mccNov 17
I'm using Windows 10 rather than Windows 11 because I imagine if I use the outdated version I'll get only security updates and I'll be less likely to get hit with Microsoft project tying. And yet when i click the start menu i see
Show threadmccNov 17
Someone at Microsoft like… hmm you know what isn't popular enough… Minecraft… we gotta juice the numbers somehow
Show threaddreid
@mcc someone had an OKR and wants a promo.
Nov 18 at 2:23amWeb
Show threadGlyphNov 18
@dreid @mcc I strongly suspect the OKR being juiced here is Minecraft for Windows™️ not Minecraft per se (i.e. Bedrock Edition). which is vastly less popular than actual Minecraft (i.e. Java Edition) and in the middle of a medium-sized scandal about being so buggy that it’s useless
Show threadGlyphNov 18

@dreid @mcc

edit: oops, looks like they actually shipped this last year, and I have misunderstood some more recent bedrock/hardcore issue

like a big controversy at the moment is that they are working on (but have not yet shipped) Hardcore Mode for Bedrock, but it is *so common* to simply uncontrollably die due to widely-known and frequently bugs in Bedrock that players expect they won’t be able to ship it. it is commonly called “bugrock”, for obvious reasons. it’s … a very big mess

Show threadGlyphNov 18
@dreid @mcc also, https://www.reddit.com/r/BugrockMoment/
Show threadJason Petersen (he)Nov 18
@glyph @dreid @mcc that Bedrock is the default on all consoles and mobile devices means it’s at minimum vastly larger. Java is the niche edition that requires a PC to play, bugs or not.
Show threadGlyphNov 18
@jason @dreid @mcc I guess “popular” is misleading. people who play minecraft seriously (to wit: streamers, speedrunners, youtubers) overwhelmingly play java. bedrock has for sure sold more units and thanks to it being microtransactioned to death it is almost certainly responsible for waaay more ongoing revenue. prooobably bedrock has more MAUs but weirdly microsoft refuses to release any numbers on that, which seems suspicious to me
Show threadmccNov 18
@glyph @jason @dreid i bet their MAUs will shoot up if they count everyone who ran the uninstaller as "active"
Show threadcthos 🐱Nov 18
@mcc @glyph @jason @dreid congratulations, you are now the lead product manager.
Show threaddreidNov 18

@mcc @glyph @jason we call that one the U2.

> Songs of Innocence was made available to more than 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries, for what Cook marketed as "the largest album release of all time".

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mccNov 17
I'm using Windows 10 rather than Windows 11 because I imagine if I use the outdated version I'll get only security updates and I'll be less likely to get hit with Microsoft project tying. And yet when i click the start menu i see
Show threadmccNov 17
Someone at Microsoft like… hmm you know what isn't popular enough… Minecraft… we gotta juice the numbers somehow
Show threadmccNov 17
Microsoft likes to show popups bragging about all the new viruses that they snuck onto your computer
Show threadmccNov 18

Oh. OH. *NOW* I understand why a Microsoft PM is trying to fake higher Minecraft numbers

https://mastodon.social/@glyph/115568536409770845

Show threadopen "hource" softwareNov 18

@mcc

ah right, bedrock, the version where they charge money for skins and texture packs. arguably its only reason for existing.

Show threadjellNov 18
@mcc Oh. Ew. Friends don't let friends play Bedrock, anyway.
Show threadJason Petersen (he)Nov 17
@mcc they deployed Trust to you, why don't you Trust them now?
Show threadLRNov 17
@mcc vi'r'us
Show threadStygian Abyss Pie FactoryNov 17
@mcc remember when vscode was being touted as a (relatively) lightweight but robust and extensible IDE
Show threadRatsnake Games 🔞Nov 17
@psilocervine @mcc i'm almost feeling nostalgic for Atom, but Atom would probably be exactly the same if it was still popular
Show threadmccNov 17

@ratsnakegames @psilocervine I'm still using Sublime Text, which is the thing that both Atom and VSC were ripping off, which I've been using since 2010. It still hasn't changed, I can still use my themes from 2010, it is still not AI-brained. It is closed source and costs money but in practice that means "I am supporting the developers, instead of a huge corporation giving the product away for free so they can extract something for me later".

