Joachim LykkeJan 3
So when Trump decides to go get Greenland he’s just going to fly in and kidnap our prime minister. Great. You have a unscrupulous and clinically insane idiot elected as your president and he wants to own the world. I have absolutely no trust in any of you Americans whether you are pronounced MAGA or if you “didn’t vote for the guy”: Your elected president is a megalomaniac dictator and it’s your fucking responsibility to stop him.
Show threadSharp LeavesJan 3

@luhmann I understand your anger, but don't blame the citizens. Their social safety nets and education systems have been dissassembled for essentially our entire lifetimes.

Not to mention the election was probably fraudulent. People don't say it online because the left doesn't want to sound like far right nutcase conspiracy theorists, but tell me you don't privately believe it was fraud.

If any of us had to face the odds they were facing, we wouldn't come up much better.

Show threadJuffo-WupJan 3

@BoysenberryCider @luhmann

The only rigging that happened was to convince the gullible to vote Trump or at least not vote at all.

The amount of "GenozideHarris" talk I saw (even here on Mastodon) before the elections was staggering.

Also, she wasn't left enough, etc. etc....

Hiding that behind some conspiracy theories might make you feel better, but face it - the US voters unleashed this idiot into the world.

Show threadLil ❌👑Jan 3
@mndflayr @BoysenberryCider @luhmann For a lot of people, the hope was to pressure Harris to move further left. And of course that kind of rhetoric was amplified by the right: it was to their advantage. We're struggling in an overworked, underpaid, oligarchy which has been this way for a long time. There are almost no guardrails against fraud and misinformation here. It's a hugely uphill battle and any fighting back is not being publicized.
Show threadJimmyJan 3
@WatchForBones @mndflayr @BoysenberryCider @luhmann Anyone who shit-talked Harris to push her left was a fool and a tool. We can thank you for this new illegal war.
Show threadLil ❌👑Jan 4
@jhavok @mndflayr @BoysenberryCider @luhmann Lol ok Jimmy. I actually never did that. I just have empathy for people who did. You know...empathy...the emotion that separates us from the Nazis.
Show threadJimmyJan 4
@WatchForBones @mndflayr @BoysenberryCider @luhmann I have more empathy for the people the tools and fools have harmed.
Show threadSharp LeavesJan 4

@jhavok @WatchForBones @mndflayr @luhmann While recognising that this comment is intended more as a reply in a somewhat hostile thread than a true statement of belief:

May I suggest empathy for both? It won't kill you, and might help everyone.

After all, those well meaning people were deceived by right wing cunts in think tanks who had enough empathy to understand what they needed to hear. If your movement is going to have legs, don't you think empathising with *all* of your base might help?

Show threadJimmyJan 4
@BoysenberryCider @WatchForBones @mndflayr @luhmann I'm not sure that machiavellian manipulation should be called empathy. And I'm disgusted with people who can be manipulated with hate.
Show threadSharp LeavesJan 4

@jhavok @WatchForBones @mndflayr @luhmann Manipulation requires a degree of empathy, in that you have to at least understand the victim instead of completely other them. Typically a real sociopath would read a report by someone more insightful.

And my friend...you are literally being manipulated with hate. Take a step back and think about what I mean. Ask yourself, who does bashing liberals, 'I told you so' and purity spiralling serve?

Show threadJimmy
@BoysenberryCider @WatchForBones @mndflayr @luhmann You seem to be in a purity spiral here.
Jan 4 at 12:45pmWeb
Show threadSharp LeavesJan 4
@jhavok @WatchForBones @mndflayr @luhmann Bad faith reply, blocked.