Fairphone still lacks standard security features such as a secure element, and they have partially installed EoL hardware.
See also:
See also information from Tavi (Android security researcher and former developer of DivestOS):
https://forum.fairphone.com/t/is-fairphone-really-interested-in-sustainability/99302/2
If you want a secure, privacy-friendly smartphone, the best choice would be a current Pixel (refurbished models are also fine) with GrapheneOS:
@Voxelpower But if you want European choice here then the Pixel with GOS doesn't really bring anything to the table. Of course still great choice for journalist and opposition activist! But for average Joe, there are privacy friendly options, which can even be fully Google free as they aren't even android based.
I also have problem a little bit how GOS people communicates. This has been demonstrated well in video: https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0
> "But for average Joe, there are privacy friendly options, which can even be fully Google free as they aren't even android based"
GrapheneOS is the only custom OS that does not weaken or eliminate the security of AOSP, but actually significantly improves it. It is also the only custom OS that does not delay security updates for weeks or months. Any custom operating systems that are not based on Android (e.g., Sailfish OS) lack basic security mechanisms such as modern exploit mitigations, memory-safe languages, reasonable sandboxing and permissions systems, strict MAC policies, etc.
This means they also lack the ability to protect users' privacy from malicious third parties.
The majority of GrapheneOS users are ordinary people, not opposition figures or journalists, so it is false to claim that GOS is only for such people.
And btw, the Linux kernel contains a lot of code from Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Red Hat, etc. Using Linux kernel-based OSes are not “fully Google free”.
> "I also have problem a little bit how GOS people communicates. This has been demonstrated well in video: https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0"
Louis Rossman often spreads fake news about GrapheneOS (e.g., he once said somewhere that GOS was dead and wouldn't be updating to Android 16, but a few days later, GOS was released with Android 16).
See also information from GrapheneOS about Rossmann and the video:
https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1950568612600619319#m
Louis Rossmann also has a verified account on KiwiFarms, one of the largest neo-Nazi, hate, and troll platforms:
https://kiwifarms.st/members/larossmann.132201/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Harassment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Christchurch_mosque_shootings
You can also see that he posts there regularly (the last time was this Wednesday, for example).
And that he specifically seeks out friendships with people who regularly attack GrapheneOS on KiwiFarms.
@Voxelpower I don't need to participate any personal attacks in one way or another. You just demonstrated what I meant, I don't know how chatting about phone OS turns into speaking about neo-Nazis without relating at all to those OSs? Can't deny that video is true tho about GOS communication? Note that I don't deny anything you say about Rossmann.
Didn't claim that average Joe couldn't use GOS, just that it makes most sense for those that probably face direct 3rd party attacks. 2/3
> I don't need to participate any personal attacks in one way or another.
You posted content from a Kiwi Farms user bullying an open source developer and targeting him with harassment by pushing fabricated stories about him. You're engaging in personal attacks and participating in harassment.
> how chatting about phone OS turns into speaking about neo-Nazis
You linked to Kiwi Farms style harassment content. It's you who introduced it to the conversation to attack us.
> Can't deny that video is true tho about GOS communication?
Fabricated stories about our team don't demonstrate anything. You're supporting someone who targeted an open source developer with libel, bullying and harassment after they were repeatedly swatted by people who are part of actual toxic communities around other open source projects engaging in harassment to the point they've escalated it to violence. Trying to kill people via law enforcement is violence.
> Didn't claim that average Joe couldn't use GOS, just that it makes most sense for those that probably face direct 3rd party attacks.
GrapheneOS is far easier to use and far more production ready. It has very broad app compatibility. It's a privacy focused project first and foremost which it provides by keeping up with the latest AOSP privacy improvements and massively improving upon that with actual technical advancements. We also focus on privacy for all the services.
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