Mastodawn

cynthia rose is desirable Jul 14

meanwhile California's tomato harvest rots bc they've raided the fields....

I feel like screaming

Diane Jul 14

@cynthiarose @ai6yr

I kind of wonder if the Trump regime is taking lessons from Netanyahu about how to starve a population.

(It is slightly more correct to refer to both governments by using the same type of name)

👊🇺🇸🔥Jul 15

@alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr Israel and Russia.

https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/deadly-exchange

Serge from Babka Jul 15

Thanks. the three of you for the reminder of what Deadly Exchange looks like.

#FediAntisemitism

@Avitus @alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr

Deadly Exchange | #TranslateHate

Translate Hate was created by American Jewish Committee (AJC) to explain antisemitism. This glossary aims to improve media literacy on antisemitism and hate, especially in the digital realm. See when Deadly Exchange is antisemitic.

AJC

me_valentijn

@serge @Avitus @alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr
That page makes no sense. It takes multiple different claims, and somehow concludes that they are all the same and ergo antisemitic:

1) Israeli training is responsible for US police brutality. (This is a gross mischaracterization of statements made by Jewish Voice for Peace. And obviously US cops don't need any help when it comes to being racist or brutal.)

2) US-Israeli joint military training makes both countries more racist and fascist. (How is this statement antisemitic? Fascists encourage each other, as always.)

3) Accusing Israel of murdering children is antisemitic. (It's a statement of fact that Israel indiscriminately kills massive amounts of Palestinian children and is in the midst of deliberately starving the rest.)

4) It's scapegoating to accuse Israel of complicity in US cops murdering Black people. (Well, no it's not scapegoating if the US cops actually doing it are blamed too. And again, this is a very "creative" interpretation of what was actually said by JVP.)

That page is as logically incoherent and full of false equivalencies as the rest of New Antisemitism.

@me_valentijn @serge @Avitus @cynthiarose @ai6yr

It looks to me like right wing leaders do not say words to refer to an external objective reality, they say words purely for their emotional impact.

AI6YR Ben Jul 14

#politics

cynthia rose is desirable Jul 14

meanwhile California's tomato harvest rots bc they've raided the fields....

I feel like screaming

Diane Jul 14

@cynthiarose @ai6yr

I kind of wonder if the Trump regime is taking lessons from Netanyahu about how to starve a population.

(It is slightly more correct to refer to both governments by using the same type of name)

cynthia rose is desirable Jul 15

@alienghic @ai6yr

god I hope not.

👊🇺🇸🔥Jul 15

@alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr Israel and Russia.

https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/deadly-exchange

Serge from Babka Jul 15

Thanks. the three of you for the reminder of what Deadly Exchange looks like.

#FediAntisemitism

@Avitus @alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr

Deadly Exchange | #TranslateHate

AJC

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165383

@serge

It's not anti-semitic to describe that the various international right wing movements cooperate and learn from each other.

And it's not like Netanyahu and his coalition invented intentionally causing a famine to kill off a local population. There's plenty of other examples throughout history.

There is plenty of documentation that there is a famine in Gaza, and that factions of Israel are the ones intentionally maintaining the blockade of food and critical supplies from reaching Gaza that are causing this famine.

It is pessimistic of me to think that Stephan Miller hates Hispanics so badly he would trigger widespread hunger in Los Angeles. But kidnapping farm workers and deploying troops does look like a first step of an occupation.

So maybe it'd be less Gaza and more Sarajevo, but that 1992 event has been long forgotten by most.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sarajevo

No fuel, no aid, no escape: UN agencies warn of looming collapse in Gaza

The fuel crisis in Gaza has reached a breaking point, threatening to bring all humanitarian operations to a halt and endangering the lives of everyone reliant on aid inside the enclave, UN agencies warned in a powerful joint statement on Saturday.

UN News

me_valentijn Jul 15

@serge @Avitus @alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr
That page makes no sense. It takes multiple different claims, and somehow concludes that they are all the same and ergo antisemitic:

2) US-Israeli joint military training makes both countries more racist and fascist. (How is this statement antisemitic? Fascists encourage each other, as always.)

That page is as logically incoherent and full of false equivalencies as the rest of New Antisemitism.

@me_valentijn @serge @Avitus @cynthiarose @ai6yr

It looks to me like right wing leaders do not say words to refer to an external objective reality, they say words purely for their emotional impact.

Hugs4friends ♾🇺🇦 🇵🇸😷Jul 15

@alienghic Could be. Yahu would starve Israelis, if it fed into his fantasy. @cynthiarose @ai6yr

hex Jul 15

@alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr oh no, that's silly. He's taking lessons from Pol Pot and Mao.

