International OUTRAGE is necessary and expected of all world leaders. This cannot be allowed to set a precedent in any way.
#USA is now an international TERRORIST STATE.
https://stoptrump.org.uk/trumps-criminal-attack-on-venezuela/
is now? it's been a terrorist organization since forever
Vietnam and agent orange?
Afghanistan and the drone wars?
Guantanamo bay and torture prisons in Iraq?
the list just keeps expanding
Simply the truth…
@luhmann I'm sure the outrage in Denmark and the rest of Europe will be swift and total
Expecting to wake up to Russian-level sanctions against the US 🙄
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I know this will make me sound like some MAGA fuck, since you don't know me, but...
This is what Europe gets for spending the last 50 years complaining about the US dominance in everything instead of planning & spending their own money on defense in anticipation of Trump
The US defense policy has been that we would have to fight a two-front war, on our own. That's left us in a rather dominant position.
Europe's position has been "the US has our backs"
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@codebyjeff @luhmann ...and the US earned nothing the past eighty years selling overpriced, underperforming arms to European "allies"?
Any idea when the F35 will start working properly?
https://defence-blog.com/f-35-program-faces-delays-and-software-challenges/
@codebyjeff @luhmann ...and the US earned nothing the past eighty years selling overpriced, underperforming arms to European "allies"?
Any idea when the F35 will start working properly?
https://defence-blog.com/f-35-program-faces-delays-and-software-challenges/
@codebyjeff @luhmann ...and the USofA has earned nothing the past eighty years selling overpriced, underperforming arms to European "allies"?
Any idea when the F35 will start working properly?
https://defence-blog.com/f-35-program-faces-delays-and-software-challenges/

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program has officially entered full-rate production following an Acquisition Decision Memorandum (ADM) signed in March 2024. However, new reports from the U.S. Department of Defense’s Director, Operational Test & Evaluation (DOT&E) highlight ongoing challenges with software integration, production quality, and mission readiness. The latest F-35 combined Initial Operational Test
@luhmann against my better instincts to simply make my point, and walk away,
here's what I woke up to:
"Starmer won't be drawn on whether US strikes on Venezuela broke international law"
No mention on BBC or AP News yet of any reaction from any other country
@luhmann I understand your anger, but don't blame the citizens. Their social safety nets and education systems have been dissassembled for essentially our entire lifetimes.
Not to mention the election was probably fraudulent. People don't say it online because the left doesn't want to sound like far right nutcase conspiracy theorists, but tell me you don't privately believe it was fraud.
If any of us had to face the odds they were facing, we wouldn't come up much better.
The only rigging that happened was to convince the gullible to vote Trump or at least not vote at all.
The amount of "GenozideHarris" talk I saw (even here on Mastodon) before the elections was staggering.
Also, she wasn't left enough, etc. etc....
Hiding that behind some conspiracy theories might make you feel better, but face it - the US voters unleashed this idiot into the world.
So all the "GenocideHarris" people, by logic, should have been running to the polls voting for Harris, as Trump was always the bigger genocide supporter, and it was clearly Trump OR Harris, no other outcome possible, but that was not their conclusion.
Which smells somehow odd, when one applies "Cui Bono" to it.
@yacc143 @BoysenberryCider @luhmann
Exactly. Pretty sure that this was a propaganda thing and a lot of gullible voters fell for it.
@mndflayr @BoysenberryCider @luhmann Let's say it was one of the suspicious many "voting demotivation campaigns" that were running for Harris.
The right-wing extreme a-holes have learned their lessons well; it's much easier to change the individual "turnout" decision than to change the political alignment, so the Harris campaign saw a number of "demotivation topics" thrown their way.
@mndflayr @BoysenberryCider @luhmann But as somebody else said today on my timeline, at sometime, it is not relevant, if you are a MAGA true believer or "I didn't vote for Trump" poster, you'll be splashed with his fragrance.
When the Allies bombed Nazi Germany, they did not carefully select the targets to only hit Germans who voted for Hitler. The bombs fell on all Germans.
Yes, electing a-holes is a convenient method to wash your hands in innocence for dastardly deeds the bastards do…
But at some point the pretence ends, and the bill is presented to whole nation.
Side note, as I noticed it today, how exactly is it that when foreigners drop with parachutes and kidnap somebody without being legally authorized to do so, an arrest?
@sidereal @BoysenberryCider @luhmann
But the fucked up system of voter registration and gerrymandering is not what gave Trump this victory. The counts were pretty clear, way above what those factors could contribute.
@mattg @sidereal @BoysenberryCider
Never had those problems in Germany.
@jhavok @WatchForBones @mndflayr @luhmann While recognising that this comment is intended more as a reply in a somewhat hostile thread than a true statement of belief:
May I suggest empathy for both? It won't kill you, and might help everyone.
After all, those well meaning people were deceived by right wing cunts in think tanks who had enough empathy to understand what they needed to hear. If your movement is going to have legs, don't you think empathising with *all* of your base might help?
@jhavok @WatchForBones @mndflayr @luhmann Manipulation requires a degree of empathy, in that you have to at least understand the victim instead of completely other them. Typically a real sociopath would read a report by someone more insightful.
And my friend...you are literally being manipulated with hate. Take a step back and think about what I mean. Ask yourself, who does bashing liberals, 'I told you so' and purity spiralling serve?
@rigrig @luhmann Now that is a false choice if ever I've seen one.
You can despise a government and take action against it without being shit to the citizens of that country.
Maybe ask why you feel the need to justify judging people who can't do anything about what you're angry about?
Is there maybe some more productive way to make the world a better place that doesn't involve hating people based on their passport?
@BoysenberryCider @luhmann I’m not hating people, and I know the US is a pretty shitty place to be for most of its citizens.
That doesn’t change that I feel the primary responsibility for a countries’ actions lies with it’s citizens.
I don’t know if I’d do better, but that doesn’t make it right.
@rigrig @luhmann Ask yourself how much you believe democracy is actually in effect right now. How much the actions of any government represent 'the will of the people'. In a good country, maybe 50%?
It's more comfortable to blame whole groups for the awful things going on, because you can reach those people, but none of the people actually responsible will read your toots. But Americans will, so it feels like action.
Citizens are just sheep being fleeced, hating them won't change anything.
^ ARE YOU LISTENING TO JOACHIM, NONVOTERS? ^
it is our duty as americans to SHOW THE FUCK UP in 2026 and SHUT THIS TRUMP SHIT DOWN
that means *YOU* who did not vote in 2024
and i swear to god, one more "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe" comment and i'm going to punch my monitor
yes, deep thinkers, the democrats fucking suck
and in this world you get
better
or you get
worse
that's it
there is no better deal
EVER
welcome to reality
lose your fucking useless self-defeating toxic idealism
some of them aren't even on the left
they are MAGA, geopolitical trollfarm, or edgelord cosplayers
putting up some easy left signifiers on their anonymous account
then playing the high holy fire and brimstone indignation toxic idealism game
because it's so fucking easy
and morons "on the left" fall for the cheap purity perfection manipulation psyop
and help elect trump by not voting
what a world