towards. We're just debunking it and posting accurate info about SailfishOS in response.

> You are doing bullying just right here....

No, this is more of the same lies Rossmann was engaging in and which you're now mimicking. You're engaging in libel and harassment towards our team, then claiming we're being aggressive or engaging in bullying because we responded to debunk it. Defending ourselves against someone making extremely toxic lies about our team is not bullying you. Pointing out your claims and what you're linking are fabrications is not bullying.

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower Can you even tell me where I lied? I didn't at any point even defend Rossman, we are not buddies... I am just saying that it is crazy if someone says you should think how you communicate → attack that person and say he is harassing you. As an organisation you maybe need to learn how to take maybe criticism? Technical facts are okay for sure, but if someone suggest something, think it for a second

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower "You linked to harassment content towards our team" I didn't know original poster was one of your team member? "libelous false claims yourself" Sure, I claimed that your communication is very unhealthy. I think it depends of person what is considered toxic or unhealthy but you are constantly claiming like I attacked your team. I didn't but for some reason you attack me? You are much more harassing me

@Antti98 @Voxelpower We're absolutely not harassing you and this attempt at DARVO tactics towards us is despicable. You linked on your main timeline and also here to content from a person openly engaging in extreme bullying towards the founder of GrapheneOS through leaking their personal info, making outrageously false claims about them and trying to baselessly portray them as insane with the clear goal of directing harassment towards them. Spreading that content is actual harassment.

@Antti98 @Voxelpower Regardless of your original intent, you have not removed either of your posts spreading that harassment content. Responding to your attacks on our team on a public discussion platform to defend ourselves is not harassment. You're posting harassment content towards our team. You're directly participating in the tactics of trying to baselessly portray our team as crazy and making false accusations about what we've said and done. You're using typical DARVO tactics too.

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower I am sorry but now we are just spinning in loop. You are discussion about so many things that I didn't participate in any way. I claimed that GOS should improve their communication and that GOS isn't European (OP looked EU solution). No harassment there imo as first one is personal opinion and second one is fact. I didn't say that you are crazy, I said that this aggressive messaging campaign is crazy. Where have I made any accusations of what you have said or done?

GrapheneOS Jan 10

@Antti98 @Voxelpower You posted harassment content towards our founder and on your feed. It's representative of the overall behavior of the SailfishOS community, which is extraordinarily toxic and is the actual toxic project and community in this situation. You push fabricated stories about GrapheneOS and our team but in reality you are the people who aren't decent human beings and endlessly harass our team / community as you were doing here. It is you who is toxic and aggressive.

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower That is just blatant lye just there xD I didn't mention even SFOS, you picked that from somewhere yourself. If I say that your communication is aggressive and I don't like it, how another community can suddenly be part of harassment campaign against you? And aren't decent human being when no one from SFOS haven't even said anything? Cmoon, you just repeat that while you don't say really say anything factual.

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower Are you feeling okay? 14 messages seems extreme.... And we are so off topic here... Don't know him personally, don't really care as you demonstrate that the toxic communication part is definitely true. Didn't say that GOS is bad project or anything, did say it is probably the safest out there. It just is fact that GOS doesn't bring anything to European value chain if someone wants to ditch US solutions, isn't it? Nothing bad with that imo, what does GOS think?

> Are you feeling okay?

You're participating in harassment towards our team. You clearly don't care about our well being. Is this the typical attempt at claiming we're insane?

> seems extreme

There's nothing extreme about our response.

> as you demonstrate that the toxic communication

Debunking posts with fabricated stories and harassment towards our team isn't toxic.

> Didn't say that GOS is bad project

You spread harassment content towards us. That's far worse.

> It just is fact that GOS doesn't bring anything to European value chain if someone wants to ditch US solutions, isn't it?

Based on what you've been saying, European values appears to be supporting a company which heavily collaborated with Russia after they invaded Ukraine. Do European values include supporting harassment towards open source developers with fabricated stories too? Do those values including portraying people as crazy who disagree with you too?

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower well to be completely honest, I was devastated how almost any company didn't do anything after crimean invasion. As we know today that was bad call from everyone that it was still allowed for business to continue operate inside Russia. Did GOS exit Russia back then?

But if someone cuts Russians of by driving company to bankruptcy first and continuing with European ownership/team I am definitely willing to give them change.

