A Canadian friend's perspective on US behavior since the Trump regime was installed:

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One thing I've learned over the past few weeks, and it's been a bit of a sobering lesson, is that a lot of Americans I know don't actually know what's going on between the US and Canada right now, and just how seriously Canadians are taking this. So, against my better judgement, here's a timeline to explain why we're here, and why we're angry.

Nov 30th, 2018 - The United States, Canada and Mexico finalize a trade agreement. Trump personally negotiates the terms and signs the document, celebrating it as 'the greatest trade agreement in history". (This is important.)

Nov 29th, 2024 - In a face to face meeting, Trump threatens the Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, that he will be imposing 25% tariffs and that if Canada wants to avoid that, it should join the US as a state.

Nov 30th, 2024 - Trump publicly calls our Prime Minister 'Governor Trudeau' and instructs his staff to only address him as Governor going forward. He again suggests Canada should join the USA.
Dec 3rd, 2024 - Trump remarks that he would split Canada into two states once annexed.

Dec 10th, 2024 - Trump posts that the majority of Canadians support annexation, despite public polling that only 13% of Canadians would consider the idea.

Dec 18th, 2024 - Trump again falsely states that the majority of Canadians support annexation and that one of his lapdogs, Wayne Gretzky, should have a leadership role in that new scenario.
Jan 7th, 2025 - At a press conference, Trump says that he would use economic force to destroy the Canadian economy to annex it.

Jan 14, 2025 - Trump again claims that most Canadians want to be American, despite new polls showing only 10% of us are open to the idea.

Jan 20th, 2025 - During his inaugural address, Trump says that the U.S. will 'expand its territory' during his second term.

Jan 23rd, 2025 - At the World Economic Forum, Trump says that Canada can avoid tariffs and economic collapse if it joins the US. He says this in front of representatives from most countries in the world.

Jan 24th, 2025 - Trump states publicly that Canada 'will' become a state

Jan 31st, 2025 - Trump announces a 25% tariff on all Canadian imports to begin the next day.

Feb 2nd, 2025 - Trump refers to Canada as its 'Cherished 51st state' and that it should join the US to avoid tariffs.

Feb 3rd, 2025 - A one month delay is agreed upon. Trump, in a conversation with Trudeau states that he doesn't think existing border treaties with Canada are valid, and need to be revised.

Feb 7th, 2025 - In a closed door meeting with his cabinet, Prime Minister Trudeau is recorded, without his knowledge, telling everyone that he believes very strongly that Trump is serious and that he stated his reason for annexation as Canadian resources.

Feb 9th, 2025 - In a Super Bowl pre-game interview, Trump says that he's serious about his threats, calling it a 'viable consideration for expanding US territory'

Feb 10th, 2025 - Trump announces an additional 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from Canada to come into effect March 12th.

Feb 24th, 2025 - Trump publicly remarks that whoever signed the USMCA agreement is an idiot. He was the one that signed it.

March 4th, 5th, and 6th 2025 - Tariffs come into effect. Canada retaliates with it's own tariffs. Tariffs are again postponed until April 1st after a huge market backlash.

March 4th, 2025 - In an address to a joint session of congress, Trump states that the US will own Greenland 'one way or the other'.

March 5th, 2025 - US Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick told Canadian finance minister Dominic LeBlanc that Trump "had come to realize that the relationship between the United States and Canada was governed by a slew of agreements and treaties that were easy to abandon."

March 7th, 2025 - Unconfirmed Memorandum and maps leaked on twitter reveal Trump is allegedly planning to annex the entirety of the great lakes and Southern Ontario, home to 13,491,332 Canadians. This amounts to 35.25% of Canada's total population and includes its largest city, Toronto. This region accounts for 38% of the Canadian economy, and its loss would make Canada's independence functionally impossible.

March 8th, 2025 - Canada's foreign minister warns European allies that their government considers Canada to be under existential threat.

March 9th, 2025 - Mark Carney, the new Canadian Prime Minister, in his acceptance speech, states that Trump is seeking to destroy Canada, and its way of life.

March 11, 2025 - President Trump threatens to “permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada” if Canada does not drop a 250% to 390% tariff on U.S. dairy products, which he doesn’t state only kicks in after a certain quantity of tariff-free U.S. dairy enters Canada, a quantity that was originally negotiated and agreed to by Trump during the USMCA in 2018.

In Trump's own words, "The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear.

Canadians’ taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that. The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, “O Canada,” will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!"

March 11th, 2025 PT. II - Peter Navarro, a Senior Advisor for Trump is interviewed by MSNBC. When asked about the tariffs he responds with "Just tamp it down, please, over there, ok? They're throwing down the hockey gloves. Stop that rhetoric...we're not going to tolerate anything but them stopping killing Americans", insinuating that this situation was caused by Canadians killing Americans.