I actually only ever pull out VSC for C#

Show threadelyNov 17

@mcc @ratsnakegames @psilocervine

I get back to it also ALL THE TIME

Show threadDDRNov 17
@mcc I'm using Sublime here too, for the exact same reasons. Damn solid text editor.
Show threadGabriel NNov 17
@mcc I still love Sublime, even though no one else seems to use it.
Show threadAMT 🇳🇱Nov 17
@mcc @ratsnakegames @psilocervine I think Atom was a big step backward coming from Sublime text. Startup time of atom launched in a big directory was atrocious where as Sublime was instantaneous. I used it for anything other than Java/Scala for which I had to use IntelliJ Idea.
Show threadRatsnake Games 🔞Nov 17

@amt @mcc @psilocervine I never used Sublime because 100$ is just a bit too steep for a text editor imo, and i think it used to be Mac-exclusive?

I never really liked Atom, to be clear.

Show threadAMT 🇳🇱Nov 17
@ratsnakegames @mcc @psilocervine sorry, being a cheapskate, I never paid a single penny for Sublime. You just have one pop up on startup and no other nagging involved with using it for free
Show threadmccNov 17
@ratsnakegames @amt @psilocervine I don't know what you mean about mac exclusive… when i first started using it mac/win/linux parity was the most important feature to me. Wikipedia says Sublime started on Windows… could you be thinking of Textmate?
Show threadRatsnake Games 🔞Nov 17
@mcc @amt @psilocervine hence the question mark, i might be misremembering
Show threadMax CahillNov 17
@mcc @ratsnakegames @psilocervine I too am signing this petition haha.
Sublime is great and has been my daily driver for more than a decade now.
Show threadShineNov 17
@ratsnakegames @psilocervine @mcc Quite certainly, given the fact that Zed, written by former Atom devs, leans heavily into Agentic AI support
Show threadideaPDishNov 17
Raise the load and
lash the admonition
Show threadpoetasterNov 17
@psilocervine off topic, but Stygian Abyss Pie Factory is hence forward my favourite name. It will become my emacs MOTD into perpetuity or thereafter.
Show threadRaven667Nov 17
@psilocervine @mcc I use VSCodium (from Flatpak) or VSCode but turn off the AI bullshit. I don't feel like I'm missing anything by the main developers fucking around on irrelevant features, it's been feature complete for a long long time now for code editing, and I think one of the strengths of its design is that you can use as much OR as *little* of it as you want and the features you don't use don't get in your way. Different than my experience of "Project" focused IDEs where you have to go through some setup wizard before you can edit anything, I remember XCode being annoying to try and use as a general-purpose editor.
Show threadmccNov 17
@raven667 So the thing is, I'm using Sublime Text, the thing VS Code was a knockoff of originally, and it's got the "much or as little" nature AND it supports light mode, which VS Code has like a zillion themes and somehow neither of them are a legible light mode
Show threadRaven667Nov 17

@mcc haha, dark mode 4eva. I just happened across VSCode before Sublime when I moved from sysadmin to dev 10 years ago, and tried it "ironically" as a lark, because it's funny installing MS tools on a Linux desktop, but I ended up really liking it.

I just popped open Sublime (an old version available on Flathub) and I see what you mean, it gives me the same vibe, and maybe if I get annoyed with VSCodium I'll end up buying a license for Sublime. I've also looked at Kate from KDE which seems OK but like many KDE tools its a little busy and janky, so I think it'd require some amount of constant fiddling which is a distraction

Show threadTaffer 🇨🇦Nov 18
@mcc @raven667 Alabaster might be a non-sucky light mode theme?
Show threadÖlbaumNov 18
@psilocervine @mcc I’m thinking of going back to @bbedit, despite the lack of multiple cursors. However, while perusing the user manual, I discovered a chapter about AI. Fucks.
Show threadGastropodNov 17
@mcc I feel I should be used to it by now, but I still feel the strong hatred like every time I get a viral infection after some asshats sneezed into my eyes.
Show threadPooyan KhanjankhaniNov 17
@mcc After 6-7 years, I'm quite happy with my neovim investment, god BLESS Luke Smith who brought me into that world :)
Show threadJoeNov 18
@mcc Windows 11 is more vulnerable to virus than ever, too much info collection and blotware. Then you see this mfs say every time that things are undercontrol
Show threadTaffer 🇨🇦Nov 18
@mcc I use VSCodium, which is supposed to have all the MS crap turned off. Seriously thinking about going back to Sublime though. Or EMACS.
Show threadComplexity of systemsNov 19
@mcc you can technically disable all of the AI stuff it just takes a while like I think they're at least 30 options you have to change to get rid of everything
Show threadslembckeNov 17
@mcc It still blows my mind that they added a LinkedIn key to the operating system, but not a Minecraft one despite spending billions more on acquiring it.
Show threadSquibblesNov 17
@slembcke @mcc small clarification, it's a shortcut (ctrl + shift + alt + win + L). The LinkedIn key just fires that shortcut they added to windows from what I've read
Show threadslembckeNov 17
@squibbles @mcc Wait wait wait... Yeah, by "key" I meant the shortcut. Are you saying there are machines with a LinkedIn *KEY*? I did some searching, but just found more info about the shortcut.
Show threadSquibblesNov 17
@slembcke @mcc yeah they actually put out some keyboards with a physical linkedin key I believe
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Nov 17
@mcc it’s the new solitaire
Show threaddreidNov 18
@mcc someone had an OKR and wants a promo.
Show threadGlyphNov 18
@dreid @mcc I strongly suspect the OKR being juiced here is Minecraft for Windows™️ not Minecraft per se (i.e. Bedrock Edition). which is vastly less popular than actual Minecraft (i.e. Java Edition) and in the middle of a medium-sized scandal about being so buggy that it’s useless
Show threadGlyphNov 18