@Antti98 @Voxelpower GrapheneOS has never had a presence in Russia. Our lead developer is Ukrainian and was heavily impacted by Russia's invasion. He ended up being forcibly conscripted into the Ukrainian army since he didn't want to leave his home. Jolla claims to no longer be working with Russia but they clearly only did it for the sake of appearances and didn't actually believe in it. The reality is they'll likely go back to working with them as soon as they think it's not a big PR issue.

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower "You're participating in harassment towards our team." I said that I don't like the way you communicate. It is quite bold to say that to be harassment :D But taking any critique might be too much, well anyway....

@Antti98 @Voxelpower You're directly participating in Rossmann's harassment towards our team. That includes baselessly trying to portray members of our team as insane, pushing fabricated stories about us from him and making your own highly inaccurate claims about us. Calling people insane, leaking private info about them and encouraging more violence towards them after already helping to get them repeatedly swatted is harassment. You're directly participating in it trying to promote SailfishOS.

@Antti98 @Voxelpower Many SailfishOS community members have recently been engaging in harassment towards our team and pushing fabrications about GrapheneOS. It's not the successful marketing strategy you think it is. Due to you folks doing that, many people are being informed about the lack of privacy, security, functionality, app compatibility and even open source with SailfishOS. The parts specific to it are largely source and for years they were officially partnered with Putin's regime...

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower Don't know why in every other post we are talking about Putin/Russia? I haven't targeted GOS, haven't posted anything to your posts or tagged you in any way. I am not doing here any official marketing, I am trying to enjoy one last social media sites where most of people know how to behave, maybe not all tho....

@Antti98 @Voxelpower You have targeted GrapheneOS by spreading harassment content towards our team including on your main timeline, not only here. If that wasn't your intention then you're welcome to remove it everywhere you've posted it and we'll remove our responses about it if you'd like.

SailfishOS community has been heavily attacking GrapheneOS recently including personal attacks on our team. Jolla chose to permit it on their own forum and elsewhere so this does involve them.

@Antti98 @Voxelpower You're welcome to remove your posts linking to harassment content towards our founder and your replies to us and we'll do the same by removing ours. It's entirely your choice to be engaging in this discussion. It was you who steered the topic away from technical to personal attacks on our team. Your response to accurate information was linking to harassment content from a Kiwi Farms user. You posted it on your timeline so it's fair if we respond to you on ours.

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower True, shouldn't have answered to you probably. I just hoped that maybe you had done some improvements with communication when the project is great. I don't know how I steered the topic away from technical to personal attack towards you. We weren't talking tech aspects at all, we were looking European solutions. GOS was mentioned → I said "Great projects, but don't like their communication way (+they aren't EU based)". It is skill to take criticism

GrapheneOS Jan 10

@Antti98 @Voxelpower Your posted libelous harassment content towards our team. You continue engaging in libel towards our team and standing behind your participation in harassment. That's fine, we'll make a post about SailfishOS on our forum and link it across platforms. The more your community attacks us, the more harm you will cause to SailfishOS and Jolla. We've archived your posts as another example of the SailfishOS community engaging in harassment but won't use it if you remove it.

@GrapheneOS @Voxelpower I have zero participation in Jolla or SFOS. You pulled SFOS from somewhere yourself. No one can claim that personal (politely written) opinion of someone else communication way is harassment campaign. Archive anything you want, all your comments can also be found from here. If you attack so hardly against personal opinions, good luck for future. I am not representing here any community, just my personal opinions about your communication skills.

@GrapheneOS I don't know why we should censor internet so heavily that we delete content. That specific video just showed and I quote myself "I also have problem a little bit how GOS people communicates". Didn't say anything about Rossmann, didn't take the conversation in any deeper to any way. My point was and is that your communication is way too aggressive. Linking video is easier than looking screenshots myself. If you have better link I can change to that?

GrapheneOS Jan 10

@Antti98 You posted a link to libelous harassment content. You've been peddling the same fabricated stories yourself. That's fine,. you're giving a good example of the toxicity of the SailfishOS and their community contrary to how you want to portray things. The more you engage in harassment, the more damage you will cause to the SailfishOS project. We'll be making a post about their Jolla's false claims about AOSP and GrapheneOS combined with their community's harassment of our team and raids.

@GrapheneOS What fabricated stories? I said that I don't like your communication way... How can you fabricate personal opinion? How can you connect personal opinion of random person to some project, SFOS in this regard? I have never worked there, I have never contributed to that project. Now you have just picked random project to bash from somewhere... Everyone could say that you are harassing and raiding other projects in this regard with zero connection. If you have better link, give it