Reboost ♻️ plz: In light of increased uncertainty on the reliability on the US, European democracies should strengthen their strategic autonomy: this also includes autonomy from #Microsoft #Windows in the public and private sector.
https://eu-os.gitlab.io proposes to develop together a Community-led Proof-of-Concept for a free/libre replacement of Windows. Follow us on Mastodon and join the Matrix chat at https://matrix.to/#/#eu-os:kde.org to receive updates and help.
@MediocreWightMan @eu_os @EC_OSPO
#EU_OS should not need to be a new distro. Please read: https://eu-os.gitlab.io/goals#goals
Two points:
a) Is basing on Fedora really a good idea for an European project? I don't think so: Fedora is depending in Redhat, which is USA-based.
b) You are aware of Univention Corporate Server, which allows to centrally manage users and machines? I assume you are, but it is missing in the list if similar projects. (And I guess, UCS is not the only solution.)
@kirschwipfel @rriemann @MediocreWightMan @eu_os @EC_OSPO
It does seem that:
* Red Hat, Inc. "retains liability" for the Fedora project [1][2]
* Red Hat, Inc is a subsidiary of IBM since 2019 [2]
* 35% of Fedora contributors are employees of Red Hat [1]
EU digital sovereignty would probably be more robust with #Debian or a Debian derivative rather than Fedora.
@boud @kirschwipfel @MediocreWightMan @eu_os @EC_OSPO
It would be much better to gather these arguments in the Gitlab Kanban at https://gitlab.com/eu-os/eu-os.gitlab.io/-/boards
I am aware of @univention. Though this only solves partially the problem you bring up. As far as I know, it also builds on top of many components that enjoy much support from #Redhat. Think of #FreeIPA and #Keycloak for instance.
Redhat is a big player in Linux and many components are driven by them, that true. (Most centrally: systemd) Anyhow IMHO it's still a difference whether you use components or a whole distro: in case e.g. Redhat fails, chances are high that a non-Redhat-distro changes the component, whereas Fedora will not be changed.
And another aspect: Fedora will come with USA-mindet defaults (e.g. Google DNS as default fallback), while another distro might already remove these - less burden for you.
@rriemann @boud @MediocreWightMan @eu_os @EC_OSPO @univention
I have discussed the choice of the underlying OS also with @kde community members. At best, there is a range of OSs to choose from without breaking the setup otherwise.
#CERN 🇪🇺 uses #Almalinux. I think for those that aim for a full production setup, this could be a good fit.
https://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind2212&L=SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS&P=78
@Hieronymus @eu_os @EC_OSPO @opensuse
Read here: https://eupolicy.social/@eu_os/114185950511915445
The layering mechanism offered by rpm-ostree/bootc permits to reuse container tooling and expertise already available in the public sector and to share common layers per country/region/sector. So far, opensuse does not support bootc. @kalpa is the atomic distro for opensuse, which also has layers, but they are not necessarily shared between different machines.
Today @[email protected] covered in his Youtube show #EU_OS. Thanks for putting us in your spotlight! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu3S2A02FFc Few comments ahead of a possible appearance in the show in the future: 1) indeed, we are in concept phase. Join us here, on matrix at #eu-os:kde.org or at https://gitlab.com/eu-os/eu-os.gitlab.io/-/boards/9013559 if you like to contribute. 2) @[email protected] is well known, but it's atomic @[email protected] does not have the layering support and tooling like @[email protected] or @[email protected] 3) On the US: it's not so black/white.
@frankps @Azarilh @eu_os @EC_OSPO
Not entirely true. Read: https://eu-os.gitlab.io/faq#linux-distro
Think of it like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gendbuntu
https://eu-os.gitlab.io received a few updates today after some legit criticism.
- Logo has now consistently a purple gradient for more distinction to EU flag 🇪🇺.
- Home page: EU OS is not yet an EU project
- FAQs acknowledge that Linux is already used in the public sector. The unique selling point is better clarified: use of #bootc and more collaboration across the EU to bring down the costs for a migration from Windows #endof10
- university of Oslo added to use cases 🎉
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EU OS is one of many projects that aim for a higher adoption of free operating systems. Let us all work together.
Our estimated public sector migration status 😉 :
@frankps @rriemann @Azarilh @eu_os @EC_OSPO
Containers have revolutionized the server application industry. The same approach applied to the OS for workstations is incredibly powerful and currently only uBlue project is taking advantage of it. No new distro, the distros are Fedora, CentOS, AlmaLinux and whatever will support Bootc. Imagine at the time Docker was released someone saying "no need for another distro"...
@Azarilh They should still distinguish themselves as something not official.
I have nothing against Linux. But we have plenty of good distros. What we need is good IT services for the Linux users. Both European and national ones.
An example: Most archiving systems only support MS 365...
These kind of problems must be solved if more people in public offices should be able to use Linux on the desktop! And this should mostly be solved on national level.
Please check out the FAQ: https://eu-os.gitlab.io/faq#fedora
@eu_os @EC_OSPO #IMHO, it's overdue that @EUCommission & @bsi ban non-#FLOSS & #CCSS in #administration and espechally #CriticalInfrastructure.
@thelinuxEXP hey Nick, have you heard about this project? I think it could be amazing if you mentioned it in one of your tech news videos!
I'm sure your community could be interested to learn about EU OS!
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