If a Muslim country had killed 54,000 Jews or Christian’s in a neighboring country and attempted to kill more with famine, I promise you, EU politicians would not just express disappointment.

They would act.

#Gaza

@randahl just like they should of have reacted to Russia and the Ukraine? Wake up.
@odeathoflife @randahl he IS awake. Someone talking about one thing doesn’t mean they’ve ignored every other thing.
@randahl probably not just the eu but the whole world would act as it did during the 'war on terror'

@randahl

Not that a religion should matter, but it's entirely overlooked by the media and by evangelical zionists that there are a lot of Palestinian christians in occupied Palestine.

It goes to show that zionism is a political movement that has absolutely nothing to do with religious convictions or "spiritual ties".

@contrasocial @randahl not an historian, but I believe that every fascism is driven by a murderous desire for homogeneity, which includes religion practice (when religion leaders are embedded in the state and not a competing power). Minorities that due to numbers are not a political or cultural threat can be temporarily tolerated until fascism is in power. In general a religion is tolerant by definition when it's a minority, while it is used as a criterion for diversity, discrimination, and ultimately genocide, when it becomes the norm in a fascist-turning state.
@contrasocial @randahl "those are martyrs" 🤷‍♂️
@randahl
The west would turn several cities into rubble for that.

@randahl Unless it was Saudi Arabia.

Not a peep about Saudi wars on Yemen, was there?

@randahl If anyone had killed even half that number of cats or dogs there would be global outrage. Arabs… not so much.

Europeans have decided that some people are just lesser. Usually people of a brown persuasion.

@Mogleg @randahl no one cared for these White Christians expelled by Muslims from their land : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_Nagorno-Karabakh_Armenians
Flight of Nagorno-Karabakh Armenians - Wikipedia

@bossito
Never underestimate the willingness of Europeans to consider other people “less white” 😊

Insert family guy whiteness meme here.
@randahl

@Mogleg Armenians are Europeans themselves so.. I'm not sure where you heading to. What's European for you? Seems like you're the one with the tightest definition

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@bossito
My point is that we Europeans will find ways of defining others as “not Europeans” when it’s expedient for whatever agenda we have. I’m not arguing for or against anyone being classified as anything, just pointing out the double standard at play 😊
@randahl
@Mogleg @randahl you're pointing out your conviction without providing much evidence. I just did that. Armenians, for years Ukrainians (before 2022), never got a fraction of the media attention Palestinians have on European media and politics. Other conflicts have even less, but it's mostly geography at play.

@bossito
According to the west: Russia invading bad, Ukraine resistance good. Zionist entity invading good, Palestinian resistance bad.

Ignore “volume” of reporting for a moment and consider quality. The Zionists can talk about feeling unsafe while committing genocide with the support of the west. The Palestinians have to condemn Hamas and are not trustworthy “Hamas controlled XYZ” etc.

Would you agree that there is a double standard?

@randahl

@Mogleg @randahl not surprising if you consider the political color of current european governments, the european economic and military relationships with USA (and Israel) and the anomalous position of Germany --- a key player in UE --- with Israel and genocides. Still, continuous protests pro-palestine are happening, mostly silenced on media, and violently managed by police.
@randahl Azerbaijan committed genocide in less than 48h in #NagornoKarabakh, a region multiple times bigger than Gaza. The Christian Armenian population there since centuries was either murdered, arrested or expelled by the Muslim Azeri army all in less than 48h. Absolutely no one cared, so much that you don't even know about it. This was in 19 September 2023. I don't even need to dig Yugoslavia examples that would also prove your post wrong.

@randahl not to mention the expulsion of thousands of Jews from Arab countries in the 50s and 60s, another genocide that no one seems to care. There were big Jewish community in Iraq, Syria, Marocco etc they're all gone. And also forgotten.

So yeah, the political alignment you see within Muslim countries when they have an issue with a non-Muslim does not exist in the Western-Christian world.

@bossito @randahl I think we can agree it's not a matter of religions per se, but of nation-states politics: state diplomacy is dictated by national economic and military concerns first, strongly influenced by the governing party/dictator narrative, ties, and interests. The governed population has varying capability of being informed, is not homogeneous in culture, values, political identification, and acting capabilities. Referring to christians, muslims, jews, europeans, is really nonsense, as we bunch together a wildly diverse set of people and conditions, and interests and values. Zionists* (to me christian USAns can be zionist) instead express a political project, so in their inner diversity they are still identified by a goal, which I can despise specifically without fear of generalizing or discriminating. *violent ones
@joe_vinegar @randahl and what's that goal? The existence of Israel? That goal is achieved, established and putting it into question only fuels the violence were seeing now.

@joe_vinegar You wrote all that to say it's only bad when "Zionists" do it. You said Christians, Jews and Muslims don't have political goals and are one group. Just be critical of Israel, don't throw out all reason to do it. You entirely dismissed things like the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a religious state (you said it has no goals, they funded 9/11...).

The fact that you go to such great lengths to let everyone else off the hook for being brutal seems like you don't so much love them, but hate just one group - no matter what. I hate whataboutism but you've done the reverse, you've said Israel is brutal and all other forms of state violence aren't even really a thing! Just look away!

@randahl Just imagine a Muslim minister saying on TV "we have to kill children cause they are also the enemy"
There'll be a hundred presidents and prime ministers in the streets ala Charlie Hedbo fake demonstration.
There are no words,no excuses to cover the misery and disgust I feel for all the governments supporting this #gazagenocide so explicitly. #IsraelTerroristState

@randahl
Eid al-Adha (Feast of Sacrifice) from June 5 to 9

Of course, especially if it is systemically relevant. Taiwan

@randahl I think you're wrong. There were a lot of religious cleaning done by muslim leaders(armenian genocide is one of the most researched topic and that is just a tip of an iceberg). Moreover the muslim world turned completely blind facing uyghur genocide that is currently going till now.
It shows that religious affiliations don't have much of a role in politics.

@randahl

If a country killed as many homeless people in their own country.... Oh wait... No, the UN won't step in to save us from America

@randahl When white South African farmers die, action is taken immediately /s
"According to the Reuters news agency, an average of 72 people are murdered every day in South Africa, most of them black. Current crime statistics list 19,696 murders for the period between April and December 2024 - but only 36 cases are linked to farms or small agricultural businesses, as CNN reports - the equivalent of 0.2 percent of all cases recorded in the statistics."
@randahl Syria, a muslim country, killed one million Syrians and activists like you were silent, often cumplicitous. Stop pretending you care about human life.