Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 7 - 14 June - Rzeszów - Berlin - Köln - Bruxelles

Today's new borders:
None

Borders map, inc. borders re-crossed:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#12/52.3268/14.5754

Today's trains on the routes map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/51.307/13.173

A long way in a day - from Rzeszów in south eastern Poland, crossing Germany, to Bruxelles in Belgium. No new borders, but it will no doubt be an interesting day, not least to observe improvements to the rail infrastructure in southern Poland.

Here's today's #CrossBorderRail music track

Deutsche Bahn
Wise Guys

Not the greatest work of music, but it makes you laugh! And I no doubt will face some of the problems later!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjhszy2f9w

Wise Guys - Deutsche Bahn

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YouTube
And here's today's #CrossBorderRail intro video, filmed earlier in Rzeszów before boarding https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/kJ34epfrogPwsqvh3xcwFk
#CrossBorderRail live stream - 6/14/2025, 3:54:33 AM

PeerTube

#CrossBorderRail Finale Train 33 of 152
EC 56
06:10 Rzeszów Główny - Berlin Gesundbrunnen 15:13
PKP IC

Train type: Siemens EU44 Taurus locomotive, 8 carriages
⚡️ (3kV dc, 15kV ac)
🚲: ✅
🦽: ✅ (lift or ramp on board, not step free)
🛜: ⛔️ (installed but broken)
🍽️: ✅
🧳: 😐 (narrow doors and corridors, OK once inside)
🧽: 🙂

🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation for cross border section, costs €3 from ÖBB)

EC 56
06:10 Rzeszów Główny - Berlin Gesundbrunnen 15:13

Distance: 743.9km
Average speed: 82km/h

19 stops:
Dębica
Tarnów
Bochnia
Kraków Płaszów
Kraków Główny
Katowice
Zabrze
Gliwice
Kędzierzyn-Koźle
Opole Główne
Wrocław Główny
Legnica
Lubin
Głogów
Zielona Góra Główna
Rzepin
Frankfurt/Oder
Berlin Lichtenberg
Berlin Gesundbrunnen

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/51.179/18.273

Agggh, someone in the compartment is typing on their phone and with the tap-tap keyboard noise on, something I do not understand the purpose of.

Is is socially acceptable to ask the guy to set his phone to silent?

Also it's weird how irritating the tap-tap sound from a phone is, presumably because - unlike a physical keyboard where every sound is a fraction different, because it's physically generated - the sound of the phone "tap" noise is precisely identical each time.
When he got loads of notifications that then pinged very loudly, that was the moment to intervene 😀 Now all silent here, apart from light tapping on my MacBook Air physical keyboard!
Legnica - Zielona Góra - Rzepin is now the weak part of the Kraków - Berlin route. vMax just 120km/h, and infra obviously poorer quality. But given ongoing investment across Poland’s network this too will no doubt be improved soon.
🎉 I’ve not even got to Germany and DB has messed it up! German staff were delayed meaning we depart Rzepin (last Polish station) 15 mins late. And we’ve got the mess of Dobrindt’s illegal border controls to come…
Ah. No ethnic minority person in my compartment, so no passport check. Police just look. But - like in Kehl last week - the train waits in Frankfurt (Oder) while they do the illegal controls, so we accumulate more delay…

Jon 1 - 0 DB

No info whatsoever about connections in the EuroCity into Berlin

But a quick re-planning to change in Lichtenberg onto a S-Bahn rather than Gesundbrunnen onto a RE and I’ll get my connection at Hbf

Other passengers could have done likewise!

Ah

This ICE 554 Berlin - Köln had a strange timetable, and now I have - I think? - worked it out

It reverses in Hannover Hbf, and will go via Paderborn (not stopping) to Hagen

https://signal.eu.org/osm/#locs=52.524636,13.369861;52.378325,9.737835;52.342261,9.753113;51.717704,8.752653;50.942784,6.959071

What the hell for?

Railway Routing

So, assessments...

#CrossBorderRail Finale Train 34 of 152
S5
15:34 Berlin Lichtenberg - Berlin Hbf 15:54
DB S-Bahn Berlin

Train type: Adtranz, DWA 481/482 EMU, 4x 2 carriages
⚡️ (750V dc third rail)
🚲: ✅
🦽: ✅ (step free)
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔
🧳: 🙂 (lots of multi use spaces)️
🧽: 🙂 (clean by S-Bahn standards!)

🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

S5
15:34 Berlin Lichtenberg - Berlin Hbf 15:54

Distance: 9.9km
Average speed: 30km/h

9 stops:
Berlin Nöldnerplatz
Berlin Ostkreuz (S)
Berlin Warschauer Straße
Berlin Ostbahnhof (S)
Berlin Jannowitzbrücke
Berlin Alexanderplatz (S)
Berlin Hackescher Markt
Berlin Friedrichstraße (S)
Berlin Hbf (S-Bahn)

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#13/52.5138/13.4333

#CrossBorderRail 2025 Finale

The final big #CrossBorderRail tour - to the eastern borders of the EU, and missing intra-EU borders. In June-July 2025. Each day of the project is a Layer in the map - these should be displayed by default, or if not click the three layered diamonds icon "Open browser" to the left side of the map. The icons are all for borders, roughly coloured to differentiate the borders. A cross through a track means NO TRAINS CAN RUN. A cross through trains but not track means TRAINS CAN RUN BUT NO PASSENGER TRAINS. And TRAIN AND TRACK (no crosses) means there is a passenger service.

uMap

#CrossBorderRail Finale Train 35 of 152
ICE 554
16:08 Berlin Hbf - Köln Hbf 21:14
DB Fernverkehr

Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
⚡️ (15kV ac)
🚲: ⛔️ (thanks @f09fa681 for pointing out the error!)
🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
🛜: ✅
🍽️: ✅
🧳: 🙂 (well designed)️
🧽: 🙂

🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

ICE 554
16:08 Berlin Hbf - Köln Hbf 21:14

Distance: 571.6km (routing via Paderborn due to engineering works)
Average speed: 112km/h

6 stops:
Berlin Hbf
Berlin-Spandau
Hannover Hbf
Hagen Hbf
Wuppertal Hbf
Köln Hbf

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/51.779/10.197

#CrossBorderRail 2025 Finale

The final big #CrossBorderRail tour - to the eastern borders of the EU, and missing intra-EU borders. In June-July 2025. Each day of the project is a Layer in the map - these should be displayed by default, or if not click the three layered diamonds icon "Open browser" to the left side of the map. The icons are all for borders, roughly coloured to differentiate the borders. A cross through a track means NO TRAINS CAN RUN. A cross through trains but not track means TRAINS CAN RUN BUT NO PASSENGER TRAINS. And TRAIN AND TRACK (no crosses) means there is a passenger service.

uMap

Pfff...

ICE is 33 mins late currently, and I have 30 mins to connect in Köln with the last ICE to Bruxelles

And another ICE that is meant to connect with that Bruxelles train is 13 mins late, and has a 9 min connecting time

There must be enough of us on these two trains to hold it a few minutes...?

I am told DB now uses a data model to calculate this, not allowing train managers to ask for trains to be held. But as I am on Interrail I assume there's no data I even need the connection...

Also when I explained the predicament to the train manager, she rolled her eyes, as if "what, are you mad, you planned in only 30 minutes connecting in Köln"

"This isn't the last ICE to connect to the last Brussels train" I told her, there is one *after* this, with just 9 minutes to connect - I planned in extra!

Now going through the middle of this! ⛈️

Aaaand it looks like I will be spending the night in a hotel somewhere, or DB organises a taxi

The delay on my train has mounted, the connecting train is waiting a bit in Köln for some others (I presume the less delayed ICE 544) but not for my train (ICE 554)

I did the right thing - took the connection with the more generous changing time in Köln - and today that has backfired and left me stuck

So it’s RE train to Aachen and taxi to Bruxelles. ETA 01:30. DB staff member was a bit grumbly because I had Interrail but relented. And there’s one other passenger likewise going to Bruxelles.
@jon Did you have reservations for these trains, and if so did you buy them in one purchase? I’m curious on when this stuff works and not.
@stefanlindbohm DB. One reservation for all three trains. Proved I was telling the truth. Had I not had that I don’t know what the outcome would have been

@jon Ouff. Good thing that. In theory from what I understood, a chain of optional reservation trains on Interrail even without reservations (as long as not crossing borders) should count as a through-ticket. Lots of qualifiers and also like you say, good luck proving that 😬

Glad it worked out somehow for you anyway! Hope the rest works out well and you get to sleep soon.

@stefanlindbohm but as in so many cases in rail: this is a grey area. It depends on the employee.
@jon good luck with the RE1, it seemed quite full looking from the sbahn 🥴
@kadse yeah. It’s packed. And many are drunk!
@jon hehe, whatcha supposed to do in this weather anyways? :D
@kadse I’m glad they’re taking the train not driving 😀
@jon Oh, from personal experience: switch off any weather warning app (Nina, looking at you!) before you go into the Zone. I once startled my poor fellow passengers in an ICE car because apparently somewhere near the track there was a severe thunderstorm... 😀
@Torbencht We're well beyond the storm now 😀
@jon I do feel a bit sorry for those people having to dish out "our system was lying about being this being a feasible connection, we knew it almost definitely wouldn't work but we still lied about it" all day every day.
@benc Sure, the employees need a lot of patience. But also some decent decisions to occasionally hold trains would help too.
@jon would a combined seat reservation count as data 🤔
@maartje I have that at least, yes. It is damned well going to be used by me as data if DB has to give me a hotel voucher!

@jon replacing human decision with data is a bad idea especially on trains…

Guess DB Management thinks everyone just has a sparpreis… now I wonder if they use saves trips on DB navigator as data, if so we can build a connection guarantee army of robots 😂

@jon I've taken to making my seat reservation on that route via DB even though the ticket is an interrail pass, specifically so that my 'need' shows up in DB's data.

Side benefits are that it is cheaper and the DB app gives me progress reports etc.

