Matt BlazeI'm not especially interested in the recent/ongoing AI company drama, but I find it hard to imagine that MS could make such a quick decision and close the deal on a major hire like this if things hadn't already been in the works for a while.
Also, unusually for major executive shakeup dramas, at least so far it appears that no one was sexually assaulted.
… and, it appears I may be wrong about that. Can we please have a wholesome CEO scandal for a change? Something just involving plain old embezzlement or fraud?
Christie Dudley@mattblaze The thing is there was no real, tangible wrongdoing actually associated with Altman's ouster. All I can discern is he waffled too much for the 3 person board's liking.
Grumble@longobord @mattblaze The question is, what was he waffling *about*?
Conventional wisdom for CEO firings:
19/20 chance it was money, 1/20 chance it was an ugly felony.
Artemesia@artemesia We can look back at that case as a product of more innocent times.
For I am CJ 
Samsung's got you covered.. Embezzlement and Bribery are long held family traditions.
I)ruid@mattblaze FTX one year ago. Plain old embezzlement & fraud (:
Guillaume Ross@mattblaze well he’s been accused of it, even though that doesn’t seem related
ZetaZetan@g @mattblaze The fact that the accusations are not what got him fired makes me go:
The Good Place: "Ok, but that's worse. You do get how that's worse, right?"
@mattblaze Altman's sister was, apparently.
hyper
Nicholas Weaver@mattblaze @hyper
It didn't necessarily involve UNDISCLOSED accusations. These were apparently all priced in (and discounted to a great degree in no small part because of his sister's profession)
It didn't necessarily involve UNDISCLOSED accusations. These were apparently all priced in (and discounted to a great degree in no small part because of his sister's profession)
John Brewer
THIS ACCOUNT HAS MOVED
Quinn Norton@mattblaze or they were at least thinking about how to do it, and then went for it when the opportunity came
Lauren Weinstein@mattblaze Don't assume there's necessarily planning and logic behind such moves. Think about Musk and Twitter.
Matthew J. Barnard🤔💭@mattblaze I just figured they were desperate to get them working on something Microsoft can actually own.
> that MS could make such a quick decision and close the deal on a major hire like this
I am reminded of that time microsoft hired away most of sybase' engineering staff.
Brandon@mattblaze It may have been posturing to secure MS stock. I think it's a safeguard for both Sam and MS stock.
synlogic@mattblaze agreed. it all feels like kabuki theatre
I'm +1 on theory that OpenAI has been a de facto "arm's length" R&D arm of Microsoft for a while now, for various reasons of deniability and/or tax purposes. and now MS and Sam are simply ending the ruse
Steve's Place@mattblaze That may be, but if you were trying to launch rockets and doing it badly, if Werner Von Braun knocked on your door, looking for a job, it would be a no-brainer. Microsoft was far behind in the race to catch the AI cash cow. Now they're not so far behind. Maybe they colluded. I'm not so sure.
Ken Kinder 
@mattblaze I mean it came from on high directly from the CEO.
Max Leibman has moved!@mattblaze I feel like that has been the story of Microsoft for the last year: moving way faster than normal—both for a megacorp in general and especially for MICROSOFT.
Jamie BoothAll in the name of Shareholder value, my friend. It can unlock a lot of red tape.
Cat West@mattblaze Clearly