@Karlitschek Google is clearly not liking what Nextcloud is doing. That, in itself, is a good thing.

Google's behavior, however, reeks from their standard operating procedure; suffocate everything that's not us 😑

#google #nextcloud #playstore #oss #foss

@Karlitschek Of course they would. And Donald Trump would have their backs.

The question is, why would Europe go along with this?

Our legislation keeps bowing to US technology dominance time & again.

#eu #technology #legislation

@Karlitschek @toolsdiamond it was googles fault the whole time!!

we were so confused why we weren't able to upload files from the android app even after allowing it access. this is really uncool behaviour google!

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“The Register repeatedly asked Google to comment, but it failed to respond.”

Google: If we smother you long enough, you won’t exist to complain.

@Karlitschek wouldn't it be smart to offer the app also or mainly on frdoid ?

g-play is malware somehow *-)

with the full and best functionality .. nextcloud with fdroid works fine for me at the time

@Karlitschek "SAF cannot be used, as it is for sharing/exposing our files to other apps, so the reviewer clearly misunderstood our app workflow."

That is incorrect. SAF can be used to access files from other apps, as long as it's not in private directories, and as long as the user gave consent.

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Maybe google wants to make #FDroid more popular?

Hint: if it is available from FDroid don't install it from Google.

#nextcloud #fdroid #Google #playstore

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For comparison, what apps then are granted these broad access rights?

I never understood how these access right restrictions improved security, since apps are already prevented from using the private space of other apps. So how does restricting access to common storage areas keep the system safer?

@Karlitschek
I don't get this point:
"The more tech-savvy of you are certainly able to use the alternative app store, such as F-Droid. But for our user base of roughly one million users on the app store, this will hardly be an option."

Are #google users so dumb?
@nextcloud Why don't you say it clear and loud: F**k google and install @fdroidorg, because it is better for everyone to use #FOSS! Especially for #nextcloud users in this case.

@Karlitschek I remember having a discussion on mpv-android's GitHub repo about Google restricting access to files. Same issue, same discussion. At that time I thought it was easy to make Google allow this permission, but time shows how wrong I was.

Nowadays I'm REALLY annoyed at Google's anti-competitive behaviors: while they are forcing Gemini on their users, it's simply not possible to one to make a competitive alternative to Google Assistant, it uses permissions that are restricted only to system apps. 

@Karlitschek

This is why we need a good Linux phone sooner rather than later. Everyone needs to help whichever linux phone project they like by buying phones or donating to those projects. I bought FLX1 from @furilabs and I daily driving it. The only way to stop Crookle and Crapple is to stop buying their devices and services!

#FLX1

@Karlitschek Obviously #Google doesn't want @nextcloud to be a better solution.

#NotLegalAdvice but if I were #Nextcloud I'd definitely seek legal advice and complain at @EUCommission against "#Alphabet" or whatever shitty name they gave themselves...

@woody FYI two days later Google fixed the problem they'd caused for NextCloud -- see the update at the top of NextCloud's post: https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-android-file-upload-issue-google/ .

It shouldn't have ever gotten this far, Google should never have put NextCloud in this position, nothing's to stop Google from doing it again one day, etc. So it's not like the structural issue here has been solved. But NextCloud's immediate problem was resolved a little over a week ago, at least.