Kyuu EturauttiMar 17, 2025
Jan Heisinen

Joining the #European #propaganda team. Here you go: a short guide on how to become a digitally sovereign European citizen.

#BuyEuropean #BuyEU #BuyFromEU #BuyFromEuope #BoycottUSA #BoycottAmerica #BoycottTrump #BoycottMusk #Europe #politics #EUpolitics #customer #digital #browser #AI #Mistral #Qwant #Threema #Ecosia #Vivaldi #Linux #LinuxMint #digitalEurope #digitalSovereignty #Tariffs #stopMusk #stopTrump #trumpism #EU #browser #ChatGPT #searchEngine #FederaliseEurope #ViveLaEurope

Mar 17, 2025 at 8:53pmWeb
Show threadStanislav Čerkas 🇨🇿🇺🇦🇪🇺Mar 17, 2025
Some alternatives could be better. :)
Show threadJan HeisinenMar 17, 2025
@Lord_ViLyam you can propose them here, if you want to!
Show threadStanislav Čerkas 🇨🇿🇺🇦🇪🇺Mar 18, 2025
@[email protected] So, Linux Is perfect, but for phones there is /e/OS.
Browser also could be Qwant.
Search engine MetaGer or Mojeek.
Threema Is cool.
Show threadzbrandoMar 22, 2025
@Lord_ViLyam @heisinen Mojeek is UK based so outside EU space. I don't see a Qwant browser for PC and on mobile Vivaldi is a better choice.
Show threadStanislav Čerkas 🇨🇿🇺🇦🇪🇺Mar 25, 2025
I use only mobile, so sorry for misumderstanding. I feel UK like still part od Europe, So for mi it don't matter UK, Switzerland, Ukraine or EU. But I'll chceck Vivaldi.
Show threadEscapist  🇪🇺Mar 17, 2025

@heisinen

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html

Messenger-Matrix • Kuketz IT-Security Blog

Messenger: Vergleich sicherheits- und datenschutzrelevanter Eigenschaften von Messengern

Show threadJan HeisinenMar 17, 2025
@The_Escapist Das ist ein guter Verhleich. Danke!
Show threadRobinMar 17, 2025
@heisinen
Mistral just seems (from the site) to be an LLM. What about neural networks, or genetic algorithms, or symbolic AI, or the many other areas within the AI field?
Show threadGuillaume RossoliniMar 18, 2025
@heisinen we keep confusing Europe and EU; I’m not quite certain that the Swiss are bound by EU laws
Show threadJan HeisinenMar 18, 2025
@GuillaumeRossolini they are a part of EFTA. So basicly they are in the EU, but without any voting rights.
Show threadzbrandoMar 22, 2025
@heisinen @GuillaumeRossolini I think there are some differences, in particular for Switzerland because they are not part of the EEA.
Show threadGuillaume RossoliniMar 22, 2025

@zbrando @heisinen it’s unclear to me where they stand exactly, but I’d venture a guess that their agreements, being economic in nature, don’t cover citizen protections of a legal nature

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland%E2%80%93European_Union_relations

Switzerland–European Union relations - Wikipedia

Show threadInternxtMar 18, 2025
@heisinen Nice list! If you want a VPN or cloud storage ya know where we are 😉
Show threadSteen Eiler JørgensenMar 18, 2025
@heisinen @henrik
Show threadTomas ReesMar 18, 2025
@heisinen maps -> HereWeGo or TomTom. Uber -> FreeNow. Cloud storage -> IONOS Hidrive or Icedrive. For messaging I use Viber. It's Japanese, but comparable functionality to WhatsApp (and free/ad sorted).
Show threadJan HeisinenMar 18, 2025
@pheasant_plucker WeGo is awesome!
Show threadzbrandoMar 22, 2025
@pheasant_plucker @heisinen There is also Bolt as an Uber alternative.
Show threadTomas ReesMar 18, 2025
@heisinen search -> @Mojeek or if you're looking for a DuckDuckGo alternative there is StartPage (default search engine for the Vivaldi browser)
Show threadJan HeisinenMar 18, 2025
@pheasant_plucker @Mojeek start page, after some redditors from r/#BuyFromEU made some digging, turns out not to be European. Stay with #Qwant or #Ecosia. The best what we’ve got right now. They have joined forces to make a #European search engine.
Show threadTomas ReesMar 18, 2025
@heisinen @Mojeek mojeek is British - unless you don't count Britain as part of Europe?
Show threadzbrandoMar 22, 2025
@pheasant_plucker @heisinen UK withdraw from EU and EEA so can't guarantee the same law protection like GDPR. Also, UK is member of the Five Eyes.
Show threadTomas ReesMar 22, 2025
@zbrando @heisinen GDPR is incorporated into UK law
Show threadzbrandoMar 23, 2025
@pheasant_plucker @heisinen Thank you for the clarification, I read that they were thinking to opt out but clearly IR didn't happen.
Show threadTomas ReesMar 23, 2025
@zbrando @heisinen Certain right wingers would like that but they created so much other chaos that they never got round to it before losing the election. Could happen in the future though.
Show threadMojeek Search EngineMar 19, 2025
@heisinen @pheasant_plucker does that make Vivaldi not European then? Qwant and Ecosia are still using Bing and Google
Show threadPhil HöferMar 24, 2025
@heisinen @pheasant_plucker There's also https://metager.org (@MetaGer) which allows you to get combined results from the Google, Bing and Mojeek indexes on one result page. (And an integration of the European OpenWebIndex is in the works.)
MetaGer: Privacy Protected Search & Find

Search safely while having your privacy respected. The digital knowledge of the world must be freely accessible without paternalism and abide by states or corporations.

Show threadDomobert Dak   Apr 12, 2025

@heisinen @pheasant_plucker @Mojeek

The Reddit users dug too superficial. Otherwise they would have stumbled over a certain Politico article about Qwant.

Or to word it with a Star Wars quote: "You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them!"

France’s Mr. Privacy turns cybersnooper

How the disgraced co-founder of France’s answer to Google moved into the murky world of cybersurveillance.

POLITICO
Show threadJan HeisinenApr 13, 2025
@domodak @Mojeek @pheasant_plucker this article is quite old. I'd like to know what the situation looks like nowadays, when much more people are using the web browser. Also, the question remains: "what else?"
Show threadSolvaiMar 22, 2025
@heisinen Great list! I recently made the switch to Threema from Messenger and Whatsapp, and loving it so far! I'm using the Ecosia web browser, but considering switching to Vivaldi, as I've been hearing a lot of good things about it.
Show threadCarsten O. 💚🌻📯Mar 24, 2025

@heisinen for me #DAVID made by german Company #Tobit is a very good alternative for #Microsoft #Outlook and #Exchange.

https://david.tobit.software/

Start | Team/David

Nicht die Großen fressen die Kleinen. Sondern die Schnellen die Langsamen!

Show threadrootileMar 24, 2025
@heisinen
Show threadschuelermineApr 24, 2025
@heisinen I'm gonna go grumble too myself that AI doesn't earn a spot as an essential technology