March 11th, 2025 PT III - Trump again publicly muses that Canada, Greenland, and the US should be one country, and questions the validity of the Canadian and American border.

To my American friends, I know most of you are amazing and generous people. You didn't ask for this, and I understand that. I hold no ill will towards you, whatsoever. But I must stress, with as much seriousness as I can, the amount of damage this has done.

We have viewed you as our closest friend and ally for a century. We thought of you as brothers and sisters. We answered the call, again and again, for any support you needed from us. Most of Canadians visit the USA so much that we've seen more of the US than we have the rest of Canada.

American products have been taken off our shelves. Canadians are cancelling travel plans to the US. Photo after photo has been shared on social media of empty flights from Canada to the USA.

This isn't a joke to us. We're not overreacting. We don't think he's just saying this shit to cause chaos or negotiate a deal. We wholeheartedly believe that our closest ally and friend is about to bring violence across our border, economically destroy us, and eliminate our way of life.

The main driver for Canada's creation in 1867 was SPECIFICALLY to not be part of America, and to end America's very public threats and plans to annex our territory.

We're angry. We're really, really fucking angry. Open your eyes to what's happening because we're tired of trying to make you understand why and asking you why it seems like none of you care. **

I still hope that there is time to repair this. I still believe that this is the result of one man's plan to burn it all down. But time is running out, and fast.

@tprophet At this time, on behalf of the United States, I would like to offer Canada our unconditional surrender.
@segfaul7 @tprophet Thank you, that's probably for the best. Last time the USA attacked Canada, it did not end well for the USA. This time, Canada has NATO and the Commonwealth behind it, and honestly pretty much every member of both of those would seize the opportunity to both help a friend, of course, and slap that fool as a special bonus.
@segfaul7 @tprophet Sure thing!
@Dianora @segfaul7 Wait, wouldn't it be renamed the Gulf of Canada then?
@tprophet @segfaul7 Mexico gets Texas, after all the U.S. stole it from them in the first place, so they can keep it gulf of Mexico.
@Dianora @tprophet or we could retroactively grant Texas' request for secession... how funny would it be if this tickled a MAGA nerve and they actually did it?
@segfaul7 @tprophet They are the only state with the right of secession,

@Dianora @segfaul7 @tprophet

California could secede, and wouldn't bother asking for permission if it did.

@Walrus @Dianora @segfaul7 @tprophet California didn't ask for permission when it became a state, so it would be on brand
@vrandecic @Walrus @segfaul7 @tprophet and the democratic government of Hawaii was overthrown by the U.S. military because some capitalists got butt hurt about nationalization.

@Dianora

Well, if we are splitting the U.S. back to previous borders, then all the border states go to Mexico (see the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, 1848), where the U.S annexed about 55% of Mexico's territory (California, Nevada, Arizona, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma, New Mexico AND Texas)

Just saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo#Results

Also note: "American intervention" is the language used for "marched in and took it, negotiating peace and "payment" after the fact"

@tprophet @segfaul7

Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo - Wikipedia

@herhandsmyhands @Dianora @tprophet @segfaul7 I say Mexico should take back the west and Quebec should be reverted to its previous borders including Ontario and Detroit down to Louisiana. Hell, Louisiana is named after the French king.

@tprophet @Dianora @segfaul7

maybe trump will rename Hudson Bay as....

@tprophet @Dianora @segfaul7 I prefer Sud de la baie d'Hudson

(Sorry if that's wrong, I used a translation app...)

@segfaul7 @tprophet
If Canada acquired all of our West coast states & the East coast down to NC, it would look like a hump-backed dinosaur.
@tprophet There is a new level of Hell just for Trump and his cronies. There are MANY Americans who are with you in spirit, Canada!

@tprophet this American agrees with every word.

I love my Canadian neighbors, have deep affection and respect for Canada, and am sick and disgusted at the things this president says and does. It is disgraceful and frankly disgusts me to see Canada treated so poorly by this administration.

it makes me infinitely sad and fills me with anguish to see our relationship soured by this damned fool and his bellicose idiocy.

@cross @tprophet This American is in complete agreement with you, Dan Cross. If Canada would take me and my small family, I’d move there in heartbeat with my very nontrivial assets and spending.

@cxj @cross @tprophet

We have an app(lication) for that: https://www.canadavisa.com/moving-to-canada-from-the-u-s.html#StartBusiness

A bunch of other routes for moving to Canada on that page as well.

I came as part of a job offer for my parnert. It's not instant, but it is way, way worth the effort.

@Amgine @cxj @cross @tprophet

Do you think Americans will be welcome?

@Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross @tprophet

Absolutely.

But let me tell you a story… When I "landed" in Canada, a camper from TX was also being interviewed. The people had not declared their guns, because they had the right to carry.

In the USA.

Canada is not the USA, never has been. Its laws are different. Its culture is different. If a Canadian becomes very polite, they are likely angry.

That difference alone - that they become **more** polite when angry - is just how different it is.

@Amgine @cxj @cross @tprophet

Yes, and it's Americans like these who will be responsible for Americans in general being refused entry.

@Amgine @cxj @cross @tprophet

And as a Brit, I'm a master if using polite words to convey my loathing!

@Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross @tprophet

Yes! Exactly! This is one of sources of the Canadian version. Plus a wonderful dose from Québec stating the absurd in a jovial fashion. And let me tell you, the Salish around here… 👩‍🍳 💋

Most of us USians completely miss it.

May I strongly suggest the film "Bon Cop, Bad Cop" dated, but… some prescient (and trenchant) social commentary.

@Amgine @Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross @tprophet

We went up to BC from Florida back in 2017 and were interviewed including search of the camper and truck.

When asked if we had any weapons or ammunition or other prohibited items said no. When asked again with him saying are you sure told them if I did they would be about 3000 miles away.

Guess our reputation as the Gunshine state is well known up there.

@nerb @Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross @tprophet

Yes. As far as I know there are no countries which welcome weapons at the border, including the USA. They can be brought in, but under very carefully controlled circumstances. Ifyou are going to another county you should know their rules.

My (also US citizen) partner was nearly arrested at the US border, coming across to bring me tools for boat repair. That included an undeclared crowbar. This was too dangerous for US CBP.

@Amgine @Nick_Stevens_graphics @cxj @cross @tprophet

We were going to a big camper convention in BC at the Nk'Mip Campground. I remember on the forums lots of others asking where they could store weapons while they were in Canada. I heard a few had tried to hide them and were refused entry when caught.

After the convention we traveled through Canada and came out at Niagara Falls.
Reentry was much worse the going in. Took about 6 hours and they went through everything. Not sure what they were looking for, maybe some Poutine?

@Amgine @nerb @cxj @cross @tprophet

Ah yes, the good old USA.

Where military grade assault weapons are an absolute right, but kinder eggs are just too dangerous.

@Nick_Stevens_graphics

Heh. It is one two events which are regularly trotted out to induce guilt. The other involved my rigging knife discovered in the bottom of my computer bag, which she had borrowed to fly within the USA in early 2002, about 6 months after 9/11.

I still do not understand how that is *my* fault…

@tprophet I thought I knew, but I was wrong. I had no idea he had been threatening this long!
@tprophet Reformatted the post as a single page for ease-of-sharing outside of Mastodon: https://www.ccoderun.ca/Trump_and_Canada/
On Trump & Canada

@charette @tprophet thank you for setting out so clearly. I've been watching this from the UK, with not a little fear for us and Europe, but confess I'd not realized just how serious it is. All strength to you all.
@charette @tprophet Thank you.
A good read for our global friends too. Canada is on the northern side of the longest undefended border in the world, with integrated supply chains and a longstanding connected economy with the US, and we haven’t had to even think about militarily defending ourselves in over 200 years against our closest neighbour and friend. Unless you’re actively working against the US’s lecherous orange leader, you’re complicit in ending our sovereignty.

@tprophet so I thought about it for a short minute.

Let's say this does somehow happen - no violence, no armed conflict, now Canada is a new state. Or maybe a couple of states.

This means 2 or 4 more senators in the US senate, and a bunch more members of the house of representatives.

Canada in general is way more diverse than the US and much more left leaning. The US senate is already pretty balanced, adding 2 or 4 more senators will shift it strongly to the left, which in the US means democrats. Same for the house of representatives.

There is no world in which the republicans will allow this to happen, and the democrats will not participate; plus they're in the minority now.

I think Canada is safe for now.

@pq1r @tprophet
I am sorry you are wrong, because liberal voices will instantly be shattered by Musks minions through blackmailing and suppression. The USA are a ruthless and mercyless dictatorship run by a mighty lunatic and are n o t to be trust anymore in anyway.
Compassionate greetings from Germany, where after the recent election some elected politicians consider to copy Trumps behavior. This is proprietarism and fascism!
@pq1r @tprophet You're making the assumption that the USA, "expanded" version of not, is going to continue having free and fair elections. Revise this assumption.

@beecycling @tprophet well, you're right. The entire premise of Canada joining the US as a state hangs on the US being democratic. There's no meaning to states and representation if the US federal government becomes a dictatorship. That would just be one country conquering another.

