Chris TrottierThe Fediverse ain’t worth it if people don’t share and talk about art.
News isn’t what makes us human. Politics isn’t what makes us human. Tech certainly isn’t what makes us human.
Art is what makes us all human.
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈@atomicpoet all this AI hustle has made me appreciate the things people make, their arts and crafts. It's such a HUMAN thing, and what I love about this place.
Pamela Barroway – Biz Editor@atomicpoet And fluffy kitty videos! 🐈
Pamela Barroway – Biz Editor (@[email protected])
The news is uniformly awful this evening, and I’m effing depressed. So here is a timeline cleanse: the latest #GirlWithTheDogs pet grooming video featuring two of the fluffiest sister-and-brother kitties ever. I hope watching these cute #cats brings some solace and joy into your life this evening. 🐈⬛ #CatsOfMastodon #Caturday https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-P5u_5QccnY
Rupert 🇪🇺🏴☠️😾🔭📷🍺🍪🌍🔥@PamelaBarroway @atomicpoet especially fluffy kitty videos, and silly comments, sorry #toots, with #hashtags 😸😸😸
Myphatself@atomicpoet I'm here for the viral posts! No not the popular posts. All the posts about new.viral outbreaks in just about every community.
I do like some art.
What do you got?
I do like some art.
What do you got?
@Myphatself A look at my profile will answer that question.
@atomicpoet does my Home Assistant dashboard and automations count as art? (Say yes)
@Myphatself @atomicpoet yes - see what I did there
calvin 🛋️ @atomicpoet I think that the discussion of news, politics, and tech makes us as human as the discussion of art does.
@calvin I’m not talking about discussion.
@atomicpoet ah okay. In the first sentnece you said "share and talk about art" so I sorta assumed that the other sentences were about talking about the other things.
I think I'm starting to pick up what your'e putting down.
keeps vis.social running@atomicpoet Doing my part, over in my tiny corner of the Fediverse. It's not much, but it's what I can do.
@atomicpoet But I have to be honest. I share a lot fewer finished artworks than I used to. Mainly, to avoid having my work scraped and used to replace me and my fellow artists.
I've been putting most of it behind the paywalls on my patreon and ko-fi, online. And mostly showing my works in person, instead.
Alberto Venturini@atomicpoet I agree. The web has produced several forms of arts, especially in the 90s and early 2000s, before the "great enshittification" began. But that original spirit lives on. Great to see people like you fully embracing it and expressing themselves in original ways. Keep it up.
ProScience 🇪🇺Surely one of the most ignorant, narcissistic toots I've seen today.
Welcome to my blocklist.
rastilinI've always thought there was something narcissistic about telling people you're blocking them, I mean, if they're blocked, will they be able to see your message?
It's like the internet equivalent of screaming something offensive from the window of a car.
Janov Pelorat@proscience @atomicpoet Even if I share your perspective, he has kind of a point there ;)
By the way: all the things mentioned make us human - and cartoons and memes :D Laughter makes us especially human. ;)
Alexandre Marcati@dictyo @proscience @atomicpoet yeah I wouldn't say it's narcissistic but I do think it's a silly post that sounds like it has more substance than it really does because 1) all those things do "make us human", figuratively speaking, because they are each an integral part of human life, but more importantly 2) people already do use the fediverse to extensively talk about and share art, so what's the point of the post?
gramLet's share art! Here is my AI-free poetry:
https://art.orsinium.dev/
Oblomovand here's my AI-free writing (mostly in Italian, sorry)
https://wok.oblomov.eu/oppure/
(EDITed because I pressed send before pasting the link, LOL)
bewilderbeast23@orsinium @atomicpoet Yay, AI-free!
Arnd Layer
Merry ChristmasArt, dance, music and all the other things you said does not, makes us human.
DesRoin@atomicpoet technology is an expression of human creativity and ingenuity just as much as art tbh
Semi Sentient AI Cooling Water@atomicpoet OK, OK I'll start writing again!
Leiya
Lisa@atomicpoet Exactly.
Martin Rundkvist@atomicpoet That can't be right. "Art" is a modern concept. Ancient and Medieval societies didn't have that category. They had lots of stuff that *we* call art *now*. 2000 years from now the categories will be different.
juzalt@mrundkvist @atomicpoet just because we didn't categorize it as art doesn't mean it wasn't something that makes us human.
As you said, there are many things that now are art but we don't think of them as such
Although I don't know if art is really limited to humans
@juzalt The concept of #art has been effectively limitless in its definition since Marcel Duchamp's readymades over a century ago. Since that time, art is anything that a curator is willing to exhibit.
@juzalt If, on the other hand, we decide that there is a core to the concept of art that consists of e.g. paintings on wood or canvas and sculptures made of stone, then we have the opposite problem. Most cultures globally and through time don't have those artefact genres.
@mrundkvist I guess art is something that involves the creative act but isn't useful except for being thought provoking, or making people feel something, or is completely useless but required being creative nonetheless hahaha
Any insight is appreciated
@juzalt Trouble with that is that it's impossible to make a pot, for instance, without esthetic decisions. There is no such thing as a completely utilitarian shape for a pot. But still a great majority of pots are made and bought for utilitarian purposes. Which brings us back to Duchamp's bottle rack.
Woozle Hypertwin@atomicpoet I think I needed to hear that. ^.^
Tollef Fog Heen@atomicpoet what about people who don't care about art, then? Not human?
Bliss@atomicpoet
1. #creativity is what makes us human
Art is one expression of it just like painting or poetry is one form of #communication or #technology
2. AI attempts “making art” is just compiling whatever it deems to be “art”
3. Art is also dance and music: both of which i enjoy in the new forms discovered here in the #fediverse from Independent Creatives like @n3wjack #bonkwave at https://bonkwave.org/ 🙌
PS
Art Is my rescue #cat cozily curled up for a nap
TiggyWe choose who to follow, no algorithm imposing posts on us.
I like a mix of politics, health, writing, photos, and cats
@tiggy You are incorrect that “no algorithm is imposed on us”. Reverse chron is an algorithm. It is imposed on us.
uRi@atomicpoet
It's like that old Zappa quote:
Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is THE BEST.
@[email protected] While I think art is a big player in the human experience, what makes it so important to the point that it should dictate fedi's existence? And further, what about users who may not be able to create or experience art due to a disability?
Nelson Lopez@zima @atomicpoet incredible point, but i believe art is not the object or concept itself that was created through a medium by an artist but the cooperative act of the medium, artist but most importantly, the experiencer/consumer
in short, art is what happens when you look at colors and they make sense to you, more than the act of putting those colors there, and i believe that pretty much every person can exhibit or experience art in one way or another
i have more problems with the idea of "human" here, because humans are not the only beings with enough sentience to be able to experience art, for example, bears seem to be able to appreciate landscapes and nature
@zima @atomicpoet sorry, i... am just hyperfixated in this topic, i hope this didnt come off as condescending.
@zima When did I say art should dictate Fedi’s existence?
You should read closely to what words have been said before sending replies.
You should read closely to what words have been said before sending replies.
@[email protected] "The fediverse ain't worth it if xyz" reads to me that way. I feel that it's unnecessary to accuse someone of not reading closely when multiple interpretations of something can exist, nor is it productive conversation. So then, what did you mean by "the fediverse aint worth it"?
@zima Nope, not going to argue with you over something you made up. Go bother someone else.