“The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy, the empathy exploit,” Musk said. “There it’s they’re exploiting a bug in Western civilization, which is the empathy response.”
-Elon Musk, Feb 28, 2025

“In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trials 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.”
-Captain G. M. Gilbert, the Army psychologist assigned to watching the defendants at the Nuremberg trials

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/05/politics/elon-musk-rogan-interview-empathy-doge/index.html

Elon Musk wants to save Western civilization from empathy

Americans are still in the dark about the scope and scale of what Elon Musk is doing with DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, which is working to drastically shrink the size of government by aiming to cut $1 trillion or more in government spending.

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It's a feature, not a bug.

@jcast @nazgul thank you for reading my mind and soul. Just my exact thought.

@LuluHelle @jcast @nazgul
The distinguishing characteristic of Sociopaths/Psychopaths is a lack of #empathy.

We are currently being led by two of the worst Sociopaths on the planet by a Party that BRAGS about their lack of empathy (see "anti" #trans, #gay, #DEI, #CRT, #covid #masks, #immunization, #DOGE, etc.)

@MugsysRapSheet not sure why you are telling me this tbh. I'm not from your country and I know the shit storm that is happening.
@LuluHelle
Sorry, I replied to your post so my reply would not appear between your post and the post you were responding to.
@jcast He’s a bug. @nazgul
@Pineywoozle @jcast @nazgul Bugs have value to the ecosystem.
@eighthourlunch My bad. I apologize to all bugs. He’s a glitch.
@Pineywoozle A glitch can be repaired. Or taken out, I guess.
@Pineywoozle @eighthourlunch He's a parasitic wasp. Or a zombifying fungus.
@twobiscuits His evilness has many facets. 😉 @eighthourlunch
@Pineywoozle @eighthourlunch Don't give him too much credit. It doesn't take all that much to be a dumb asshole.
@twobiscuits Having a lot of facets to his evil isn’t a complement 😜 He’s not clever he’s just a one trick pony that deals with all of life thru that one lens @eighthourlunch
@eighthourlunch I'm a software engineer and this toot took me way too long to comprehend
@nazgul
Is Musk a sociopath or a psychopath?
@Christo_459 @nazgul Probably a narcissist, him and Trump both. Everything he says is projection and designed to inflate his own ego. Became really obvious to me after the Thailand diver incident.
@MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul a very effective way to fight back is to deprive him of his only authority: his richest man status. This means devaluing Tesla, and this is already happening. We need more of it.

@mapto Also, get him out of control (and the revenue stream) of SpaceX.

@MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul

@wonka @mapto @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul SpaceX isen't a company but a scam model. They don't invented a single technology there but cross-promoted Musk stock market values and derived critically unprotected tax money.

So it basically is a part of Musk and can't (and shouldn't) operate without him.

@NikitaTarsov So then, kick Musk out, maybe split off Starlink, and integrate the rest into NASA.

@mapto @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul

@wonka @mapto @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul
SpaceX has no product but liabilitys. Imagen it as a company is flawed in the first place. It has bought voices in NASA to get the deals (and later put these bought people in their supervisory board) and take the money. There is no reason to have a product in the first place.
And btw. NASA has shown to not have a immune system able to handle systemic corruption to get trusted with anything, without it being reviewed externally ...
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@wonka @mapto @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul
... (and there is no goverment able to do that as well).
Spaceship is prooven by many engeniers to be incapable of doing the trick they offered by many times overrun their time/money limits. They managed to fail on tasks we as mankind do reliably for 60 years.
Starlink isen't a marvel but one of several products using a specific setup, and alone, as well as a leading horse in PR for the idea, it is one of ...
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@wonka @mapto @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul the most critical threats to mankind right now.
Let me explain, bacuse i think it's important to understand the gap between public perception of a technology and its actual problems.
Starlink cosnsits of an array of microsatelites to cover a huge surface area on the ground. These satellites are extremly short lifed due to its small failure mass.
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@wonka Once they decay, they set free a specific constelation of materials that are very interactive in the EM spectrum. This system and its follow ups will shorten the timeframe until the Kessler-syndrome might look us from having satellite communications at all - of spaceflights, for that matter.

So that's the gap. SpaceX is seen as a company doing more or less free market stuff, but it isen't.
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@wonka It's a dystopian storyline too dumb to write in a book. ESA is warning, other space agencys are warning, but NASA isen't. So there is no use of SpaceX nor a functional agency in NASA that is worth to be rescued. And we could advance this train of thought quite a bit longer and get pretty pessimistic, but i'll try to stop here.
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@wonka I feel it super disturbing that most people handle free market statements as if they would be connected to science, functionality or reality in general, cause that mindset make exploiting public opinion such a easy target for amoralic entitys - may it be companys or random James Bond Villain cosplayers like Elmo is.
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(my lousy attempt to keep stuff short, but i'm kinda in a toxic relation with context. So I'm sry for the wall of text)
@NikitaTarsov @wonka @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul I'm sorry, but I'd need this explained in more detail, for dummies. Would you bother to do so? Thank you!