By the way, the US doesn't have a lot of good experience doing that either. Lots of bad experience though.

Edit: typo

@pq1r @tprophet Oh for sure. Trump thinks the US can just march in anywhere and take over within days. I think Putin believed that about Ukraine too.
@pq1r @tprophet They'll just make it a territory without representation "for now", like Puerto Rico.

@tprophet

We care about this and a lot more but it's proving difficult to find a throat to get one's fingers around.

By accident or design, it's a slippery malignity we're dealing with.

Ultimately looks as though it'll need some kind of general strike or the like, but that momentum is slow to develop. Recognition is a slow dawn.

Deeply sorry.

@tprophet Thank you for laying this out so clearly. Trump has mouthed off about this much more than I had realized. I see now why Canadians are taking this so seriously, and I can only say, I'm sorry. Stand strong, Canada! I'm with you in spirit. We can't let the 🍊🤡 destroy your country the way he's trashing ours.
@Sylkykat @tprophet I am beginning to believe that Bibi knew about the attack beforehand (there have been rumors) and worked a deal with the orange cockwomble to not admit knowledge and stop it, and choosing genocide, in order to put Biden in a very bad light, especially among the young idealists, knowing that Biden's sense of loyalty was so strong that he supported Bibi long after he should have.
@tprophet I am so sorry that our corrupt government and the minions who support them is doing this. I support all your efforts to battle this, and I will not stop speaking out. Please know that most Americans are against their efforts to bully yours and other countries into submission, and at this point, we are on the phone, on SM, and in the streets doing what we can to fight them.
@tprophet people in other countries having seen more of the US than USians themselves isn’t limited to Canadians, even though it’s easier for you considering the proximity.
I’ve seen *so* much more of the US than virtually any US citizen or resident I’ve ever met, including all US coworkers/colleagues I’ve had while working for US companies.

@tprophet

Americans who are aware of current political news do understand why you're angry. We too are alarmed and angry at this administration.

We do care. There is so much being sabotaged and destroyed right now, it's hard to do enough protests and calls to cover everything. But we're trying.

Nobody sensible and decent wants to invade Canada. But "sensible and decent" are not currently in office.

@Kathmandu @tprophet We know you do, but we also know how many Americans (and Canadians, even) are not really paying attention, or hearing about it in passing from Bill Maher or something as the butt of some stupid joke. There are so many people who do not understand what annexation would mean, or how serious this actually is, on both sides.

We would get no benefit from joining the US, we'd just be opening ourselves up to being robbed

@Kathmandu @tprophet and having a US-supported puppet government, would be virtually the same. Which is why we have to be extremely careful who is representing us, or conveying the situation to Canadians, they can not be US loyalists, and if they are, they need to be taken off the board.

@tprophet I find this here interesting as well in this context:

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/canada-to-be-eus-28th-member-nearly-half-of-canadians-say-yes/

And yeah, would be a nice move to join the EU (or just thinking about it and starting talks). This would make the orange man explode. And one good thing is: you can leave the EU again - in contrast to the US, because you still would be a souvereign country...

@tprophet

Let's add a couple more things:

What Trump has said is actually covered by treaties the USA has signed. That means he is violating the US Constitution.

And the Charter of the United Nations.

And the Charter of NATO

And treaties with Canada, the UK, and others.

That is why the **world** is sitting up and taking notice. He is violating international law, which is the web of treaties - many created by the USA - to preserve the peace.

@Amgine @tprophet Paging the ICC -- seriously, if the US can't even prosecute the head bitch felon in charge, it's time for some international aid, you know, for the greater good of the planet

@Amgine @tprophet

All that already happened in 2003, but everybody felt bad about 9/11. And the victims were, if not responsible for 9/11, also not sympathetic.

So we stood and watched, because America has nuclear bombs, and thus a UN Sec. Council veto against any UN opposition it.

When Obama didn't put anybody in jail for breaking the treaty, not even for torture, the GOP realized it was legal now.

Canada can only hope we look more sympathetic than Iraq did.

@RoyBrander @tprophet

The ICC and ICJ are not the first courts of relief. A nation can prosecute an individual under these treaties.

Including a sitting President.

It is only when a nation has refused to prosecute, or has clearly failed to address an issue, that a case can be brought to the ICC / ICJ. Obama's presidency, itself, was viewed as a national response to the invasion of Iraq by Bush jr's 'Coalition of the Willing.'

There is no coalition now. It is the USA, alone.

@tprophet Really good thread. I’m not American or Canadian but I’ve been living in these parts of the world for the last decade or so. It makes my blood boil what Trump is saying/doing. Such a stupid egotistical little man! I wish you Canadians all the best and sincerely hope nothing comes out of this.