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Casey LissOld school Plex users, it looks like they're turning on the sell-your-data spigot. Opt out here:
Jerome (He/Him)@caseyliss Just waiting for the day they announce that the lifetime passes are void because they can’t put food on the table anymore
trisweb@jeromechoo @caseyliss Same. Luckily there are alternatives. I’m basically on plex just out of convenience and laziness at this point.
@trisweb @caseyliss yeah I don't have a lot going on with my single-user Plex instance and for the most part it just works.
@jeromechoo @caseyliss exactly. I’m a bit tied down as my immediate family uses it too to mooch off my media, but I’m sure they could migrate to Jellyfin easily enough. Someday I’ll give it a shot.
@trisweb @caseyliss like the cost of hard drives, jellyfin should only get better if I just wait 😂
Steven Garrity@caseyliss Along with the instability I've experienced in the iOS since the big update this year, I'm exploring alternatives.
James Thomson@caseyliss I found the options already switched off, thankfully.
Cesare Forelli@jamesthomson @caseyliss Me too, but at the bottom a couple were not checked, either Yes or No.
Geoffairey@jamesthomson @caseyliss maybe they learned finally to make this sort of crap opt in.
Jiji, the cat@jiji @jamesthomson @caseyliss No, it doesn’t. One of the biggest myths about GDPR is that companies need consent to process your data when It’s simply not true. They have to inform you if they are processing your data when they acquire it and give you the chance to object, but it doesn’t stop them gathering it in the first place.
And if they’re not an EU company, it only applies for services offered in the EU to those in the EU
@Geoffairey in this case plex *is* providing a service to users in the eu (and uk) and therefore needs to follow the gdpr. and i’m aware of article 6, but i though that ad tech for a paid service rarely falls under legitimate interest?
@jiji It very much depends on their Privacy Impact Assessment, and if applicable their DPIA.
Of course their assessment and that of a judge wouldn’t necessarily be the same, but the chance of them ending up in court is minimal.
@jiji @jamesthomson @caseyliss Marketing and Sales falls under a different law, but there’s not enough space in a toot to get into that.
Chris Poole@jamesthomson @caseyliss For me, most were too, but check the TCF Vendor ones at the bottom of that page. For me they were still on… feels like a sneaky anti-pattern given the “all off” at the top of the page.
Machiel@caseyliss EU: opted out by default💪
Michael Critz@caseyliss Thanks for that
Max Siegel@caseyliss Ew. Thanks for the heads up!
Miroslav Stankic@caseyliss that’s been there for ages.
The just try to make people click yes, again.
The just try to make people click yes, again.
Philipp@caseyliss it’s high time the alternatives of Plex play catch up. I don’t think we have much time left before this becomes unusable for us
Graeme K@caseyliss Thanks for that. Mine either defaulted to all no or I turned it all off so long ago I forgot I did.
Alex Mabe@caseyliss en💩fication intensifies
Matias Korhonen@caseyliss Oh good, they've made it super clear what these controls mean 😑
Torstein@caseyliss like you have heard so many times before from your followers and ATP fans, me included, Infuse is the way to go.
@torsteinv I tried it once and was not at all impressed.
Mikkel Yssen@caseyliss @torsteinv @infuse is my favorite player and manager of all time, supports all formats, and plays on all Apple devices, highly recommend!
@caseyliss what was its shortcomings? i don't remember if you have talked about it or not on atp. but perhaps try it again, if its been a while :) if not perhaps jellyfin like others have suggested is the way to go.
@torsteinv I didn’t care for the IA and, if I recall, it wouldn’t work for those that remote stream from me.
@caseyliss well, you could just set have them set up a vpn on their appletv, vpn into your network and from there stream to their respective infuse :) but you probably already considered this. IA?
@torsteinv Yeah no.
Information architecture
BoxOfRain
Hayley/Dragon🏳️⚧️@boxofrain @caseyliss @stuart Weirdly I already had “All No” selected, but it wouldn’t let me save to confirm … because like 3 line items were unchecked 🤷
The Animal and the MachineThank you @caseyliss for your public service.
John Tsombakos@caseyliss holy cats! That list of vendors is crazy long!
Tom Jacob@caseyliss alternative opt-out link: https://jellyfin.org
Craigosborne@caseyliss Plex just keeps getting worse. I need to look at Jellyfin again
Josh Rivers@Craigosborne @caseyliss Jellyfin is great. Jellyfin+Infuse is (mostly) an improvement over the tire fire of Plex. I like a lot about the Jellyfin GoogleTV client. But really, Swiftfin could use some love. We really need an A+ iOS/TVOS Jellyfin client (with support for transcoding and other nice things).
My point is: Jellyfin is pretty dang good…but what we need is developers (or money) to improve the clients. If we had that, nobody would ever look back.
Kevin Karhan 
@caseyliss or even better: Never agree to that shite, never use it and move to something better...
Roni Rolle Laukkarinen@caseyliss It seems I already had "All no" selected 👍
Edit: It seems, because I'm from Europe.
Edit: It seems, because I'm from Europe.
Geph, The Hobbyist@caseyliss I've finally taken the plunge and cancelled my yearly subscription and turned off the service on my server. Only got a few "Is Plex down?" texts so far. I've disagreed with their direction for years now, it feels good to finally get off of their platform before enshittification fully envelops this service too.
Jonathan Polley@caseyliss @aleen Money grab or non-viable business model?
Robert Jan Schutten@caseyliss Had to leave plex behind. Moved to Jellyfin. I have become mega allergic to all this shitty behavior of companies. Next step: I will have to become a recluse on a deserted island.
Kevin RussellThe only answer to the " opt in opt of AI scraping ask/threat/exposure" is neither yes or no, but uninstall.
Or sometimes, quitting.
AlDownunder@caseyliss opt out entirely and use #jellyfin 😁
JP Venson@aj @caseyliss can't opt-out on data collection with jellyfin ... because there isn't any. Saves on storage for us, saves on designing an opt out UI.
And well, privacy duh.^^
Johnny Rockets@caseyliss Plex has been on the #enshittification train for a while now.
Caleb@caseyliss Thank you for the heads up 🙏
I can only assume the folks recommended Jellyfin (or Emby) as a “viable” alternative have never used Plex before?
Tony Snyder@caseyliss (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻┻
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Jason Anthony Guy@caseyliss Was already opted out for selling personal data, but not for sharing personal info to random vendors.
☑️ All No
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Ben Stokman@caseyliss Plex needs to clarify their privacy policy not because they're trying to deceive us but because people don't understand this is exclusively for their free movies, shows, and TV channels.
Hunter King@caseyliss Like others, I thought that I had opted out when they put a notice up when I logged in. But scroll down a bit and there's a bunch. Pretty sneaky...
That said, I appreciate the transparency and ease of use once you get to this page.
Charlie R@caseyliss One more reason to try Jellyfin! It’s lovely
@caseyliss Thanks Casey. Mine was set as All No at the top of that page, but there are a couple towards the bottom which were still on. Sneaky sneaky…
Florian Taltavull@caseyliss Thanks for sharing!
Dennis Madrid@caseyliss Thank you for the heads up. That list of ad vendors is bananas! 😳
zıəs uɐɟəʇs ✪@caseyliss thanks a lot!
slp@caseyliss Thank you
Again, a class in dark patterns where “All No” doesn’t cover the specific vendors lower down in the page.