TrusmanJun 21, 2024
muesli

"YouTube confirms crackdown on VPN users accessing cheaper Premium plans"

No, listen, you just don't understand.

If Google pays taxes in a random country to cheat the system and save money, that's because "Globalism".

If you do it, you get banned though.

Jun 21, 2024 at 11:44amMastodon for Android
Show threadAlerta! Alerta!Jun 21, 2024
@fribbledom some are more equal than others....
Show threadGytis RepečkaJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom Depends on who's doing it: it's either tax optimization or breach of terms or services 
Show threadCybarbieJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom premium? lol wat - ppl pay for yt? snortlaugh
Show threadkniggeJun 21, 2024
@nf3xn @fribbledom with Spotify upping prices, yes.
Show threadCybarbieJun 21, 2024
@knigge @fribbledom you use Spotify? eeew 😀
Show threadisabel  Jun 21, 2024
@nf3xn @knigge @fribbledom streaming music is a very popular way of consumption these days. i'm glad you're making your own informed decisions about this but please don't belittle others for their choices.
Show threadprasoonJun 21, 2024
@dxciBel @nf3xn
Shame happens to be a very effective tool to modify corrupt social behaviour. Spotify has demonstrated time and again that it is a bad-actor. If people are still choosing such platforms, the least we must do is shame them (just like we must shame the artists who choose to play within the discriminatory boundaries set by these platforms).
Show threadisabel  Jun 21, 2024
@prasoon @nf3xn yeah pal you try to be an artist these days without having your music up on spotify see how that works out for ya
Show threadprasoonJun 21, 2024
@dxciBel I'm not at artist so, I'm afraid, I only know second hand that to make a living on spotify one needs to have a few million plays. I don't think small artists thrive there anyway. But, if you say that spotify is the only possible way for an artist to make money, I'll take your word for it.
I'll still retain my right to shame someone prioritising a living over ethical social behaviour, however. If we are really in a hopeless situation, as you point out, all I can do is protest anyway.
Show threadisabel  Jun 21, 2024

@prasoon i never said you'd make money on spotify; you don't. however it has such a huge market share that not making your music available on the service massively hinders your ability to grow as an artist because it's the only way a lot of people consume music these days.

i will also maintain my right to shame people back for being unnecessarily rude under other people's posts.

Show threadprasoonJun 21, 2024
@dxciBel Alright. You'd know best.
Show threadWe Must DissentJun 21, 2024
@dxciBel
Having your music on spotify is fine, using it hurts artists as well as spreds and funds medical misinformation and fasvism (their pivot to podcasts)
@prasoon @nf3xn
Show threadWe Must DissentJun 21, 2024

@dxciBel
https://github.com/jmshrv/finamp

@nf3xn @knigge @fribbledom

GitHub - jmshrv/finamp: A Jellyfin music client for mobile

A Jellyfin music client for mobile. Contribute to jmshrv/finamp development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadisabel  Jun 21, 2024
@MxSpoon i fail to see the part in my post where i asked for software recommendations.
Show threadWe Must DissentJun 21, 2024
@dxciBel
You can stream music without throwing money at few share holders
Show threadisabel  Jun 21, 2024
@MxSpoon okay, cool. i'm not gonna do that tho
Show threadPeter HilgenfeldJun 21, 2024
@MxSpoon @dxciBel
Where do you get the music from? Does that take any extra time from you compared to paying for a streaming service? How do you host your jellyfin server? Does that cost any money or time?
Show threadWe Must DissentJun 21, 2024

@pethil
From your CDs or few thousand / million of your closest friends (redacted.ch orpheus.network)

compared to what you pay? Unless you make something like 30e/hour it is going to be cheaper.

how do you host? On your home PC for the cost of electricity. IP can be bit of a pain depending on your provider. Alternatively you rent a (virtual) server and pay less than two subscriptions per month.

also, you aren't fueling money to the pockets of few shareholders who are actively destroying the industry and, hopefully, archieving the medium
@dxciBel

Show threadtaylor Jun 22, 2024

@MxSpoon @pethil @dxciBel lmfao

> dont pay spotify

instead:

> pirate music instead
> spend time trying to get on redacted & setting up and managing a Jellyfin server
> spend money renting a VPS
> spend money renting a seedbox

