Julien
Steve Lieber
I am your √(-1) friendA nice illustration of "Don't snort what you cook."
Yours Truly@stevelieber I understand it now
reyjkw
r-hold@stevelieber wasn't there a single human involved in that 30%?
What does that even mean?
No one wrote a promt?
Nobody checked the code?
There was no correction or altering the code after generation?
Alexey Skobkin
snakespeare
Jonathan Downie@snakespeare @rhold @stevelieber
I'm fine, thanks.
If you read *all* the text on the image, you *may* understand that those two search results are not related.
I'm fine, thanks.
If you read *all* the text on the image, you *may* understand that those two search results are not related.
OtterCynical@rhold @stevelieber ai "boom" isn't even real you tools, it's practically a fraud bubble to the tune of 610+ billion banking on bros like you 😂😂😂
Abram Kedge🏴🇨🇦@rhold @stevelieber I don't see any of those assumptions. Nor really a direct correlation between the use of the AI and the rate of rot in the Windows codebase.
However, the implication is that AI can generate subtle bugs faster than human engineers can track them down and correct them.
Even with purely human generated code, the majority of human reviewers do not do a deep dive looking to fully understand code. The best you get is a two minute read through of changes that took two days to make, and a "LGTM 👍".
Perhaps we're doing this wrong; keep humans for writing code, and use AI for doing the boring difficult bit - looking for bugs. Combine that with language constructs that indicate intent, and I think you'll have a winning combination.
CrashLogger@rhold @stevelieber Very good points but does it matter?
What we can get from this is that Microsoft's CEO is more worried about using the latest buzzword and making AI (at the very least, seem) valuable than about developing good products.
And that's honestly enough for me to not go with their products.
What we can get from this is that Microsoft's CEO is more worried about using the latest buzzword and making AI (at the very least, seem) valuable than about developing good products.
And that's honestly enough for me to not go with their products.
Crystale
lord pthenq1Links to the article:
Kevin Russell"I'll just put this here, and this here and expose the obvious stupidity of both to the Universe.
There."
Congratulations for the best catch, the best exposure, the best explanation, the greatest teaching social media has ever enjoyed.
Boom.
#ai #microsoft #techbro #vibe #code #crap #journalism #linux
Hacker 
@stevelieber They blame XAML code. Their OS is bloatware. All is being rewritten with XAML.
Mozilla had to drop XUL from Firefox.
But if it's true they generate so much code with word predictors, it'd be even worse. Bloatware and slop.
fcalva@Fedihacker @stevelieber The latest XAML release was in 2019. Knowing Microsoft, that means it's probably barely used anymore.
@fcalva @stevelieber They blame XAML: https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-finally-admits-almost-all-major-windows-11-core-features-are-broken/
The link above is in a reply to the same original post of this thread.
Neowin released an update on December 3rd: Microsoft admits major Windows 11 25H2 UI features broken too alongside 24H2 on some PCs https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-admits-major-windows-11-25h2-ui-features-broken-too-alongside-24h2-on-some-pcs/
It seems they call it now WinUI, but it's still XAML. https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-ui-xaml
They added preloading to the file explorer and it still is sluggish and proprietary software spying on you.
Tested: Windows 11’s ‘faster’ File Explorer (preloaded) is still slower than Windows 10, and uses additional RAM https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/11/28/tested-windows-11s-faster-file-explorer-preloaded-is-still-slower-than-windows-10-and-uses-additional-ram/
Mighty Murder Mittens@stevelieber This shit right here is why I work construction.
Fabian ¯\_(ツ)_/¯@mmmgaming @stevelieber See, there's the difference. Microsoft works in destruction.
FirekeeperDon@BafDyce @mmmgaming @stevelieber They're creating jobs by making messes for IT professionals to clean up after it wreaks havoc lol.
Airis Damon@stevelieber That really says it all, doesn't it?