"It's gonna be a GREAT leap people, THE GREATEST leap ANYONE HAS EVER SEEN! We're going to leap back to when America was great. So many people will cry when they see what we're doing with this country."

@Hex @cynthiarose @ai6yr

Yeah the attacks on universities do remind me of that old time cultural revolution

Sozan Jul 15

@Hex I think you nailed it.
@alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr

Dark Phoenix 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇬🇱🇵🇦🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈Jul 15

@cynthiarose @ai6yr
Another reason to shop at the farmer's market.

@Darkphoenix @cynthiarose Alas, the same workers who pick the fruit for farmer's markets are the same ones being whisked away by masked ICE vehicles.

Dark Phoenix 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇬🇱🇵🇦🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈Jul 15

@ai6yr @cynthiarose
and that is why I gave no specifics...

MsMerope Jul 14

@ai6yr
AND
it's f'ing mid July
IT'S TOO LATE NOW TO BOOST PRODUCTION!!!

somebody just wanted to dump their hunts/del monte stock because the stupid is so thick you can stand a spoon up in it.

Darwin Woodka Jul 14

should have ICE agents go pick vegetables instead of harassing the people that do

jj the Santa Barbarian Jul 14

@ai6yr a lot of tomatoes are rotting in the fields right now due to short handedness on some farms

Neil E. Hodges Jul 15

@ai6yr @cookiesinheaven They're too disconnected from food production to understand. :/

Steve Hersey Jul 15

@ai6yr Gods below, these people know nothing about tomatoes. Cruelty and incompetence.

thegardendude 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸Jul 15

@ai6yr Yeah good luck to them trying to lure affluent white people into the fields to pick tomatoes for minimum wage (or worse) in brutal conditions all day

COD Jul 15

@thegardendude @ai6yr In high school my wife and her friends thought picking corn would be a great way to get paid to get a tan. They lasted two weeks.

Randall Lee Jul 15

@chrisod @thegardendude @ai6yr Corn harvesting has been mechanized for decades. If they lasted two weeks that's impressive

@chrisod @thegardendude @ai6yr

Poloniousmonk Jul 15

My gf's little brother picked tomatoes. He lasted less than a week.

He was good at the beginning:

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=y1dQazDYgag

@Uair @chrisod @thegardendude LOL on that comedy bit. Which is so true. All the people I have ever heard about immigrants taking jobs won't even get off the couch, much less do hard manual labor.

2xfo Jul 15

@ai6yr
These fuckers are trying to make me boycott tomatoes

kcp Jul 15

@RnDanger @ai6yr you won't be able to buy any soon so it won't matter

Karl Auerbach Jul 15

@RnDanger @ai6yr You could grow your own tomatoes. A lot of people do, even in small apartments. And the ones you do grow often taste much better than store-bought ones.

@karlauerbach @RnDanger I grow a lot of tomatoes, but not everyone can do so, and it's not easy, you can't produce nearly as many tomatoes as you eat (particularly in terms of how much we use in sauces, things like ketchup, etc.), and not all year round (etc etc etc)

2xfo Jul 15

@ai6yr @karlauerbach
I usually get a glut of tomatoes in late August but i enjoy them all year. I'm afraid I'm gonna need to start growing better

https://www.growbetterveggies.com/

Karl Auerbach Jul 15

@RnDanger @ai6yr We grow some of our tomatoes as well. I like the Momotaro variety, so I plant seeds in our heated greenhouse around the end of February. I usually get about 35 starts. Then I replant about six to eight of those starts into outdoors beds or greenhouse pots. The remaining starts generally go to a local church where they sell 'em for a couple of dollars each.

We finally get tomatoes in August through October.

If we want super high quality tomatoes of other varieties we can drive about 4 miles to Love Apple Farms.

There's a seed grower if we drive in the other direction

https://www.tomatofest.com/Tomato_Seeds_on_Sale_s/43.htm

there is beauty in simplicity Jul 15

@ai6yr they want to starve and bankrupt us

The Unfortunate Truth Jul 15

@ai6yr
You can't solve fascism with money.

Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫Jul 15

@athamanatha @ai6yr
Yeah it's like trying to cure Ebola with blood transfusions.

Fat_Farang Jul 15

@ai6yr US cuts off chips to China. Chinese government sets a goal to produce them domestically, then develops a plan and supplies the resources to make it happen.

