Listen, I understand that people believe I exist in an endless state of incandescent rage, but they are going to have to invent new words for how angry I am about Glassdoor adding real names without users' consent.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/03/glassdoor-adding-users-real-names-job-info-to-profiles-without-consent/

Users ditch Glassdoor, stunned by site adding real names without consent

Anonymous review site Glassdoor now consults public sources to identify users.

Ars Technica
@evacide not only that but to go in and delete your review I was forced to add at least one job history, write one job review, and enter my salary history for at least one job BEFORE they would let me delete my review and account. Truly horrible
@tstruthers I have exploded with anger. There is now a crater where my office used to be.
@evacide I smashed my mouse and keyboard at least three times yelling at my monitor just let me see my review!!!!

@tstruthers @evacide Yes, I had to go in, navigate a questionnaire flow I could not opt out of, with fields like job title, preferred location, opt out of job offers, then was dumped in a “community”.

Settings (and Profile? view reviews, delete): Delete account. Forced to log in AGAIN to delete my account.

It claims that deleting account removes your reviews, but I deleted my mandatory review (ARGH) manually before deleting, because FTS.

Terrible UX the whole time.

@tstruthers @evacide Glassdoor sent me automated mail “Oops!” saying there is something wrong with the review I submitted and that I have to take action or they won’t post it. This would be about the review I deleted before closing my account.

I have always hated Glassdoor for its coercive review gathering (which thus skews all the data they have to offer). They have a time horizon on reviews that forces people to invent data to add in order to avoid bad employers.

@tstruthers @evacide For anyone trying to navigate Glassdoor's enshittification, one tip on avoiding the questionnaires:

Any time it tries to shunt you into a questionnaire flow, you can instead go directly to a URL like https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/index.htm or https://www.glassdoor.com/member/profile/accountSettings that does not invoke the flow. (The main page does, as does the post-login page.)

I was able to get to the account page and delete all my "contributions" and deactivate my account this way.

You can, of course, also just enter complete garbage information. Flip a coin, keyboard-mash.

Company Salaries

Glassdoor - Free company salaries, bonuses, and total pay for 2488891 companies. All posted anonymously by employees.

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@tstruthers @evacide

Thanks to GDPR I only had to log in and press the "delete my account" button.

@evacide That is royally fucked up. Wow.
@evacide holy shit that is so bad i just had an aneurysm
@evacide i will not be clicking that link and finding out more until i'm in a better place emotionally, tyvm
@evacide What. The. Actual. FUCK
@evacide
The commenters below the article are right there with you.
@evacide I’d always been leery about posting there and now am really glad I didn’t. Heinous move here tho I think we have to be similarly cautious with any “career” site including LinkedIn. They are not on the side of workers
@evacide That's particularly horrific considering that many of their users went there to vent anonymously about their employers.
@evacide oh hellll no

@gretared @evacide

Tried to sign in to delete my Glassdoor account and couldn’t get past the indismissible, non-optional modal requiring my first and last name. So instead I submitted the form to delete all my data and close my account.

My experience with Fishbowl was purely as an entity that regularly spammed me with alleged membership requests from a “co-worker.”

GFY Glassbowl/Fishdoor.

@evacide they still don't display your name next to your reviews. are you afraid they'll get hacked or something?
@BernieDoesIt @evacide are we cancelling companies for things they *haven't* done yet?
@schizanon @evacide Nope. We're cancelling the company for violating their users' trust and doing things that have no legitimate business purpose other than abuse.
@schizanon @evacide Who needs hackers, when you have MBAs?
@log @evacide were you under the impression that glassdoor was a non-profit?
@schizanon @evacide No, never trusted them. Sort of assumed all positive reviews were fake. Stopped paying attention when they started locking up the gossip behind an accounts wall.
@schizanon @evacide people want to be anonymous, GD won't allow that, in the event of a data breach it's likely that your name can be linked to a review, and then you lose your job. That's why people are deleting their accounts. Glassdoor is willing to lose people by forcing them to provide a RL ID.

