This headline is ridiculous. The US is currently cracking down on the people who harvest US tomatoes and sending them to a swamp concentration camp with no representation and due process, and publicly hoping people get eaten by alligators.

#politics

@ai6yr

meanwhile California's tomato harvest rots bc they've raided the fields....

I feel like screaming

@cynthiarose @ai6yr

I kind of wonder if the Trump regime is taking lessons from Netanyahu about how to starve a population.

(It is slightly more correct to refer to both governments by using the same type of name)

@alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr Israel and Russia.

Thanks. the three of you for the reminder of what Deadly Exchange looks like.

https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/deadly-exchange

#FediAntisemitism

@Avitus @alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr

Deadly Exchange | #TranslateHate

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@serge

It's not anti-semitic to describe that the various international right wing movements cooperate and learn from each other.

And it's not like Netanyahu and his coalition invented intentionally causing a famine to kill off a local population. There's plenty of other examples throughout history.

There is plenty of documentation that there is a famine in Gaza, and that factions of Israel are the ones intentionally maintaining the blockade of food and critical supplies from reaching Gaza that are causing this famine.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165383

It is pessimistic of me to think that Stephan Miller hates Hispanics so badly he would trigger widespread hunger in Los Angeles. But kidnapping farm workers and deploying troops does look like a first step of an occupation.

So maybe it'd be less Gaza and more Sarajevo, but that 1992 event has been long forgotten by most.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sarajevo

No fuel, no aid, no escape: UN agencies warn of looming collapse in Gaza

The fuel crisis in Gaza has reached a breaking point, threatening to bring all humanitarian operations to a halt and endangering the lives of everyone reliant on aid inside the enclave, UN agencies warned in a powerful joint statement on Saturday.

UN News

@serge @Avitus @alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr
That page makes no sense. It takes multiple different claims, and somehow concludes that they are all the same and ergo antisemitic:

1) Israeli training is responsible for US police brutality. (This is a gross mischaracterization of statements made by Jewish Voice for Peace. And obviously US cops don't need any help when it comes to being racist or brutal.)

2) US-Israeli joint military training makes both countries more racist and fascist. (How is this statement antisemitic? Fascists encourage each other, as always.)

3) Accusing Israel of murdering children is antisemitic. (It's a statement of fact that Israel indiscriminately kills massive amounts of Palestinian children and is in the midst of deliberately starving the rest.)

4) It's scapegoating to accuse Israel of complicity in US cops murdering Black people. (Well, no it's not scapegoating if the US cops actually doing it are blamed too. And again, this is a very "creative" interpretation of what was actually said by JVP.)

That page is as logically incoherent and full of false equivalencies as the rest of New Antisemitism.

@alienghic Could be. Yahu would starve Israelis, if it fed into his fantasy. @cynthiarose @ai6yr

@alienghic @cynthiarose @ai6yr oh no, that's silly. He's taking lessons from Pol Pot and Mao.

"It's gonna be a GREAT leap people, THE GREATEST leap ANYONE HAS EVER SEEN! We're going to leap back to when America was great. So many people will cry when they see what we're doing with this country."

@Hex @cynthiarose @ai6yr

Yeah the attacks on universities do remind me of that old time cultural revolution

@cynthiarose @ai6yr
Another reason to shop at the farmer's market.
@Darkphoenix @cynthiarose Alas, the same workers who pick the fruit for farmer's markets are the same ones being whisked away by masked ICE vehicles.
@Darkphoenix @cynthiarose @ai6yr my farmers market hasn't yet had a real tomato crop this summer..

@ai6yr
AND
it's f'ing mid July
IT'S TOO LATE NOW TO BOOST PRODUCTION!!!

somebody just wanted to dump their hunts/del monte stock because the stupid is so thick you can stand a spoon up in it.

should have ICE agents go pick vegetables instead of harassing the people that do
@ai6yr a lot of tomatoes are rotting in the fields right now due to short handedness on some farms
@ai6yr @cookiesinheaven They're too disconnected from food production to understand. :/
@ai6yr Gods below, these people know nothing about tomatoes. Cruelty and incompetence.
@ai6yr Yeah good luck to them trying to lure affluent white people into the fields to pick tomatoes for minimum wage (or worse) in brutal conditions all day
@thegardendude @ai6yr In high school my wife and her friends thought picking corn would be a great way to get paid to get a tan. They lasted two weeks.
@chrisod @thegardendude @ai6yr Corn harvesting has been mechanized for decades. If they lasted two weeks that's impressive

@chrisod @thegardendude @ai6yr

My gf's little brother picked tomatoes. He lasted less than a week.

He was good at the beginning:

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=y1dQazDYgag

@Uair @chrisod @thegardendude LOL on that comedy bit. Which is so true. All the people I have ever heard about immigrants taking jobs won't even get off the couch, much less do hard manual labor.
@ai6yr
These fuckers are trying to make me boycott tomatoes
@RnDanger @ai6yr you won't be able to buy any soon so it won't matter
@ai6yr they want to starve and bankrupt us
@ai6yr
You can't solve fascism with money.