US government plan when faced with a self-created shortage, cut off external supply and hope capitalist forces correct the problem. Any suffering caused waiting for that to happen is a price they are willing to let us pay.

*sparkling anxiety* Evelyn Jul 15

@ai6yr
Here's to our government-imposed tomato-free summer.

Frank Bennett Jul 15

@ai6yr The tomatoes that *can* be harvested mechanically are what we used to affectionately call "Davis square tomatoes" up north—unpalatable fruit suitable for processing into red paste. Watch for TV adverts touting new tomato paste and ketchup brands sporting the American flag. 🍝🇺🇲

KanaMauna Jul 15

Considering just how obviously destructive DOGE has been, I am convinced that this dismantling of the agricultural system is also intentional. They want rotting crops. They know they can afford the price inflation; this is all to crush the rest of us.

Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫Jul 15

@KanaMauna @ai6yr
We've been saying it's a death cult all this time and I don't know what to tell people who still think that's a dramatic metaphor.

KanaMauna Jul 15

@ai6yr @petealexharris

I have asked people who are still in denial that, if this is not a death cult, what is it? Never really get a response because there isn’t one.

KanaMauna Jul 15

@ai6yr @petealexharris

Now that said, I don’t think everybody in the administration is a crazy. The rest of them are just complete sociopaths who are trying to beat us into submission like they’ve done with every single one of their ex-wives.

mcSlibinas Jul 15

@ai6yr The beatings of economy will continue until economy improves.

PandaChronicle Resists Jul 15

Waiting for all the techbros to start working picking tomatoes, I guess. Kind of hard to boost US production when you keep arresting the workers and putting them in concentration camps, with no hope of due process or release.

Charles J Gervasi ⚡🛡️🥥Jul 15

@PandaChronicle @ai6yr And we (aging techies) value people, capital, and goods being able to move easily. I think some tech leaders think they can influence Trump because he's transactional without a strong ideology, and apparently fascism is not a deal breaker for them.

I think they're getting played.

Wulfy Jul 15

@PandaChronicle @ai6yr

#Robots

$150,000 and they can work 7/24 picking tomatoes, red balls, human hearts.

@PandaChronicle J. D. Vance start up sucked at tomatoes. ‘“According to a confidential witness ("CW1"), a former Crop Care Specialist at the Morehead Facility who was employed from October 2020 through July 2021, AppHarvest workers damaged a 'shocking amount' of tomatoes in the Morehead Facility," because of worker disillusionment and undertraining, the lawsuit states.’ #tomatoes https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-appharvest-investment-kansas-employees-federal-court-new-york-1939363

J.D Vance-Funded Startup Was Hit By Employee Disillusionment

Investor suit alleged they were misled about worker training and production standards in company that went bankrupt.

Newsweek

PandaChronicle Resists Jul 16

@joycebell

I'm not surprised. There is definitely a segment of the population that disdains what they consider "unskilled labor" which actually requires a fair amount of skill to do it well and make it look like it's no big deal. Having had a number of those jobs in my past, I know how much nuance is needed, not to mention being physically challenging.

Rue Mohr Jul 15

@ai6yr Does anyone know anyone in the USA who has been recently hired at a farm due to a shortage of immigrant haresting workers?

Chuck Jul 15

@RueNahcMohr @ai6yr No. The price of tomatoes will go up next week.

John Timaeus Jul 15

And the reason we buy fresh tomatoes from elsewhere is because of seasons. I can make fresh Arkansas tomatoes about 120 days a year.
But you aren't getting a fresh tomato in February from anywhere in Conus that isn't an enclosed building with added heat and/or light.

@johntimaeus Yep... global market, rotating supply depending on year. But these folks don't understand (or care).

Roger Moore Jul 15

@johntimaeus @ai6yr
There are a few places in the far south of CONUS where you can grow tomatoes outdoors in the winter. My local farmers market has them from the Coachella valley in Southern California. It's not even close to enough to feed the whole country's demand, though.

Kevin Russell Jul 15

One not really funny part of this is how AP puts these stories to every news service. "Hoping to increase tomato production..."

LA LA LA

StarkRG Jul 15

@ai6yr It makes me think that, perhaps, the reduction in food supply is the desired effect, not a side effect. Nothing gets people ignoring widespread social issues like a famine.

Roger Moore Jul 15

@StarkRG @ai6yr
We're unlikely to have a famine. Hand labor is mostly needed to harvest fruits and vegetables, and to butcher meat. Meanwhile, grains and oil crops will stay cheap because they're mostly mechanized. IOW, it's exactly what MAHA should be fighting against.