Show threadWe Must DissentJun 21, 2024

@knigge
https://redacted.ch/

https://orpheus.network/

Archieve it all!
@nf3xn @fribbledom

Redacted

Show threadenoch_exe_incJun 21, 2024
@nf3xn @fribbledom I’m too poor to pay for Netflix, let alone YouTube; but even if I could, why should I?
Show threadWe Must DissentJun 21, 2024
@enoch_exe_inc
At least youtube premium throws a noticeable slice towards the peopleaking the content. Still better to just not use youtube and throw a few bucks every now and then at them *and* it costs less
@nf3xn @fribbledom
Show threadTicktokJun 22, 2024
@enoch_exe_inc @[email protected] @fribbledom if you use YouTube often on mobile and aren't tech savvy enough to go through the revanced process or find a trustable youtube alternative interface app, the endless advertisements can become worth the money. Also, if you choose to use youtube music rather than Spotify you can get that plus removing the ads.
Show threadenoch_exe_incJun 22, 2024
@ticktok @enoch_exe_inc @fribbledom I have Adblock on my phone.
Show threadTicktokJun 22, 2024
@enoch_exe_inc @fribbledom congratulations
Show threadVadim RutkovskyJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom information superhighway (applies to US only)
Show threadChris L-W👻🚫Jun 21, 2024

@fribbledom now, now, just remember, when corporations or billionaires utilize methods to save on taxes they are called Tax Instruments, which is perfectly OK.

But for anyone else, it is tax fraud. 🤣

Show threadTesmaiaJun 21, 2024
@chrislw That's because you actually need to set up a legal entity in the other country for it to not be fraud, that's how it works, that's how they make sure that only rich people get access to these mechanisms after all.
Show threaddustyworm  Jun 21, 2024

@fribbledom

One of the laws of life. Big fish eat little fish.

Show threadBrand_RJul 30, 2024
@dustyworm @fribbledom True. But wolves work together to kill and eat moose.
Show threadCaptain Jack SparrowJun 21, 2024

@fribbledom

The solution is to not pay any #youtube premium plan at all.

Show threadTobiasJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom So nämlich
Show threadNatsura Jun 21, 2024
@fribbledom Google is just one of the worst companies ever... sometimes i dunno which is worse Google or Adobe
Show thread🖤 vea 💖Jun 21, 2024
@Natsura @fribbledom easily google just based on the volume of money
Show threadradentscheiderin :ferris:Jun 21, 2024
@fribbledom huh, never thought about it this way
Show threadizanJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom YouTube can miss me with that bullshit. All they're doing is making me want to go even more out of my way to not pay them, and not see ads.
Show threadLacyGreenfelderJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom Invidious, Newpipe and Freetube are your responses for this. Just hoping that these services keep working even after Google attempts to inutilize them.
Show threadLewis EdwardsJun 21, 2024

@fribbledom

Corporations are smart.
Customers are thieves.

Show threadBen LeggettJun 21, 2024

@fribbledom

Piketty's "it's not 'left' or 'right', it's two axes, egalitarian (or not) and nativist (or not), and globalists are just inegalitarian non-nativists"

Show threadLondon Eastfield 🇵🇸Jun 21, 2024
@fribbledom I'm starting to sound like a broken LP, but:
I say this with all sincerity: FUCK GOOGLE.
Show threadseism0saurusJun 21, 2024

@fribbledom

Of course. Only companies and rich people are allowed to benefit from the capitalistic system. Not the average and definitely not the poor. It's shitty by design.

Show threadMennoJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom
Look, it's all about legal framework.
You need to send them a notarized certificate that your official chosen place of residence is in Mumbai or so, and that's it.
Show threadMartijn FrazerJun 21, 2024

@fribbledom EU law states that you should have access to digital services you're paying for within the entire EU, regardless of the country you are in.

It's literally illegal for Google to geoblock content you've bought in, say, Poland (where YT Premium is $6.50) while you're in, for example, Germany (where YT Premium is $14).

Show threadBig Head TalesJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom
Google would have a better argument if they paid taxes based upon the country their viewers were in.
Show threadAdlangxJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom just don't watch YouTube, problem solved
Show threadDomobert Dak   Jun 23, 2024
@lightninhopkins @fribbledom

No, keep watching Youtube but use Invidious & Co. Giving up is not a solution.
Show threadferricoxideJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom

That'd be like Pfizer (et al) sending you a letter saying "you can't buy any of our drugs, any more, because we found out you went to Canada for a better deal".
Show threadToni AittoniemiJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Show threadferricoxideJun 21, 2024
@fribbledom

If I lift too much content from a reference and put it into my term paper, it's plagiariasm. If a multinational tech company wholesale ingests data to feed their AI offerings, it's just good business sense.
Show threadOrb 2069Jun 21, 2024

@fribbledom

Pick one near you and enjoy! Tip what you like.

https://docs.invidious.io/instances/

(Clipious is the Android compatable client. It's not available on the play store: try f-droid or Obtainum )

Invidious Instances - Invidious Documentation

The official Invidious documentation

Show threadertnJun 22, 2024
@fribbledom not evil. there is no point.
Show threadmikiJun 22, 2024
@fribbledom The alternative to this policy isn't what you think it is, the alternative is a single price for everybody and massive discrimination against third-world countries. That's what any company would be forced to do if this was illegal.