My dad said something interesting as I was looking at apartments overseas.

"We have had it too easy in America, and we've gotten soft as a culture. The places you are looking have had real trouble and huge changes and struggles in living memory - they are more careful to guard democracy."

I have never heard the "gotten soft" thing turned around like that by a boomer. It's true, though. The places I am looking have had major political upheaval in the memory of his generation at least, and the last real struggle for justice, fairness, and democracy we've felt as a holistic nation (and not just activists or veterans like me) was WWII in a lot of ways. Most of those veterans are gone, now.

The collective memory loss is really scary as a global trend. We have to get better at teaching history.

@hacks4pancakes welcome to the Problem Germany is facing rn. Our youth is voting far right in increasing numbers.
@odr_k4tana We have our own even worse problems, so I didn't want to point fingers at another country, but I am very afraid for you, too.
@odr_k4tana Fun fact, my family on one side is German, but very liberal and got out before WWII. I'm just removed from being able to speak German or get birthright citizenship. It hurts me too to see this happen again.
@hacks4pancakes

I'm currently going through the process of claiming German citizenship through the laws that were passed in 2021. My family left Germany in 1950.

I know you said you're not eligible for birthright citizenship anywhere, but if you haven't investigated claiming citizenship specifically through the §5 STaG process it's possible you're eligible. It's more permissive than previous laws and doesn't require language fluency.

My lawyer's site has more info:
https://amigerman.com/en/reobtaining-citizenship/5-stag-acquisition-by-declaration/

Get that EU passport!
NEW § 5 StAG Acquisition by declaration - AMIGERMAN

AMIGERMAN
@julie I haven’t seen anything that says you can skip a generation. My great grandparents were German.
@hacks4pancakes

STaG 5 is correcting gender discrimination in citizenship claims. If you have a female ancestor who would have been able to pass on citizenship if she was male, or lost citizenship because she married a foreigner, you're very much eligible. In this case provided none of your eligible ancestors gave up their German citizenship you're good to make a claim.

My mom's mom lost her German citizenship by marrying a foreigner. That's my qualifying event.

You may also be eligible if, say, your mom's parents were German but she didn't qualify for giving you citizenship because it wasn't patrilineal. Had my grandmother married a German I would be eligible in this situation because I didn't inherit citizenship through her automatically. If your ancestors are on your dad's side it's probably more complicated.

[Saw you edited while I was writing. You could still be eligible with great grandparents but again this process requires gender discrimination]

[Edited for clarity]
@hacks4pancakes

A potential STaG 5 qualifying situation with great grandparents:

* Your great grandparents were German citizens and left Germany
* Your great grandparents did not relinquish their German citizenship and had a daughter, your grandmother.
* Your grandmother was not eligible to pass on her German citizenship inherited from her parents because of sexist German laws
* Your parent did not inherit said citizenship to pass along to you

In that case it wouldn't matter if that was your grandmother or your mother, you'd be eligible under STaG 5 to make a claim. If it was your grandmother, your parent would be able to claim as well.

If this doesn't help you, hopefully it helps someone else. I know Germany has some of the same struggles we are having in the US right now so it's not some utopia, but it's a gateway into the EU and having options is good.
@julie I’ll explore it again. It was her mom.

@hacks4pancakes @julie also there are various other options one may be eligible under.

  • Besides the official material at @bamf 's Website I'd recommend to consult a lawyer spechalized in migration and residency law, like @marcel ...
Migration & residence

Planning to come and work in Germany, or to join your spouse or your family? Or would you like to study at a German University? Visit our section on “Migration and residence”, and you will find out about the various different preconditions for living in Germany. You can also find out about here about the right to asylum.

BAMF - Bundesamt für Migration und Flüchtlinge

@julie @hacks4pancakes it's also the passport with the most visa-free entries and permanent residency options (beyond EU & EFTA freedom of movement).

On top of that you don't even need a permit to retain existing citizenships and if your grandparents fled after 1933 or got their citizenship revoked by the Nazis, then said denaturalization is basically null and void including descendants...

#NotLegalAdvice tho...
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@[email protected] @[email protected] also there are various other options one may be eligible under. - Besides the official material at @[email protected] 's [Website](https://www.bamf.de/EN/Themen/MigrationAufenthalt/migrationaufenthalt-node.html) I'd recommend to consult a lawyer spechalized in migration and residency law, like @[email protected] ...

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@odr_k4tana @hacks4pancakes yeah, Zoomers basically get constantly assaulted with Neonazi Propaganda on all the Antisocial media may he one thing - worse even is that all the existing Parties decide to copy ravist and facist talking points and the only party in the federal parlament who categorically rejected the next roundof facist laws (not because they ain't facist enoigh is the pityful excuse that is the left party after The big Putin Fangirl & Rosa Luxenburg Cosplayer left the ruins with her groupies...

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