A strong statement of resistance to the relentless marketing of "AI" in education spaces. I encourage all educators to have a look and consider signing on:
A strong statement of resistance to the relentless marketing of "AI" in education spaces. I encourage all educators to have a look and consider signing on:
@olberger As I can see, it is anonymous. Only the people who signed it in public are at the right side with their places and full names. That's weird ...
I don't know why you're so negative on this. Most people in the workplace drink alcohol. Some do it at lunchtime and during the working day, others just in evenings. It's an inevitable part of the world of work. If you're not day drinking, you're going to be left behind.
The job of schooling is to prepare people for this world, so you really should serve beer in the classroom. Now, I know you're going to say that excess alcohol consumption is linked to cognitive decline, but that's just the cost you have to accept for staying on top of the latest workforce trends. People straight out of school are going to be starting at companies where day drinking is just an accepted part of productive work and if they haven't already built a high alcohol tolerance then they're going to be left behind.
Face it, day drinking is inevitable.
Oh, sorry, you were talking about GenAI? I was thinking of something else.
@david_chisnall @oberman @emilymbender Irony that hits strongly! I had a long discussion over alcohol use during work hours with a couple academics last behavior genetics association meeting. One of them was Nordic, I am Brazilian and never understood why alcohol is accepted in the scientific work environment. If you don't know, Brazilians drink hard but never at work.
They both normalized the practice, the American found the behavior desirable somehow. (1/2)
But none of this is related to this thread or with original post.LOL.
I am terrified of the idea of science being done by intoxicated scientists, the consequences to students or even what that means for the research itself. (2/2)
#AI haters ("safety," "risk," "governance," etc) don't realize Malthusian, Neo-Luddite doomsaying isn't news. Only the nouns have changed from every other disruptive #technology in #history. Yet here we are with longer lives despite ourselves. #NotThatSmart #AIforGood
@emilianosandri @emilymbender @_elena We still have those in my school. They were actually somewhat useful for a time. But then we moved to chromebooks, and there is no software support for them there. And somewhat useful wasn't enough to justify replacement with new, still-supported models.
It was really just maths teachers who liked them. And still do, when the decade-old things can be coaxed into working on an unsupported platform.
AI is brain rot combined with the worst aspects of manipulative advertising, funded disinformation by the rich, fossil fuel funded fascist propaganda, malware, state surveillance platforms, and spyware.
The source of investment alone should be ringing alarm bells. The most repressive billionaires on the planet are funding AI.
https://fortune.com/2025/07/10/elon-musk-xai-grok-tesla-optimus-mankind-humanity-robots/
Saudi Arabia is planning a new artificial intelligence project with backing of as much as $100 billion as it seeks to develop a technological hub to rival the neighboring United Arab Emirates, people familiar with the matter said.
On September 1, 2025, Estonia will launch the TI-Hüpe (AI- Leap) educational program in partnership between both the public and private sectors, The program will provide Estonian school students and teachers with free access to AI learning applications and has an annual budget of €6.5 million.
@emilymbender
And it's not like this will be some home-grown LLMs developed by Estonians for Estonians. The president specifically compared this "leap" to Estonia's digital transformation, which was a comparatively sovereign, in-house development, founded on open standards and at least partially open source.
This AI "project" amounts to "let's pay Altman a ton of money and export our student's data and conversations to the US"
https://news.err.ee/1609723875/estonia-to-introduce-ai-model-in-high-schools-this-fall
Starting this fall, the state will introduce an artificial intelligence model in upper secondary school classes aimed at supporting learning without providing students with ready-made answers. However, the exact model has not yet been developed and the first year will serve as a test period.
Petitions are worse than not doing anything as they give you an illusion of action.
Politicians largely ignore petitions.
@raycorrigan this isn't a ban but a commitment not to use or promote.
Also I can't tell if you know that that's my book you're talking about.
@raycorrigan @emilymbender sounds like inevitabilism. Be careful of believing that framing, it’s spread precisely to dismiss opposition like this.
Have you ever argued with someone who is seriously good at debating? I have. It sucks. You’re constantly thrown off-balance, responding to a point you didn’t expect to. You find yourself defending the weak edges of your argument, while the main thrust gets left behind in the back-and-forth, and you end up losing momentum, confidence, and ultimately, the argument. One of my close friends won international debate competitions for fun while we were at university (he’s now a successful criminal barrister), and he told me that the only trick in the book, once you boil it all down, is to make sure the conversation is framed in your terms. Once that happens, it’s all over bar the shouting.