Peter Bloem
GigiJust discovered #Meta is using my purged #Facebook accounts (pre-2017) for #AI training. Getting emails about "account being used for AI" despite having terminated them years ago. Apparently "removing" just means they keep everything while locking you out. The kicker? To object to this use, they expect me to log into these nonexistent accounts! The audacity of exploiting data from accounts that should've been expunged years ago is infuriating. Meta's data practices remain as predatory as ever.
R.L. LE@gigi After reading this, I fully expect they also use the accounts of the dead this way. 😔
L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ@herrLorenz @gigi Absolutely. If anyone objects they'll argue the information's "worthless" and that it's "just been left unattended" or similar so they can use it any way they want to.
utzer [Pleroma]@gigi when I left Facebook in 2018 I had to search how to exactly delete the account, it was a bit hidden at the time. One option was deactivation of the account. Also they informed that account data like replies in conversations were not deleted in any case.
I wonder which case it is here.
I wonder which case it is here.
Louis Kemp
Bugspriet
Wilfried Klaebe
MC@gigi removed my account years ago as well. Not received any emails about using my data. If my data is used though I would definitely be looking at what action I could take to prevent moral hazard of them not experiencing consequences to disobeying GDPR. You could also complain to the Irish data protection commission given that you have email evidence.
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GergovieJuneSim63 (@junesim63@mstdn.social)
"Meta has removed over 90,000 posts since 7 October within 30 seconds of Israel making the request. In other words, no consideration was put into these decisions, the requests were just accepted. A whopping 38.8 million posts were acted upon in total, meaning they were either removed, suppressed, or the user was banned" #Israel #Palestine #Meta #Censorship Israel is working with Meta to censor pro-Palestinian posts across the world https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/israel-is-working-with-meta-to-censor?publication_id=1336368&post_id=161184837&isFreemail=true&r=55ldjt&triedRedirect=true
David Phd
Dirk@gigi hmm. I think their biggest blunder here is that they're sending out emails and making people aware that this is the case. It doesn't surprise me at all that they're keeping data from deleted accounts, because they're data hoarders and make money from data. Also, from an IT perspective, it's probably the easiest way to go about it, setting a "deleted" flag on the data.
It's safe to assume that Twitter does the same.
kinnla@gigi do you write from the Netherlands? I’d expect this case regulated by the GDPR. But eventually the data I s not covered, if it is pre-2018, when the GDPR became law.
bws
noplasticshower
Sobex@gigi@mastodon.n That's a justification to go through the DPO form for meta.
(And file a complaint with your national body if you don't get this fixed in a reasonable delay).
https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/540977946302970 should be the form (facebook tries to hide it well)
ramin
Edward Cant@gigi That's digusting behaviour on their part... but predictable.
I made deletefacebook.com (about 10 years ago), and I'm STILL horrified when things like this are confirmed. Thank you for posting about it.
Lance@gigi That's disturbing information. I killed my account for good in 2017. I'm in the US, so there's little I can likely do about it, either.
Janne@analogfusion @gigi check your jurisdiction, some states have good privacy laws (especially California)
https://iapp.org/resources/article/us-state-privacy-legislation-tracker/
Ω 🌍 Gus Posey
squalouJenkins@gigi ! thank your for the tip ! I did just close my years old unused account upon receiving this email.
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so I canceled suppression (was still in the shitty month delay before it's supposedly deleted), refused their AI crap, then re-asked for deletion.
What a mess. How are they even remotely allowed to operate any private data at all.
Pierric@squalouJenkins @gigi until they have another go at it. I already opted out months ago when I got the first email, but got the same email again a few days ago... They say you can ignore the new email if you already opted out... But can we? 🙄
Coralie RenéeOh shoot. I used fb for 8 years until 2016.
So I guess they are using my stuff too. How can we know if we are not on it anymore?
Fenix
MycotropicExactly this, they were shit in the early 2000's and they have only gotten worse
I accidentally opened a browser that I hadn't used in many years and it automatically woke my CANCELLED ACCOUNT up, email started flowing, updates alerted and it just wouldn't stop.
One you give them anything they'll keep it forever.
Marcus Müller@gigi dpfinquiry@support.facebook.com is the address they have registered for Data Protection complaints. Say you are expecting all your data to be deleted and that deletion to be confirmed within 14 days.
Kevin Karhan 
Billy SmithSince you are based in Holland, that's a GDPR violation. :D
Contact your MEP, as this will be more evidence for the EU actions, as well as getting the EU to add more pressure for your own case. :D
James Trickle uP@gigi The only way to win with corporate social media is to not play the game.
Toni M.
Ingo Schramm@gigi This gives me a good feeling again for that I never used any Facebook/Meta product ever. There’s a reason for this, and you just described it.
Lasse Gismo - 🇮🇱🇺🇦🇸🇩
millennial falcon@gigi sue them. class action. million each minimum
Emelia 👸🏻
JustDude
Ulrich Junker@gigi this confirms my fears: data are just marked as deleted, but are still there.
The Sleight Doctor 🃏@gigi Haven't been on there since 2019, so not sure if this still works, but you used to be able to retrieve your own "deleted" posts by searching for them using keywords. You only got a thumbnail, and that thumbnail wouldn't open due to the post supposedly having been deleted.
However, you could simply forward the thumbail to yourself in Messenger, then go to Messenger. When you click on it in Messenger the post opens and is restored. A useful glitch that proves FB never truly deletes a thing.
Daughter of DiscordI wish I knew the location of EVERY SINGLE meta (FB/Instagram/Threads) server farm so I could blow it up. Same for the bird site and Bluesky.
Leaving only the fediverse, where we can deplatform Nazis by simply blocking their servers.
Eli the Bearded Meta Platforms, Inc.
ATTN: Legal Department
1601 Willow Road
Menlo Park, CA 94025
To whom it may concern,
I closed my accounts in 20xx because I could no longer tolerate your terms. That continues to be the case and I most strongly must insist I do not give consent for my account details from prior to that date being used for AI training now. The terms then did not address this and I was given no opportunity to opt out while I was using Meta's services.
CC California AG.
CynBlogger™️Dissents@gigi
“Predatory” is an excellent word to describe every move Fuckerberg & his products have ever made.
“Predatory” is an excellent word to describe every move Fuckerberg & his products have ever made.
Softwarewolf@gigi There's no oversight on what they must do when we ask them to delete our data. At the very least, they just hide it from you (but not from themselves or their 3,647 sponsors). Or they can refuse to delete it. Or maybe they do delete it, but they don't touch the pile of server backups from the last decade. The practice is entirely unregulated here.
Once you give an American company (tech or otherwise) your information, they're pretty much allowed to do whatever the heck they please with it, in perpetuity, without your consent, unless they spell out otherwise in legal terms.
@gigi Facebook got in trouble after pulling this crap years ago with their MFA system. They asked for a phone number for "security purposes", and what else did they do with it? Turned around and sold it to advertizers.
Rachael Ava 💁🏻♀️@RachaelAva1024 @gigi I hadn't heard, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
PhreakByte@gigi strange. I deleted (not deactivated) my account many years ago, no such mail here. Be sure I will report if it happens