Mastodawn

https://signal.art/addstickers/#pack_id=43a9c3e16e24b2f182e2d3e03a7e1338&pack_key=87a129905fbe7371568eef6485f93a81b7569a963bf711063bf804123a075083

Syd

@Mastodon really cool! You should put it in an online shop as real stickers XD @dopatwo @signalapp

Mastodon Jun 26

I'm sure promoting the centralized @signalapp will never come back to bite @Mastodon in the ass.

@dopatwo

Ted Jun 26

@ondra @dopatwo
Have fun with "Unable to decrypt message"

@ondra @dopatwo @signalapp @Mastodon

100%/0% TAX ✅ ✅Jun 26

Always depends on who you are asking.

Also in the future who knows which service/-s will implement Signal protocols into some fediverse compliant software that a lot of people might be using.

Trying to tell people what's gonna happen in the future is like being on thin ice...one's promises may break at any given moment due to an extremely complex world.

Signal got issues, but we seek out the lesser evil...always...

#Complexity #Hypotheticals #LesserEvil

Daniel Ares Jun 26

@ondra @Mastodon @signalapp @dopatwo I find it a bit funny how "decentralization" became the buzzword on the Fediverse, just like the techbros on X or Linkedin do it with AI or blockchain. There's a reason and a market for products with decentralization or AI and without it. It's good to have alternatives. None of those features solve all problems.

@daniel Agree that decentralization isn't always necessary (or good even) and that it's better to have alternatives. It's just weird to see @Mastodon who's basically whole raison d'être is decentralization, promote @signalapp.
Centralized communication service is not as resilient, creates incredibly valuable target etc. It's just a matter of time.
I find it similarly funny to see people throw around privacy as a buzzword without any regard for freedom (of choice, repair etc.), BTW.

@dopatwo

Ted Jun 26

@ondra @daniel @Mastodon @signalapp @dopatwo Signal is the gold-standard in E2EE messaging. Decentralized chat apps have proven to be buggy and unreliable over and over again. There's a reason "Unable to decrypt message" is a meme.

Until a decentralized chat app can be as stable, secure, and easy-to-use as Signal, there's no reason to bash others for recommending a centralized chat app.

@tedstechtips Sure, but that @signalapp is currently the best option for many doesn't mean it's perfect and people can't point out its flaws. @daniel @Mastodon

Bluewall Jun 26

@ondra @tedstechtips @signalapp @daniel @Mastodon Not being "decentralized" is not a flaw. Same shit as people saying only open source stuff is worth it.

Daniel Ares Jun 26

@ondra I think you're reading too much into it. They're promoting the stickers and not the app. Probably mainly because there is already a large overlap of users. Do the decentralised alternatives even support stickers?

Killab33z O.G.

@ondra @dopatwo @signalapp @Mastodon if you're required to use a phone number to use a service and you're not permitted to run your own server to integrate on the same network, then why promote a centralized walled garden; & they have their own cryptocurrency they did not want to tell anyone about until it was completely integrated into the codebase which they weren't publicly publishing those code changes (no transparency!). What could go wrong with such a service?

Bluewall Jun 26

@ondra Oh my god not EVERYTHING NEEDS to be decentralized. Signal is an awesome product.

@Bluewall As long as you have a phone number, smartphone with Android or iOS, it isn't blocked in your country etc.

Bluewall Jun 26

@ondra Signal does have a proxy parameter for that.
I don't understand your vandetta against Signal tbh.
Mastodon is promoting a free, open source top to bottom, secure and privacy oriented messaging solution. I don't see ANYTHING wrong with that.

mystie

🌸Jun 26

@ondra @dopatwo @signalapp @Mastodon damn, you people will always find something to get mad about

slonk "Have you tried Logseq?" zoid Jun 26

@mystie @Mastodon @signalapp @ondra @dopatwo firstname lastname

lennyuncle Jul 1

@ondra @dopatwo @signalapp @Mastodon oh what a rules do you got for replying to you. Do I also need to call you a Sir?

Eric Draven Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp
[x] done 😎

richarddebruin Jun 26

@Mastodon Awesome 🤩

Lena Riess 📚💚🤍Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp Very nice. Installed.

Marcel Bootsman Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp cool!

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp @ce418

Loutopiste Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp

windy_hill Jun 26

Awesone 😎 - installed

Ville 'cos' R Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp that's a bit weird promotion. Shoudn't you ❤️ Matrix instead for obvious reasons?