@steely_glint @jon I thought you were required to use that special interrail reservation?

@poupou @jon I don't and no one seems to care. Hopefully I'm not doing it wrong.

For Eurostar I have to use interrail or SNCB, but the ICE's seem to work fine with a db seat only booking.

@steely_glint You're correct. You can reserve however you like, no need to use the Interrail reservation system. Rail Europe might be the cheapest for Eurostar reservations meanwhile, check them too. @poupou
@jon @steely_glint thank you and good to know!
@steely_glint You can get the updates in the app without reserving, but yes, if it's more than 1 train in Germany I reserve with DB as it's €5,90 for the whole chain. If it's one train I use ÖBB as it's €3 per train.
@jon hah, that's pro-level optimisation !
@jon @steely_glint oh. I never used that as I’ve been milking BahnComfort seats and just asking train managers to call about my connection when we were about to miss it 🤔 if they truly stopped doing that, I’ll have to rethink my system. Main thing is you don’t have a reservation anymore if you end up on a different train (eg the original train disappeared) and then the follow-up train takes a double load so is full and sells no reservations anymore. So I rarely find any use for them.
@Emiliagnathus @jon Yeah, although if I see a likely missed connection far enough ahead I sometimes speculatively book a seat on the later train too. (via the wifi on the late runner!)
@steely_glint @Emiliagnathus ha. Totally. I’ve done that too!
@jon Construction works between Hamm and Hannover with varying alternative routes.
@nordkommission But some things are getting through on the regular route?
@jon Actually at least every two hours, it would seem, with 01h15 travel time. Some were said to go the Osnabrück detour, some via Paderboring, but all in all so unplannable that even #Streckensammler would refrain.
@jon you must have been on the same platform as me at the same time at Berlin Hbf! (I was helping a Ukraine refugee family with the hilarity/chaos of DB summer mode, trying to get from Poland to Karlsruhe)
@benc I was at Gleis 8 Hbf tief for about 10 minutes indeed! And now I am stuck on the edge of Hannover...
@jon There were construction works on a bridge at Herford, which were finished last night at 23:00, I went through there on ICE 101 last night. However there are still other works between Wunstorf and Haste with only one track available, so some trains are still scheduled to go via Altenbeken. During the last few weeks these would've been going via Ahlem without having to change direction at Hannover, but there is yet another full line closure at Ahlem since 6:40 am today until the evening of 22/06.

@jon

Might be a bit chaotic right now. Berlin - Hamburg is closed atm.

@Michael yeah it’s a mess. Although I’m aiming for Köln.

@jon i am sure you saw this https://www.ft.com/content/6f719dcd-1df0-4b45-af3b-b08ff548537c (£)

totally bizarre that they think 1) spending billions to reduce delays on trains will keep out the far right and 2) spending tens/hundreds of millions to induce delays on trains will keep out the far right

maybe think is too strong a word

Germany puts rail first in €500bn investment spree

State-owned Deutsche Bahn expected to receive €10.5bn this year from newly established infrastructure fund

Financial Times
@bovine3dom @jon Do far-right people use trains? I had them down as weakly liberal to Tory in UK anyway. With the exception of the odd football match.

@annehargreaves i don't want to describe them as "far-right people" but people who vote for the far-right in Germany definitely take trains. In parts of the ex-GDR 40% of votes went to AfD https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-results-explained-in-graphics/a-71724186

@jon

@bovine3dom @jon Thanks. I wonder if the extremely expensive fares in UK makes a difference. Might exclude rank-and-file Reform supporters. I think the likes of Liz Truss hire a jet or have someone drive them.😉

@annehargreaves i don't have any data on it but my hunch would be that reform supporters are predominantly in the north and in the north of the UK trains are more of a theoretical construct than a useful form of public transport

the high fares are there to reduce overcrowding, fwiw, so they're more of a symptom of underinvestment and dysfunction than something that can be changed directly without causing other problems

@jon hope that this won't add 40 commemorial minutes for the area formerly known as Schengen

@jon It’s definitely a surprise to be seeing you passing through all around me these last few days/week

The Wroclaw-Berlin route historically used to be one of the fastest, but all Germany/Poland connections are so so these days

@scyzoryk Right, it was one of the best ones, but then they improved everything else *more*!

But at least Germany-Poland things are happening - Szczecin-Berlin is steadily being re-built, there are trains through Guben again, more EuroCity trains Poland to Berlin. Sure, we can do better still, but there is some progress!

@scyzoryk And I will be in Wroclaw on 4th October BTW, I am giving a speech on the Kulturzug Berlin-Wroclaw that day!
@jon I will be keeping an eye out for that!
@jon Meanwhile people are complaining about one direct Wrocław-Szczecin train being routed via Poznań when that's simply the faster route right now...
@jon Incidentally, Wrocław-Zielona Góra is a rare route where cross-region rail was straightened out recently, with through connections operated by KD between the two voivodeship capitals every couple of hours (but no Takt) that previously required changes in Głogów. While this is probably better than the original idea of reciprocal through running with Polregio in terms of passenger comfort, reading about it felt like watching ugly political empire-building