Can someone explain this whole #XLibre thing and what’s up with #XOrg?

Thanks in advance.

#Linux #Tech #Technology #X11

@mrmasterkeyboard sounds like some folks who don't want to admit #Xorg is dead and #Wayland is the way to move forward.

  • Kinda like folks stubbornly opposing #SystemD for no good reason.

#sarcasm #Linux #Xlibre

@kkarhan Basically, it’s just:

“Fuck you, let’s keep something completely outdated alive.”

On my main machine I use X11 as screensharing works but on Wayland it doesn’t. (It’s Gentoo, probably my fault why it doesn’t work.) I use Wayland elsewhere and it’s fine.

A lot of people I follow support XLibre which is concerning because of these:

“Together we'll make X great again!”, it’s anti-DEI stance and their whole thing against big tech… hosted on GitHub, owned by M$. 🤦

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@kkarhan and I assume the creator of XLibre is making up a conspiracy just to gain attention to the project claiming it’s not that people are adopting Wayland because it’s better but instead it’s because “big tech moles” are trying to defund and extinguish activity on XOrg.

Seriously, this is stupid. The creator had to have done something to violate the rules of the FreeDesktop Git to get purged, not just because he started XLibre and he’s covered it up.

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@kkarhan The creator of XLibre is not a great person and had bad faith intentions in the past, in one instance spreading anti-vax information (or at least vax misinformation) to the LKML in 2021 which got a response from Linus.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/957

If anything, this is the last person ANYONE should trust to be in control of an XOrg revival let alone a person to be trusted. Wayland is the way forward and people need to stop supporting XLibre because XOrg is dead anyways.

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LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off

@mrmasterkeyboard @kkarhan Is Enrico Weigelt, a moron.

@cesarpose @kkarhan Enrico is a huge moron, even bigger than Wheatley from Portal 2 and yet he almost destroyed an entire facility. I looked into why Enrico got banned.

Politicisation and criticism of XOrg from XLibre along with his garbage tier MR’s to XOrg caused it.

@mrmasterkeyboard @cesarpose Granted, the valid criticism ('There needs to be X11 releases cuz people tend to use git snapshots of the master branch out of desperation') gets completely drowned by him refusing to make an unstable / devtest branch and being an asshole to the same folks that hosted his fork for a short time and ranting nonsensical shite (about 'DEI is discrimination!')…

  • metux is primed to go full RMS and basically destroy any positive legacy of himself by virtue of giving everyone a finger, smoking tinfoil and then complain why noone's loving him!

https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114728168610571960

Kevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)

@cesarpose@infosec.exchange @mrmasterkeyboard@mastodon.social yeah, seen @BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social [covering](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k75A7Wne22w) the [whole](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCU4W5Ab33c) [shitshow](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jps3H-AVDlo)... - #Xlibre makes #hyprland look chill by comparison. For real, that guy is [smoking tinfoil](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCU4W5Ab33c&t=7m34s), not crack!

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@mrmasterkeyboard @cesarpose I mean, #Xorg - like #SysVinit - both have severe issues that just ain't gonna be addressable under reasonable expectations re: hardware support, compatibility and software support.

  • But there's a reason "Big Distros" and the community in general came to the conclusion that #Wayland and #SystemD are at worst 'necessary evils' and for the most part deliver a lot of quality-of-life features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo

There is no "#conspiracy" of #BigTech wanting to kill #X11 or even sabotage #Xlibre for that matter. It's just that some folks have trouble letting go and acknowledge that #Xserver is kept on "life support" as #Xwayland so people can run their 25+ year old #Windows games in #Wine without going apeshit.

  • I mean, ask @fuchsiii about that effort, where she's basically "workarounding" wine devs by literally pulling a "#Steam compatibility layer" kind of trick and swapping "good known working" Wine versions in just before launching a game because that works for setups where you have one user playing one game at a time on one machine and where shuffling around files/symlinks is possible.
The Tragedy of systemd

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@kkarhan @mrmasterkeyboard @fuchsiii I like things that work, and work well. Period.

@cesarpose @mrmasterkeyboard @fuchsiii that's why #XWayland exist: Allow people to continue using #Xorg applications until their maintainers did the necessary fixups so they work on #Wayland.

  • It's like #Wine+#DXVK / #Proton: A crutch that allows users to not be bothered or get angry at the wrong people and just have the cleanups being done in the background...

https://mastodon.social/@knoppix95/114716132087501705