khm
Let's hop on a call about it. Just a quick Teams meeting. Let's huddle it on Slack. We can chat about it on Hive. Hit me on Troop. Got time for a Webex? Jump on a Zoom. Let's task it on Chanty. Get on Flock with me. Send a message on Rocket. We'll workshop it on Ryver. Link me on Pumble. Log into my Discord server. Shoot me a message on Matrix. We'll do Google Chat. ProofHub me. Upbase me. Wrike me. Asana me. Notion me. Let's talk on Viva Engage.
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Show threadPreston Maness ☭Nov 6
@khm #email #ThunderBird #Teams #Slack #Hive #Troop #WebEx #Zoom #Chanty #Flock #Rocket #Ryver #Pumble #Discord #Matrix #GoogleChat #ProofHub #Upbase #Wrike #Asana #Notion #VivaEngage #TheresNoWayTheseAreAllActuallyMessagingApplicationsIsThereQuestionMark
Show thread✌️Cowabunga, dudes!👶Nov 6
@khm
All of them at the same time? 

Ha-ha-ha, Sametime — wasn't it some IBM chat thing?
Show threadggcNov 6
What’s more surprising is that Jira didn’t make the cut
Show threadStrypeyNov 10

@khm This is the problem having an open standard for online chat is meant to solve. We have at least 2; XMPP and Matrix, and most chat services don't interoperate over either.

Why? IMHO it's because you can justify much higher stock valuations if you can credibly promise to win the zero-sum battle to be the One Ring. And startup founders and early employees are paid for some or all of their early stage work in stock options.

#chat #enshittification

Show threadMagical CatNov 10
@strypey @khm
As I see Cory Doctorow explianed it better. Basically, there is no law on communication software to be interoperable. If there was such law for software with like 100K+ monthly active people "aboard" to be interoperable with any other such software, with penalties for not doing so, it would become more lucrative for these chat/collaboration software to be interoperable via 1-3 protocols used by everyone for "federated" communication.
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Show threadMagical CatNov 10
@strypey @khm
but also many of these software today offer not just "collaboration" and "chat", but pretend to be thing aimed at "corporate sector", where there is bubble of "anoything within organization" and "evil space outside of safe in-org bubble".