B KahnHow long before this:
I went to a restaurant and the food was truly horrible. So I complained to the chef and he said, "Talk to the owner." So I complained to the owner and he said, "30% of the food prep is done by an LLM cook. It saves us a fortune! And it washes the dishes, too! Would you like to see it in action?" I said yes, and the cookbot was frying eggs in soapy water. No wonder the food tasted like shit. I wanted to tell the owner that I'd never come back but he'd already been replaced by an LLM owner-bot. So I walked out but on the way I noticed that all the diners were bots, too. Probably they're designed to eat soapy food so problem solved. It's a closed ecosystem and humans are not needed.
Bob Machintruc
I TRIED TO TELL YOU@stevelieber BRILLIANT!
Sean Lynch
Ender Shiru@SeanPLynch @stevelieber As funny as this is, there's a reason MS moved away from having DOS as Windows' base.
John BurnsI'm no fan of the various Alpha & Beta testing releases being pushed around as production ready code - called "A.I."...
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Over about 15ish years, I wrote/maintained/ran code that generated my database classes (for couple DB systems) through many DB changes/upgrades - result was many files with clean code lines of 800k to 1 million lines.
So automation is not all bad.
What is bad is thinking that Alpha/Beta LLM software is ready to generate production releases.
xs4me2What could possibly go wrong...
Pete"written by software" isn't the same as "written by AI"
goedelchen
@stevelieber You can tell by the way that it is.
Brokar@stevelieber The worst thing about it is that they're proud of it.
I was never proud of any of my code when it didn't work properly.
AI: "Yes, i know it's wrong, here is the solution"
Prompter: "It still doesn't work because X"
AI: "Yes, thanks for pointing that out. Here is the solution"
Prompter: "Now it's broken here"
AI: "Haha, you're right. Here is the solution"
12 hours later it still doesn't work.
@Brokar @stevelieber I've worked with *people* like that. Classic symptom of not understanding the code.
My motto was "take pride in your work, but don't get emotionally attached to it".
João Santos@Brokar @stevelieber and I assume it's much worse on a code base with 40 years of tech debt and different styles in some points.
φαггoт@stevelieber everyday i get more confused as to why OEMs keep this stuff pre-installed... xD
@stevelieber
After reading the text description after the title, this picture makes less sense. Did it's author only read the titles?
After reading the text description after the title, this picture makes less sense. Did it's author only read the titles?
Liberty and Justice For All@stevelieber a story in 2 parts
@stevelieber i coulda told you that
Patrick Morris Miller@stevelieber "But there's no connection, and you'd be a fool and a Communist to believe there was", as Bill Hicks once snarked.
GLCThat's very reassuring. I was starting to wonder, frankly. They call that the broken windows theory I believe, but I understand it's been discredited.
Roberto Otárola Estrada
Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬@stevelieber oh good. I can relax now. It's not totally terrible. Just terrible. This is fine.
sauc3lol. lmao.
Face Thumb@stevelieber We can tell
Noel KellyOne for the FAFO file.
Neil E. Hodges
@iveyline@stevelieber Why don't they stick with human intelligence? AI simply isn't intelligent and is bungling so much output that humans then have to correct
Toadofsky@stevelieber I wonder how much of Microsoft's code can be copyrighted.
su_liam@stevelieber Fortunately, the only thing I do on Windows is play video games.
phobeus@su_liam @stevelieber i think i will need it for that; i am thinking to use dual boot linux and keep microsoft for the work and videogames (i am new to both windows and linux, but windows 11 is a trauma for me; pure shit without care)
Spitfire@stevelieber just one more data center, bro.
honze@stevelieber The new Windows 11 Mystery Edition.
tootbrute@stevelieber a story in 2 acts
Helle, Queen of Dissociation 
@stevelieber don't do LLMs kids
四@stevelieber @eniko GitHub goes down almost daily now…
I wonder what the next big fiasco will be.
@stevelieber Somehow... I am not surprised with the privacy invasions and consent issues... I didn't expect Microsoft to make so many bad decisions on stability though.
This is a whole new level of fail
Microsoft itself admits almost all of windows 11 core features are broken.
I honestly never even noticed.
Why, because I only run antiX Linux full stable version and everything works as expected.
Michał Kucharczyk@stevelieber to his credit, those "up to 30%" was probably made up anyway.
Sabella