Paul Haddad 
One interesting thing I haven't seen mentioned is that the M4 Mini Pro SSD is faster at comparable sizes compared to the M4 Mini. Turns out the modules are pretty different between the two. Also interesting the Pro uses cooling system uses copper vs aluminum on the regular (similar to Studio Ultra vs Max).
Steve@paul wait, they're not soldered down? I kind of assumed that the storage was š
Michael Kinder@paul What I don't understand is why Apple makes the storage modular if it's not going to be user-upgradeable. We saw the same thing when the Mac Studio came out, and it was rumored that Apple would start selling upgrade kits, but that still hasn't happened.
Ian Fogg
Bruno Scheele@paul These photos would make excellent drive icons š
Wolfgang Lutz@brunoscheele @paul looks a bit like āPicasso draws the finderā
Louie Mantia, Jr. (@[email protected])
Attached: 3 images Iād like to share three Finder icons I made recently that I really love. The first is based on the iconic Phantom of the Opera(ting System), with a mask covering a scarred face. I had to switch it to the opposite side to make it work for the icon. The second is a Picasso-inspired Finder, which is based on his 1934 painting Two Girls Reading. The third is based on kabuki face paint, kumadori. Red usually is symbolic of the hero, while blue is the villain. š https://lmnt.me/blog/icons/finders-keepers-vol-2.html
multigreg@paul Looks like that was already the case for M1 to M3 https://www.mac4ever.com/mac/179994-test-des-debits-ssd-des-macbook-pro-m3-m3-pro-et-m3-max
John Siracusa@paul Where did you get these images? Is there an M4 Pro Mac mini teardown somewhere?
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Riaz Ur Rahaman@riazrahaman @siracusa @paul some recently passed right to repair law kinda forced them to provide service manual I think
@paul Also, do you have a link for the performance comparison?
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Someone has at least said the SSD has a daughterboard that at very least might call for despoldering resoldering, and control chips that might keep upgrades in house as Apple warrants and charges, rather than allowing an less expensive alternative from OWC or such.
External SSD expansion is still probably the easier and cheaper if slower and bulkier only route. From what Iāve heard.
Chris@siracusa I couldnāt find one when I looked that compared both at the same size. I used https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/desktop-computers/mac-mini-m4-review#section-mac-mini-m4-specs and compared it to my M4 Pro 512GB.
Just found this thread talking about it https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ssd-speed-vs-size.2442231 has a few results though I don't think any that has both from the same person.
@paul What was the numeric result from your Mac mini?
@siracusa have it on here for a few machines https://tapbots.social/@paul/113450383217429819
Paul Haddad :tapbots_logo: (@[email protected])
Attached: 3 images The M4 256GB is faster than the M2 256GB, but no where near as fast as the M4-Pro 512GB.
Bill Rosetti
Saagar Jha@paul Itās interesting that it seems like they swapped the positions of the SSD and whatever is in that other space
@saagar I don't think there's anything in those spots, just empty space at least that's what it looks like from this video.
https://youtu.be/I3Jg9pInnag?si=13jePGCuXKgs_kly&t=457
https://youtu.be/I3Jg9pInnag?si=13jePGCuXKgs_kly&t=457
Replacing my $8000 Mac Pro with a $1400 Mac mini!
@paul It doesnāt look like they looked at whatās under the covering?