@ai6yr US cuts off chips to China. Chinese government sets a goal to produce them domestically, then develops a plan and supplies the resources to make it happen.

US government plan when faced with a self-created shortage, cut off external supply and hope capitalist forces correct the problem. Any suffering caused waiting for that to happen is a price they are willing to let us pay.

@Fat_Farang @ai6yr What do you mean, “Apple can’t setup an entire supply chain from dirt to iPhone between now and the beginning of August!?” They’re Americans, goddamnit!
@ai6yr
Here's to our government-imposed tomato-free summer.

@ai6yr I truly wonder what this administration is trying to accomplish.

Hanlon’s Razor suggests that the motivation behind these stupid decisions lies somewhere between incompetence and magical thinking, based on nothing more than what plays well on conservative TV and talk circuits.

I think this administration is staffed by deeply racist and ignorant people who have escaped consequences all their lives, and expect to continue to do so no matter their actions.

@drahardja @ai6yr perhaps some of that is going on, but imho Miller and his ilk know exactly what they are doing and are relishing in the cruelty.

@numbercrow @ai6yr I think there are two groups that are actually intentional in their actions: the Steven Miller and Peter Thiel types who want to go back to subjugation and slavery, because they are truly ghouls who want to implement an iron rule of a “superior” few; and the industry titan types who have no values beyond wanting to transfer as much wealth as possible from the public to the industries they occupy while the going is good (I include Elon in this group).

But I also think these groups are TINY compared to the army of middle-managers who have been put into positions where they can actually make decisions and implement rules every day. Those people think they can profit solely through loyalty and proximity; they have no hope of being *actually* part of the groups above. This majority appears to be quite stupid and incompetent, to the point of self-harm, because they think they can outrun reality.

@drahardja it is my conviction that this has always been true of the vast majority of middle managers - a basically useless layer of bad mayo between the meat and the bread.
@drahardja @numbercrow @ai6yr basically this. You have clearly nazis, who want to do ethnic cleansing, tech bros who just want to use access to reprogram everything, your regular old nazis that still want racism via law, and tons, tons of dumb opportunists who most likely start to wonder if they have made a deal with devil they can't walk away from.
None of them are smart, but they don't need to be - they enjoy being ruthless, cruel and country struggling to respond.
@ai6yr The tomatoes that *can* be harvested mechanically are what we used to affectionately call "Davis square tomatoes" up north—unpalatable fruit suitable for processing into red paste. Watch for TV adverts touting new tomato paste and ketchup brands sporting the American flag. 🍝🇺🇲

@ai6yr

Considering just how obviously destructive DOGE has been, I am convinced that this dismantling of the agricultural system is also intentional. They want rotting crops. They know they can afford the price inflation; this is all to crush the rest of us.

@ai6yr The beatings of economy will continue until economy improves.

@ai6yr

Waiting for all the techbros to start working picking tomatoes, I guess. Kind of hard to boost US production when you keep arresting the workers and putting them in concentration camps, with no hope of due process or release.

@PandaChronicle @ai6yr And we (aging techies) value people, capital, and goods being able to move easily. I think some tech leaders think they can influence Trump because he's transactional without a strong ideology, and apparently fascism is not a deal breaker for them.

I think they're getting played.

@PandaChronicle @ai6yr

#Robots

$150,000 and they can work 7/24 picking tomatoes, red balls, human hearts.

#efficiency

@ai6yr Does anyone know anyone in the USA who has been recently hired at a farm due to a shortage of immigrant haresting workers?
@RueNahcMohr @ai6yr No. The price of tomatoes will go up next week.

@ai6yr

And the reason we buy fresh tomatoes from elsewhere is because of seasons. I can make fresh Arkansas tomatoes about 120 days a year.
But you aren't getting a fresh tomato in February from anywhere in Conus that isn't an enclosed building with added heat and/or light.

@johntimaeus Yep... global market, rotating supply depending on year. But these folks don't understand (or care).
@johntimaeus @ai6yr
There are a few places in the far south of CONUS where you can grow tomatoes outdoors in the winter. My local farmers market has them from the Coachella valley in Southern California. It's not even close to enough to feed the whole country's demand, though.

@ai6yr

One not really funny part of this is how AP puts these stories to every news service. "Hoping to increase tomato production..."

LA LA LA

@ai6yr It makes me think that, perhaps, the reduction in food supply is the desired effect, not a side effect. Nothing gets people ignoring widespread social issues like a famine.
@StarkRG @ai6yr
We're unlikely to have a famine. Hand labor is mostly needed to harvest fruits and vegetables, and to butcher meat. Meanwhile, grains and oil crops will stay cheap because they're mostly mechanized. IOW, it's exactly what MAHA should be fighting against.