Some of you protesting are far too into publicly posting identifiable pics and videos of folks in protest crowds without good reason.

If you brought a camera to the protest point it at the authorities, not your compatriots. Document and publicize incidents of abuse, but don't facilitate your fellow protestors being identified and punished for showing up. Assume every face you post will be recognized and catalogued. They're not there to be your photo op.

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@Rob_T_Firefly luckily no incidents of abuse. Those were the only cops at the protest. About 100 people. @mwl
@Rob_T_Firefly
To whom will the protestors deliver their message if they are unseen?

@midgephoto It's not about keeping anyone unseen. Protests are in many ways about being seen, there in the moment alongside their communities.

My post is about not being the person who posts the big face photo that gets used to bring unfair consequences upon someone exercising their human rights. Innocent protestors routinely risk unjust prosecution, firing, etc. attending stuff like this, don't be part of that. Better to watch the watchers than to do them massive favors with your photo ops.

@Rob_T_Firefly
There's a balance in there, somewhere.
It can be hard to find in advance.
An advantage to actual cameras, big ones, with long lenses, Vs smartphones, is that the scene may be more carefully selected, and that there is not an automatic upload to a big company's server.
@Rob_T_Firefly this is how they got the January 6 dumbasses, don't be a Jan 6 dumbass, be better...
@Vonskinnback @Rob_T_Firefly I wouldn't equate Jan 6 with the No Kings protest. What they did was an attack on democracy, not a protest. I plan to protest today, and I don't mind if my face will be recorded.
@Klaxun @Rob_T_Firefly you might not, but don't take away someone else's right to anonymity. Plus I'm definitely not equating the two, the January 6 arseholes were celebrating the end of democracy and their part in it, they paid for that hubris, I would expect the anti-fascist movement to have a little bit more sense & understanding, don't make it easy for the stupid people who will look to punish those who fight back against their tyranny. Be smart & see this through to victory...

@Klaxun
That's not what Baron said.

They identified and caught the J6 people through photos they posted on social media.

Don't think for a second that the government or its agents might not use the photos posted to social media to identify and target people.

THAT'S what Baron was talking about.

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@xinit @Klaxun @Rob_T_Firefly they already have meta & twitter in their pocket, not to mention apple & Google, topped off by Microsoft & Amazon AWS, they have the government data through Doge & Peter Theil is working on that as we speak, hiding what we do is going to take proper gorilla IT structures with people covertly operating & reporting what is happening from within those IT organisations, because once they find you, it won't matter if you have committed a crime or not...
@Rob_T_Firefly God this kind of "protest safety advice" is getting so irritating. If you are going to a publicly advertised protest, ASSUME it will be photographed by press, law enforcement and random people, extensively. Moralising about posting pics on social media does zero to improve anyone's safety. Absolutely zip.

@tomw "They're going to identify me anyway, so why not help the cops?"

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@xinit @Rob_T_Firefly You're attending a public peaceful protest. The cops are not looking for you. Get over yourself.

@tomw @Rob_T_Firefly I think protesters from Russia and Belarus will disagree with you. Cops here heavily using the photos from _peaceful_ protests (even from social networks) and face recognition to find and attack protesters _after_ the event. They ever send "covert agents" with cameras right to the crowd to make a photos of peoples' faces.

Latest events in the US reminds me a lot these events that happened here a lot of time ago. So, "better safe than sorry"πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

@tomw @Rob_T_Firefly If history copies itself then next stage – government funded gangs and martial arts sportsmens who will attack the protesters before, right in and after the event.

And a lot of swatting at night to terror the people and fine the caught folks with ridiculous charges and a big prison terms. And a laws which make protest illegal if it wasn't allowed by the authorities. Protests without allowance may happen only in "special places" like Death Valley where no one will see it

@evgandr @Rob_T_Firefly Yes, but even if you believe things are going to go fully authoritarian in that way, the authorities can and will take their own photos, as you point out. So "don't post photos" still does not protect anybody.

@Rob_T_Firefly
If you like playing with photos, sit around near the future likely sites of demonstrations*, and take some photos of bits of the scene, looking for pieces without people.
Then see if you can photograph, there or elsewhere, people you disapprove of.

Then put gaps where you don't want a demonstrator identified, and add people who would hate to be there.

For fun.

* We call that because sometimes protest doesn't entirely describe it, or because we are English, or something.

@Rob_T_Firefly And maybe also don't be auto-uploading those pics and videos to Meta and Google with exif location data, etc. Upload to a private nextcloud instance maybe, but probably best to not bring a phone at all. There will likely be stingers in use.
@Rob_T_Firefly Dumb take. Take photos, share them with friends, show that it's something normies should do too. If somebody was telling you how to protest you would probably tell them to STFU. Stop trying to dictate how people chose to participate.

@naodell @Rob_T_Firefly No, here in Russia, ppl had same thoughts a long time ago. You know how it ended...

https://mas.to/@evgandr/114684711416045684

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@[email protected] @[email protected] I think protesters from Russia and Belarus will disagree with you. Cops here heavily using the photos from _peaceful_ protests (even from social networks) and face recognition to find and attack protesters _after_ the event. They ever send "covert agents" with cameras right to the crowd to make a photos of peoples' faces. Latest events in the US reminds me a lot these events that happened here a lot of time ago. So, "better safe than sorry"πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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@Rob_T_Firefly I agree with the spirit of this, and it makes sense strategically.

(I've even tried to automate the process after the last protest I went to, with mixed results: https://fortyseven.github.io/blurryface/).

In fact, you reminded me of that with this before I left this morning; I actually picked up a 360 cam that I was going to bring to document the event, but I ended up leaving it home and just took some select pics.

But there's just SO many ordinary people there taking photos and video... Even at the one we had here in Middletown, CT, it was just wall to wall cameras and video. I don't think it's very effective to abstain from it . It's just inevitable.

But yeah, I know, we can at least try not to contribute.

Blurryface - Automatically blur faces in photos.

@Rob_T_Firefly This is a sad necessity but good advice

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As another poster recommends as well, red white & blue US flag face paint is not a bad idea at all. Same for clothing.

Make the stand for, and the fascist assault, on America obvious.

@Rob_T_Firefly The whole point of attending a public protest is to be seen in public protesting. Take my picture all day long.