Eugen Rochko Jun 26

@cos @Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp Does Matrix have stickers?

Ville 'cos' R Jun 26

@Gargron @Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp never used them but: https://matrix.squirrel.rocks/stickers/create

Creating Matrix Sticker Packs

Eugen Rochko Jun 26

@cos @Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp It says they're not usable by the flagship client. Sounds like stickers are still a spec proposal open since 2020.

Nafeon Jun 26

@Gargron @cos

Yes the spec is still open there are 2 different ways how to add stickers. One for element and schildi and one for the other clients, but it is missing a singular way.

The whole furry fandom is currently not able to move to matrix because of that single issue, but it is a real issue.

@Mastodon @dopatwo

ciara Jun 26

@Gargron @cos @Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp yes and no, there’s multiple standards and multiple different client implementations

⁂ Kyva

@cos @Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp Matrix is problematic for obvios reasons too, but I would use them in xmpp.

Onno Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp Ohhh awesome!

I would like to have it for Threema and Matrix...

xirah Jun 26

@rumo @Mastodon Threema would awesome! What say you, @threemaapp ?

rugk Jun 27

@frauxirah
#Threema does not have stickers.
@rumo @Mastodon @threemaapp

xirah Jun 27

@rugk @rumo @Mastodon @threemaapp And all things are immutable thus Threema must remain stickerless, alas.

Amber Grey Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp so cute!!!

Romy Ilano Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp so cute

⁂ Kyva

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp nice, this breaks my Signal Desktop app (in Manjaro)

Andy Piper Jun 26

@kyva @Mastodon @signalapp @dopatwo weird, it works ok for me on Fedora.

ThePfromtheO Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp
Good…
I can't use them, as I switched from #SignalApp.
But that's it: I can't give up my peace of mind :)

Nordnick 🐘Jun 26

@Mastodon

Is this sticker pack also available for other uses? E.g. as custom emojis for a #Fediverse instance or as graphics for websites?

@nick @Mastodon @signalapp @dopatwo yes pls, will be helpful to have a link to download them outside Signal. I will like to import them in xmpp.

Andy Piper Jun 26

@kyva @nick no plans for this at the moment but I hear and see the request, so we will see what we can do.

rugk Jun 27

@andypiper
Just publish them on https://signalstickers.org/

You can download individual images there, too.
@kyva @nick

Signal Stickers

Community-organized gallery of sticker packs for Signal. Browse more than 6500 stickers, and propose your own!

Andy Piper Jun 26

@nick right now this is a sticker pack for Signal, not for other platforms. Thanks for asking.

Syd Jun 26

@Mastodon really cool! You should put it in an online shop as real stickers XD @dopatwo @signalapp

Enadia Jun 26

@Mastodon cute but I don't unverstand the tooth thing ...

Eugen Rochko Jun 26

@Enadia @Mastodon What tooth thing?

nitsa

@Gargron @Mastodon I believe @Enadia is referring to the mascot's tusk.

Erik Uden 🍑Jun 26

@Mastodon I absolutely love this,,,

Bjarne Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo I like this alot!

@signalapp doesn't have enough original or even unoriginal stickerpacks. #makeprivacystick

Mike Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp
I've decided to pull my personal data out of services in dictatorships as much as possible.
So no Signal for me.

#Threema is European, btw. 😉

#trump #USAdios

desirable_dialogue Jun 26

@Klimakipppunkt @signalapp
threema is hosting fascists btw and is actively promoting their service to police and military.

Mike Jun 26

@desirable_dialogue
details?

Nick

Jun 27

@Klimakipppunkt probably Threema Work.
#Matrix is used by the German #Bundeswehr, and #XMPP by the German #police btw.
Also Threema can see who writes who, while Signal technically cant, even if US based, sure there are other attackvectors, like via Cloudflare but one would have to trust Threema more than Signal.
Also #Threema doesnt have #PostQuantumEncryption as of now.
#SimpleX would potentially tick all the boxes, but it's still a bit small.
@desirable_dialogue

Hugh 🚐 WHY 📞 4844 Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp These would make awesome custom Mastodon & Slack emoji; just saying

EVHaste Jun 26

@Mastodon @dopatwo @signalapp these are really cute!

I will say that the quivering effect on the resharing sticker (which I assume is meant to represent the mascot hitting the desk so hard) does make me feel a little queasy to watch, as if it were strobing. But it’s still quite adorable so I’ll probably use it anyway