I can't even find the words. Like, just stop being weird to women.

#tech #infosec #technology

@LilahTovMoon Who thought that actual lampshading was at all acceptable?
@LilahTovMoon give me a dude in a dress wearing a lampshade on his head too

- posted by Thio
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Please tell me they are maniquines?
@peribotsarah @LilahTovMoon women, who are basically blind folded and forced to pose for photos with people
@LilahTovMoon how to say "we don't have a DEI department" without saying "we don't have a DEI department"
@Dofain @LilahTovMoon how to say I am utterly culturally and socially inept with absolutely no ability to read the room, and only got my job in the marketing department because I was at school with Tarquin without saying...
@LilahTovMoon the marketing exec still has HIS job

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So mannequins are the only "women" that will hang with those incel goons?

That's the vibe I'm getting.

@LilahTovMoon Wait ... I just read the alt text.

You mean those aren't mannequins (which would have been bad enough)? Those are actual people wearing lampshades on their heads?

I thought the "booth babes" phase was dead and gone.

*sigh*

https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/14/palo_alto_networks_execs_apologize/

Palo Alto Networks execs apologize for 'hostesses' dressed as lamps at Black Hat booth

Biz admits turning human women into faceless, sexualized furniture was a 'tone deaf' marketing ploy

The Register
@ahimsa_pdx @LilahTovMoon denigration of women as always
@LilahTovMoon What the? This is "objectivication" made literal ... what does this even try to say? This makes about as much sense as a man milking Skittles from a giraffe... so many questions ... 🫠🤦🤯

@LilahTovMoon What I don’t get is how men don’t see this as offensive to both women AND men, the former for obvious reasons for anyone reading this, and the latter because it’s saying “You people are so easy to manipulate we can stick a lamp on a woman’s head and we’ll still get you.”

I guess you have to have a baseline sense of self-respect within the context of being a human being who exists within and yet also beyond their own sexuality to feel offended.

@LilahTovMoon the line I remember is from Soylent Green, where women are included as part of a housing package and are referred to as 'furniture', and dismissed as such.

Boys, A tech con booth is not the place for your appliances fetish (it was definitely boys who dreamt this up).

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First couches, now lamps

Really?!?

@LilahTovMoon quite illuminating about their values/beliefs
@LilahTovMoon like making them wear lampshade hats?
@LilahTovMoon Are those actual live human women participating in this? God. The greatest achievement of the patriarchy is to get women to raise girls who turn into women who participate in THIS.
@Nonya_Bidniss maybe keep the blame on the (almost certainly) men who came up with the idea, and not the women who were probably only given details of what they were to do at the last minute?
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@Tattie @LilahTovMoon I think what you might miss is that at the root of it I *am* blaming men. It's hard to see that I'm blaming men but there is a whole lifelong system built to raise women to participate in what the men are doing, but it IS the men that are the root of the problem. When women aid patriarchy, when women are raised within patriarchy, patriarchy may succeed, but the problem is still patriarchy.
@Nonya_Bidniss I see blaming patriarchy-in-general as a cop-out. There are specific people to blame here and it's those who chose to design a sales gimmick around female objectification. The models didn't meaningfully choose to promulgate this; they have jobs to keep and bills to pay.
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@Tattie I can see your POV of course. I'm not blaming the women for having been raised in a system that treats them as objects. Lots of women don't even see or realize the system they're in. Which was exactly what I was saying in my first post that you replied to. You can call it a cop out, that's fine, we'll disagree on that. @LilahTovMoon
@LilahTovMoon what that absolute fuck?!
@catsalad @LilahTovMoon those seem to be actual humans. Yeah, that's very odd and vaguely evil.
@LilahTovMoon dafuk is wrong with people? Like it’s hard to “objectify women” any more than that.

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@hacks4pancakes I think you were saying something about something related to this?

@LilahTovMoon ... their job is literally to be furniture. well, damn.
@LilahTovMoon Wait, these are actual women, not manikins? Gross. I mean, either way is awful, but real women is *actually degrading*
@LilahTovMoon I don't even know what's going on here but yeah only women
@LilahTovMoon it would be a great demonstration of lampshading were it not that the marketing people responsible do not actually believe women are human beings.
@LilahTovMoon How much clearer can you make it that women are just props to you yahoos!
@LilahTovMoon I’m a straight dude who’s often in a position to purchase security hardware and there’s no way I’m going anywhere near any booth that does this — both because it’s dehumanizing and because I do not want to look like the kind of incel loser that would be attracted by women-as-furniture.
@LilahTovMoon What the crispy fried fuck is this unaesthetic weirdness?
@LilahTovMoon gotta say though, those are some smashing dresses, wish I had one :/
@LilahTovMoon that's effed up. I'd like to think we're better than that... But we're not.
@LilahTovMoon i think wearing lampshades is fashionable personally /j
@LilahTovMoon Is that... is that from this year? Please say no, and this is some sort of archival photo.

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the individual who had this idea should be the one wearing that whole costume and dress and standing in place as signage.

@LilahTovMoon Ouate de Phoque.... not that I'm gonna be in a position to buy network gear for a while, but when I do, I'm not buying PaloAlto EVER.