@mapto @wonka @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul
Starlink is a dangerous product of short lifespan. Exloding nukes in orbit would be less of a problem.

That's an example of how much we need SpaceX or Elmo and 'his' inventions.

If something is unclear, plz specify what in particular.

@NikitaTarsov @mapto @wonka @Christo_459 @nazgul

I think I understand. His playbook's similar for other companies. Neuralink was headed by Max Hodak who worked at Duke under Miguel Nicolelis. Much of Nuralink's experiments are duplicates of the work at the Duke lab (Nicolelis had monkeys at Duke controlling a robot in Kyoto in 2008). In so far as Nuralink is doing something "novel" it's just packaging a bunch of best practices together (if that). Example from Duke: https://today.duke.edu/2014/10/nicolelis

Mind Over Matter | Duke Today

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@NikitaTarsov @wonka @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul Starlink is currently the only organisation in the world capable of launching reusable rocket platforms. How is this a liability?
@mapto @wonka @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul I lack the durability to go through it point by point, but luckily we can grab a random number of people who made a good job in doing exactzly this.
Some of those most familiar with Musks endevours and the scientifical backround (and the nerdyness to chew through all the data to explain it) is this guy:
Starship(part 1):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TxkE_oYrjU
Starlink(+stuff):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaUCDZ9d09Y
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SpaceX: BUSTED!! (Part 1)

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@mapto But feel free to ask google for any risc or absurdity of any of Musks 'ideas'. It absolutly is one blast of a rabbithole.
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@wonka @MidniteMikeWrites @Christo_459 @nazgul it's a private company. Is there a way of getting him out other than the DoJ starting an antitrust case? Because this is certainly not happening in the next 2 years. A best-case scenario would be Trump flipping the coin to save his ass after the mid-terms. But even he is not so stupid to think that his ass could be saved after all this.
@Christo_459 @nazgul Sociopath according to the warning signs. I've read up on it. He has every single indicator. His eyes remind me of pictures of old serial killers.
@Christo_459 Both and my money says he wasn’t held as a baby if there’s some nature/nurture question. @nazgul

@Christo_459 @nazgul

I often wonder whether labels help or hinder. He often behaves like a pre-pubescent spoiled brat - but you won't find that in the DSM-5 Psychiatry has a hard time applying labels because of the shifting and merging diagnostic criteria.

@Christo_459 @nazgul Basically, they're the same thing. "Sociopath" is the term psychologists invented as "psychopath" had entered common use and the meaning was being skewed by films and fiction, so they wanted a term for the medical use that psychopath started as.

(As explained by my neuropsychology or clinical psychology lecturer some 30 years ago.)

I don't know if Musk is clinically a sociopath or just a really nasty, self centred guy.

@Christo_459 @nazgul I guess neither is the case, as he only perfectly depicts what we typically imagen to be these terms.
But Musk very much shows empathy - just reacts to it in the worst, most damaged way.
He's a narcissist with low intellectual capability to handle whatever trama made him that - and for sure also had the worst possible enviroment to find coping mechanisms.

In terms of society, he surely isen't much but a symptom of some pockets of society being horribly evil and destructive.

@nazgul removing empathy is essential for right wing radicalization. Executing on empathy is the core of progressive values.
@nazgul Given how Tesla's sales are tanking around the world, buying one is an act of empathy towards Musk.
@ThePolishDispatch @nazgul Musk actually has taken advantage of another kind of exploit. Trust. Every year at his fancy company announcements he gets on stage and promises something; it never comes, and then he just does it again next year. The insane thing to me is that it's one thing to do this with individuals he does it to companies too. Pepsi still doesn't have all the Tesla Semis they were promised. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-semi-trucks-short-supply-pepsico-its-rivals-use-competing-ev-big-rigs-2024-04-19/

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The popular response of things like #TeslaTakedown is to cut his personal fortune by a proportional amount and see how he likes it

#Billionaires have no right to exist

There’s empathy is in the fact that if the lose their money they won’t be billionaires so they can just face fraud and other charges

@nazgul

psychopaths say evil shit like this

psychopaths

@nazgul Or as he memorably said when asked about risks to his factory workers pressed into turning up during the pandemic, "People die."

Elon Musk
1972–20XX
"People Die"

Some legacy.

@nazgul

Look up recent Marc Andreessen podcasts interviews. Hear him talk about "slave morality" we get from Christianity. Where to suffer is virtuous, being weak is good, inflicting suffering is bad.

Contrasts that with "master morality", where might is right, the winners are virtuous. The losers deserve all the bad things, suffering shame etc that hits them. Like in the pre-Christian pagan Roman empire. That's where the Roman (not nazi) salutes come in.

Think that's the (master-ha!) idea.

@nazgul “The death of human empathy is one of the earliest and most telling signs of a culture about to fall into barbarism." – Hannah Arendt