Antero HytönenJun 20, 2024
Proton

"The fact that the EU interior ministers want to exempt police officers, soldiers, intelligence officers and even themselves from chat control scanning proves that they know exactly just how unreliable and dangerous the snooping algorithms are that they want to unleash on us citizens."

https://www.eureporter.co/business/data/mass-surveillance-data/2024/04/15/leak-eu-interior-ministers-want-to-exempt-themselves-from-chat-control-bulk-scanning-of-private-messages/

Leak: EU interior ministers want to exempt themselves from chat control bulk scanning of private messages

According to the latest draft text of the controversial EU Child Sexual Abuse Regulation proposal leaked by the French news organisation Contexte, EU interior ministers want to exempt professional accounts of staff of intelligence agencies, police and military from the envisaged scanning of chats and messages (Article 1 (2a)). The regulation should also not apply […]

Jun 20, 2024 at 4:34pmWeb
Show threadTiKXIJun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy People should really be roaring about this but nothing.... click bait celebrity headlines get the most views or am I wrong?
Show threadMax L.Jun 21, 2024
@TiKXI A lot of people did hence why a lot of countries voiced their opposition and Belgium removed it from being voted on yesterday... now we "just" need to stop it again in a couple months when Hungary potentially tries to get it done -.-'
Show threadTiKXIJun 21, 2024
@max that's agood thing to hear, now we "just" need.
Show threadlj·rkJun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy Proposal: Have only police, military intelligence and ministers scanned. Will be actually helpful, especially with all the right wing shit within the LEOs.
Show threadRolingMetalJun 20, 2024

@protonprivacy

We should all sign the EDRi petition; https://crm.edri.org/stop-scanning-me
And watch some youtube; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViirnWnoreA

Children deserve a secure and safe internet | EDRi CiviCRM

Show threadRobJun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy The EU behaving like the SS...most people on the street don't even know about chat control, or that such a thing is being talked about, and that they're using CSAM to push it through, when it'll actually make investigations harder. Then again many things the EU decide, many people only know about when its all been decided.
Show threadꓤɔᴉʇɐʇSJun 21, 2024
@robchapman @protonprivacy Even if it was perfectly safe and effective at the stated goal of preventing csam, the fact that there's any exceptions at all means that the people looking to commit such a sin are just gonna work towards getting into an exemt position so in the mid to long term that just gonna result in all the pedos becoming officers, soldiers and politicians so we end up with the criminals putting themselves in charge of percecuting the crime.
Show threadRobJun 21, 2024
@StaticR @protonprivacy Its not right however you frame it, but using kids as your lever, shows they really don't have any interest in kids, just in wholesale collection of every private word made electronically. Criminal networks will simply go back underground - I guess the crime stats will be lower, so they can then say "They did their job!"
Its telling that when the EU presidency rotates to Hungary,, that they are chomping at the bit to build a framework and progress this mass surveillance!
Show threadRenéJun 20, 2024
@bert_hubert Kijk, dat wist ik nog niet, politici, politie etc. Willen zich uitsluiten van de chatcontrole #css
Show threadDominikJun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy What a surprise, politicians are hypocrites! Counter proposition: Make all politician chats public. We're paying them, after all.
Show threadꓤɔᴉʇɐʇSJun 21, 2024

@chrastecky @protonprivacy Not gonna lie this should just be a given anyways. They are public figures who are in charge of shaping the public so everything they do should obiously be public.

If I was a politician I'd be livestreaming myself 24/7.

Show threadMark R. StonemanJun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy This is gonna kill Europe's current image advantage as a privacy-focused place as far as tech services are concerned.
Show threadsaturataJun 20, 2024

@protonprivacy

As I already wrote another day: We should decrypt and publish those who think they are exempted from #chatcontrol.
That would offer them a completely new perspective to the problem. I'll start preparing something ...

Show threadenoch_exe_incJun 20, 2024

@protonprivacy Well, that’s one way to maximise corruption and enable the systemwide abuse of power at everybody’s expense.

The “child protection” rhetoric has absolutely nothing to do with “protecting children” and everything to do with power and control. Always has. In fact, it’s been like this for decades. Kids today have even fewer rights than I did twenty years ago.

Show threadPaladin  Jun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy But of course.
Show threadniniJun 20, 2024
@[email protected] It proves either that or that they are not honest actors.
Show threadC.Suthorn Jun 20, 2024

@protonprivacy

Das ist auch sehr richtig! Schließlich wissen wir dass soldaten uns alle mit der waffe in der hand verteidigen und niemals kinder mißbrauchen. Und Geheimdienstler natürlich auch nicht. Und polizisten und innenminister. Es würde auch unnötig ressourcen binden, nicht nur die 400 millionen EU-bürger zu scannen, sondern auch noch die 4 millionen soldaten und 27 innenminister.

Show threadFormlessOneJun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy "Ruling Class Exempts Themselves From Rules" is never a good look. It's even worse when it's a set of rules allowing arbitrary surveillance...
Show threadAlerta! Alerta!Jun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy As chatcontrolk is only necessary to stop sexual abuse of children.... and one has nothing to fear if one is lawful.... what does that say about those that shall be exempt....
Show threadMadhuJun 20, 2024
cc @EUCommission
Show threadAtkelarJun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy Goose meet Gander. Only totalitarian rulers make rules that exempt themselves. I wonder if this red flag has a white and black centerpiece?
Show threadTimestaticJun 20, 2024
@protonprivacy Good thing it got postponed. They really think we'd stop looking. They keep coming back. We really need to stop this bs and get an EU constitution which establishes fundamental digital privacy of correspondence.
Show threadARWJun 21, 2024
@protonprivacy This x1, 000
Show threadPrincess UnikittyJun 21, 2024
@protonprivacy
"Chat control" is such a dystopian idea
Show threadSkrrp Jun 21, 2024
@protonprivacy if they really cared about children they would end child hunger and child poverty first. Those are simple goals to achieve.
Show threadPoint051Jun 21, 2024
@protonprivacy so ridiculous. Who do they think these people would be talking *to?* do their spouses also get exemption? Mistresses? Informants? Parents? Think about it for five seconds, people.
Show threadLight🐧⁂Jun 21, 2024
@Gothilla @protonprivacy
Probably yes to some degree, but I can imagine people in these circles know how to protect sensitive information and have a bunch of safeguards offered by gov and gov agencies just for them by virtue of their position. And I think people in those positions know if information leaks it can cost their whole carrier easily.
I would rather care about the citizens who are going to be the primary target of mass surveillance as it's always time and time again was the case.
Show threadyuki - queen of the snowJun 21, 2024
@protonprivacy didn't chat control get canned just today though?
Show threadaproitzJun 25, 2024

@protonprivacy

#We sit all in ONE #Boat !!!

#Exclusion of #special #Interest- #Groups would look #unlawful to the #Rest, who should be #surveilled. #EU should #unite #People - not #separate them.

#chatcontrol #chatkontrolle
#dataprotection #dataprot #privacyrights