@evacide I just logged in for the sake of "deleting" my account. (I know they won't actually delete the data, but at least it's disabled.) And just to get to the settings screen to delete the account, they start demanding answers to questions. Just insane.

Whatever pudding-brained manager came up with this is gonna get a huge promotion, too. You just know it. All the sensible people will be pushed out for "lack of cultural fit." Metrics will be misread to declare success no matter what.

@wrosecrans @evacide "the metrics will be misread to declare success no matter what" is a nice turn of phrase. It's a truism for any rationalization made anywhere, ever. It's what wars and inequity and oppression itself are built upon.
@evacide even if you have no ethics that seems like a bad business move
@evacide Well, that’s horrifying. I just deleted my account because I cannot afford to do this right now. :(
@evacide If you don’t exist in an endless state of incandescent rage you aren’t paying attention
@ethanwhite @evacide
“That’s my secret, Cap…”
@ethanwhite @evacide if you stay angry you don't need to get angry
@evacide added a link to http://monkeynoodle.org/2024/01/20/nortons-law/ thanks for the prophecy @quinn
Norton’s Law

There’s a great xkcd about the 10,000 people hearing about a thing for the first time today:.. so perhaps today is your day for hearing about Norton’s Law. In 2015, Quinn Norton wrote Norton’s Law …

Monkeynoodle.Org
@evacide Glassdoor has always to my mind been a little sketchy in terms of trust, so can't say I'm totally surprised by this move. Users and their salary data and employee reviews were always the product to sell to the companies who are their actual customers.
@evacide I'm legit baffled by tech companies repeatedly suffering no consequences when they pivot from their stated service provision to whatever the graphs in some consultancy report showed would maximise shareholder value

@evacide

I'll add another note - minor by comparison, but also pretty nasty.

I checked my password manager, and discovered that I had created an account there at some time, which I had totally forgotten.

So I went to sign in and delete the account, and Firefox's Facebook Container flagged for me that the email entry box seems to be set up to run some Javascript from Facebook, meaning Facebook can try to tie your Glassdoor login to any identifying info they have in their system.

@evacide That's so gross.

I was already pretty pissed off with Glassdoor in December when I discovered it was a requirement to add a review and salary info from my current job before I could look at reviews/salaries of the places I was applying for.

I should just delete my account now...

@evacide I knew my paranoia about these types of sites would payoff. I’m safe but pissed that we continually have to worry about shot and hide from our own lives.. 😣
@evacide I always thought you existed in an endless state of incredible gowns, but I’ve been wrong before. 😁
@evacide I am somewhat glad I never used them now
Incandastrophent
@evacide "How to ruin your business model in one easy step!"
@evacide iJUST DELETED MY GLASSDOOR ACCOUNT… AND wanted to thank you my dear! 🙏🏽🥰. - Joe
@evacide Maybe start giving the level of your incandescent rage in Kelvin?
@evacide is anyone in the replies actually reading the article? It doesn't display these names on reviews.
@evacide Worth noting that the "delete my data" language suggests that the data might not be deleted, but instead "anonymized," which - as many have said before me - leaves open the possibility of re-identification.

@evacide

may we all be lit by the righteous fire of incandescent rage! now's the time.

@evacide agree it is a bad move, but who uses Google/Farsebook "easy login" to a site that post anonymously ...
@evacide Def important to manually delete your content before deactivating because they clearly intend to keep your content “anonymized” even when you request a delete. 🤬
@evacide So... What non-shitty service can we use instead. Something community owned, maybe fediverse oriented?
@evacide shit like this is the reason I stopped signing up for social sites.

@evacide

Nothng is solid anymore.

We comprise our virtuality.

Our money and much of our ‘wealth’ is for all intents virtual.

We still eat, yes.

But all this other stuff sits primed to flap whatever way the winds blow.

Every digital asset we know is suspect.

It’s sobering.

@evacide @jenn i think that article is written in a misleading way. I mean, it’s bad that they’re collecting real names, but they aren’t actually posting the real names

@jes5199 @evacide @jenn

The enshittification curve of these services suggests that they can go from "Don't worry, we are collecting it for verification only" to "We'll happily sell this data to employers" very easily, and very quickly.