Pretty good description on offices.

#work #religion

The secret life of the office:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S6RCKPY32Lg

The history of the office from a 90s perspective, cw: its from the 90s...

#office

The Secret Life of the Office - Remastered

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@wmd just found out this video and the "chaotic good" in both our profiles so hey, hello and also : yes. bye now

I was familiar with "bullshit jobs" as a term and book, but only now reading it. This video fits very well.

#bullshitjobs #davidgraeber #books #economy

@wmd I was listening to some Boards of Canada in the background, so this sounded twoplussurreal.

@wmd β€œWhat the F do you do at an office job?

Right, so a lot of people are confused about what an office actually is. Some people have this misconception that offices like function or like produce something. That's a common misunderstanding. They're actually religious building. There's this religion called professionalism and one of its core tenets is hierarchy. So an office is just a shrine to hierarchy. Here are things about like a mission or a vision or a goal. These are not real. The actual purpose of being in an office is to like demonstrate that, you know, this form of worship. So it's a polytheistic religion. It's a little complicated.

The gods in professionalism are companies, which are non-human deities that sometimes take human form as these things called C-levels. So that's basically like a high priest to this deity, right? So that's at the top is the C-level. It might be a CEO, CFO, whatever. And they don't really do anything. Their purpose is to just like physically be there. Like the temple is just a place for them to waft around.

So their immediate sort of servants are called managers. And these people, their job is to kind of observe the lower ranks and make sure that those people are doing their jobs. The thing is the managers don't know how to do any of those jobs. So they can't actually tell if anybody is doing their job. It's mostly a ceremonial role. And they do perform ceremonies. One of them is called the one-on-one. This is where the manager sits down with the worker and the worker kind of reads off a list of everything they weren't able to do because it was impossible. And then the manager will quote the Holy Scripture. It'll be something like, "I would love to see a more flexible mindset about what is possible." It doesn't have to make sense. It's traditional.

So below them are the specialized workers. And these people kind of have a job. Like there's a thing that definitely does or doesn't happen that is their responsibility. This might be like an IT person or like a researcher or like a UX designer. But because managers obviously don't know how to assess whether that work was done, really the function of workers is to bear witness to the space. So like you're supposed to be physically present for a certain amount of time. You have to wear like special regalia that is compliant within the tenets of professionalism. And then you usually have to assume this like meditative pose where you're behind a desk and staring at a screen. But it doesn't matter what you're doing. during that time you can just you can just play dwarf fortress and that's fine.

And then on the bottom of the hierarchy you have the office bitch this is sometimes called an office assistant or an intern this is the closest you'll get in an office to like a person who has an actual job they do with their hands in the mornings you'll like make sure that the coffee machines have paper and ink and make sure the coffee is made you'll spend most of your day like running around the building moving objects around like this binder goes over here and this chair goes over here sometimes you'll go out into the village and pick up people's like food or paperwork from all of periodically give offerings to the sea levels that are called email. There's no evidence that anything actually happens when you do this, it's just like an exercise of faith.

But it works, like money comes out, so.”

@wmd Thanks for shring that on mastodon!
@wmd Please do stay for the #DwarfFortress cameo!
@wmd she forgot about the agile manifesto. And the scrum ceremonies. Like the daily stand up, refinement, retrospective, plannings meeting/poker meeting, demo meeting. Etc.
@melroy she provides a generic overview. Different denominations have their own specific rituals. Bit too much to get into for a short video.
@wmd I understand you but it would have fit very well with the one on one ritual πŸ˜‚
@melroy @wmd Yep I know that one - hierarchies not so much. But flat organisations are a cultural thing in Scandinavia πŸ˜‰
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Pretty much a description of our previous job at Regionen @allan_christoffersen πŸ˜† Maybe except that they had dismissed most Office Assistants to save money.
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Qp @wmd how can i download a video on masto edit : in a navigator edit 2 : on a smartphone ?
@ciredutempsEsme in tusky if I click on it I get a download option in the top right.
@ciredutempsEsme @wmd On firefox (desktop), when I right click the video I get 'save video in...' option
@ciredutempsEsme @wmd Same on firefox on smartphone (long press on video)
@wmd She didn't get into the sacrifices part! When bad things happen because the C-Suit or managers screw up, the workers will be the ones sacrificed or excomunicated (get rid of in whatever way is legal in your country).
@wmd @prk omg this is so amazing. Such analysis. Chef kiss.
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I think she is confusing an office with management. Management exists in an office but there are other things happening there as well.
Well usually , in Australia, the USA may be different.
@Steveg58 I would say in europe an office is also typically a shrine to "professionalism (tm)" which tends to come with some kind of priests, often called managers, but sometimes they'll use slightly different terms like circle lead or product owner, it doesn't really matter much.
@Steveg58 @wmd A lot of offices do technically do things that serve the purpose of the company, but whether that actually translates into anything useful depends very much on the company!
@wmd this has me howling. no notes
@wmd David Graeber - Bullshit Jobs (Colourized, 2025)
@wmd this reminded me of David Graeber's book, Bullshit Jobs. He writes about how many jobs do nothing, or are even harmful, and how managers like to surround themselves with many useless people just like medieval lords had their retinues and cupbearers - for status.
@metalfabs ah ok, I was maybe wondering if you we're trying to say it comes from there. It was a bit cryptic. :)

@metalfabs

I saw that recommendation for David Graeber's book "Bullshit Jobs" earlier last week, so I've picked it up from the library.

Book starts off with a bang, recounting the essay that he wrote for a magazine around 2015, and the essay went viral. Very engaging.

@wmd

@wmd as a non-office lab scientist, this is weirding me out
@wmd That's spot on. I'm one of the people with an actual job (like certain things will not happen if I don't do my job, like products can not be launched or what have you) but sadly hardly anybody at my place of wor(k)ship knows how I do whatever I do so people are forever confused about what to talk about with me or how to evaluate my work. But money comes out, so it works for me.
@wmd I took it as a joke, I showed it to a couple of people .. one of them told me "almost all companies where I did work were more or less like this and they all went bust". I have to say the company I did work before wasn't like that UNTIL .. they started making some 'quite big money' and wanted to EXPAND .. then we started to have N managers that in fact "did not understand what we were doing" and YES they were quoting the scriptures .. and YES .. the company in the end went bankrupt ..

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100 years from now (of humans exist) this is how they see our current generations.

And they sigh, and call as dumb, whine our ancient spirits go "yup."

@wmd ok so as an office worker myself this is just fully true, not even a joke πŸ˜…
@wmd And she didn't even get into the offices that turn full cult. With their "family" mindset to brainwash you into doing more things and sacrificing more of yourself at your own cost.

@wmd Things in the office.

(When I'm not in office, I do non-office things or I don't do office things, take your pick.)

@wmd I would die if I had to work in an office like that lel

@darkwiiplayer yeah, it is very common though and yes we live in a pretty horrid world.

It's the whole topic of the book bullshit jobs.