John Leonard
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Mass surveillance doesn't make us safer. We need to deconstruct this false notion.
Mass surveillance is only a tool for control and oppression, it is not for protection.
J Lou@Em0nM4stodon mass surveillance makes innocent people prisoners. Entire societies become panopticons.
hwebb@jlou @Em0nM4stodon The goal is to normalize military presence to ultimately do things like blocking voting access and disappearing more people (judges, journalists, etc.).
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Alex Rock
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That One WalnutNot really, it can be used for both and is neither 100% evil nor 100% good.
Just like practically anything, it depends on how you use it.
The problem arises that even if we had a really well meaning government in place that only uses surveillance for good, we don’t know what the next one will do with the power. Even if the data is well protected from third parties (which it never is).
But that doesn’t make surveillance inherently good or bad. There always is nuance.
I do agree that I don’t want it implemented in my country or the EU, because it indeed doesn’t make any of us safer.
hamish campbell@Em0nM4stodon we could https://hamishcampbell.com/the-question-of-who-has-access-to-data-and-more-importantly-metadata/ look at this a different way #OMN
Andreas Grois@Em0nM4stodon As always, there is a relevant thread by Cory Doctorow about this: https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/115061476156314789
Cory Doctorow (@pluralistic@mamot.fr)
Attached: 1 image Forget surveillance capitalism - let's talk about *surveillance infantilism*: the drive by the wealthy to spy on you in order to pursue the toddler's goals of getting everything they want from the people around them, without any reciprocal obligations. -- If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog: https://pluralistic.net/2025/08/20/billionaireism/#surveillance-infantalism 1/
You are not paranoid if they are really out to get you.
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Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP 🇨🇦🌹🚴♂️📷 🗺️mass surveillance makes a society about as safe as issuing everybody guns
Simon Forman@Em0nM4stodon It does make us safer if we practice it on the people in power.
Cake Eater XVI@Em0nM4stodon welcome to the American panopticon.
wsmMass surveillance universalizes and debases reasonable suspicion. One may or may not laud economic order that features creative destruction, but such a thing is inhibited, for organizations and institutions mass surveillance favors incumbency.
Dr Reinenstein she/her@Em0nM4stodon who thinks it's safer? maybe I don't run with the crowd who's brainwashed into thinking it's safer, but I've never heard that before.
Fat_Farang@Em0nM4stodon Same can be said of the police.
Nochem ben ShlomoMass surveillance makes us less safe.
NotARobot@Em0nM4stodon mass surveillance is essentially the human version of the "if everyone is dead they cant hurt themselves" robot apocalypse story.
Yora@Em0nM4stodon It keeps the tyrants safer.
Andreas Voit@Em0nM4stodon In my opinion, the introduction of mass surveillance measures is also a victory for terrorism. Citizens' freedoms are being restricted.
cognitively accessible math@Em0nM4stodon
We need t dispense of the idea that there's a benign authority that will step in and bring justice behind this stuf.
Just... nope.
We need t dispense of the idea that there's a benign authority that will step in and bring justice behind this stuf.
Just... nope.