@dreid @mcc

edit: oops, looks like they actually shipped this last year, and I have misunderstood some more recent bedrock/hardcore issue

like a big controversy at the moment is that they are working on (but have not yet shipped) Hardcore Mode for Bedrock, but it is *so common* to simply uncontrollably die due to widely-known and frequently bugs in Bedrock that players expect they won’t be able to ship it. it is commonly called “bugrock”, for obvious reasons. it’s … a very big mess

Show threadGlyphNov 18
@dreid @mcc also, https://www.reddit.com/r/BugrockMoment/
Show threadJason Petersen (he)Nov 18
@glyph @dreid @mcc that Bedrock is the default on all consoles and mobile devices means it’s at minimum vastly larger. Java is the niche edition that requires a PC to play, bugs or not.
Show threadGlyphNov 18
@jason @dreid @mcc I guess “popular” is misleading. people who play minecraft seriously (to wit: streamers, speedrunners, youtubers) overwhelmingly play java. bedrock has for sure sold more units and thanks to it being microtransactioned to death it is almost certainly responsible for waaay more ongoing revenue. prooobably bedrock has more MAUs but weirdly microsoft refuses to release any numbers on that, which seems suspicious to me
Show threadmccNov 18
@glyph @jason @dreid i bet their MAUs will shoot up if they count everyone who ran the uninstaller as "active"
Show threadcthos 🐱Nov 18
@mcc @glyph @jason @dreid congratulations, you are now the lead product manager.
Show threaddreidNov 18

@mcc @glyph @jason we call that one the U2.

> Songs of Innocence was made available to more than 500 million iTunes customers in 119 countries, for what Cook marketed as "the largest album release of all time".

Show threadunattributed 𓂃✍︎Nov 18

@mcc They made a big change to Bedrock a couple of weeks back (migrated to their GDK), and basically made it unplayable according to several prominent bedrock streamers / youtubers.

My bet is that they are seeing a lot of uninstalls, and want to recoup the lost installations by pushing it everywhere they can.

Show threadRinaldo GiorgettiNov 17
@mcc i have to roll back. Maybe. I"m on Linux now, i keep a dual boot with w11 just to play Game Pass game. But I had to block avery update because after reboot, system can't start and auto roll back. (All the process takes like a hour), maybe, win 11 doen't like Dual Boot. Now the remove Game Pass prize from Microsoft Reward, so I think I will not use it anymore. So that win11 system is in danger.
Show threadFurbland's Very Cool Mastodon™Nov 17
@mcc I’ve just realized you could sing this to the tune of https://youtu.be/ujZcM-DSamA
Twitter for Android

YouTube
Show threadJernej Simončič �Nov 17
@mcc Right-click Desktop → Personalize → select Start Menu in the left column → uncheck "Show suggestions" (or something like that) on the right.
Show threadmccNov 17
@jernej__s it's already off. and it wasn't a suggestion they actually installed it. i had to un-install it
Show threadAprazethNov 17

@mcc
This. And this, along with other things, are what finally got me over my executive dysfunction and just went with Linux

It's just such actual malware these days - unbelievable :-/

@jernej__s

Show threadJón FrímannNov 17
@mcc I also got this. Microsoft also seems to have made the Minecraft launcher mostly obsolete.
Show threadiamsNov 17
@mcc Yeah... Windows isn't trustworthy. I've said as much before: vaporize the built-in update/phone-home services and get used to manually sourcing and installing security updates. Resulting complexity will depend on how deeply you dig with the rusty and radioactive serrated spoon of deenshitification. The number of times an update has resulted in a total wipe and OS reinstall on a default install is too freaking high -- and that's beside the issue you raise, in addition to all the others.
Show threadPooyan KhanjankhaniNov 17
@mcc XP works like a charm, you'd get back Clippy as a bonus too.