Mastodawn

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP
Might also be worth to go over FOSS privacy respecting mobile apps someday, though I know it'd be a bit unusual.
I also recommend looking through GitHub - there are lists of trustworthy FOSS software on there, sorted by categories.

@Xtrems876 I’ll add that to the list!

Scruffy Dux

Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP @Xtrems876 On that topic, Saber is a handwriting notes app on mobile and desktop that deserves community attention. FOSS, cross platform, with Nextcloud integration. I use it daily.

Samuel Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP You got a Thunderbird placement? Cool! 😎.

It's not free software but for those who need Acrobat Pro or Photoshop on Linux. Adobe now has a web version of both programs that runs in the browser (Photoshop only in Chromium-based browsers). You need the CC subscription.

But if you get a PSD and you need to open it briefly or do some minor editing, the web version is very good - definitely better than Gimp.

Luciano

Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP I like how all your videos where you showcase software have some kind of "Easter egg". Like today's "CLICKBAITY VIDEO FOR DAT $$$". They're funny!

@curiousluciano Haha well, I try to make a few things funnier, especially when talking about productivity apps, to avoid being too drab!

Ace120C Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP holy s**t, I did not know that obsidian was not open source, I already assumed that it was.

though, luckily there is affine which is another alternative to obsidian, perhaps I can that more than obsidian and later move my workflow towares affine instead

Ace120C Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP logsec is also decent while looking at it, idk I'll decide later

@vegetotownley @thelinuxEXP

#SiYuan is probably the closest to #Obsidian but #FOSS

The only disadvantage is that it uses a JSON file for each page instead of Markdown files, but the import/export is excellent and integrates #Pandoc

@alxlg @vegetotownley @thelinuxEXP Given some of the recent paygate stuff on some features, I am not quite sure that SiYuan is GPL-compliant anymore.

Ace120C Sep 24, 2023

@spinningthoughts @alxlg @thelinuxEXP there is also affine which is similar to obsidian imo

@vegetotownley @alxlg @thelinuxEXP Affine has some of the ideas but is more about running on a server per se than running locally. It also lacks the scripting engines available in Obsidian for generating note titles and note content. The later is honestly pretty pivotal to how Obsidian behaves (especially for me) and I have not seen it replicated, in general.

Affine also does a lot of SEO-optimized blog stuff that feels… weird.

Ace120C Sep 24, 2023

@spinningthoughts @alxlg @thelinuxEXP fair enough.

@vegetotownley @spinningthoughts @thelinuxEXP

Alex L 🕊 🇵🇸Sep 25, 2023

Affine has no mobile apps yet, that is a crucial point and hard to get right.

Ace120C Sep 25, 2023

@alxlg @spinningthoughts @thelinuxEXP true

Sevoris Sep 25, 2023

@alxlg @vegetotownley @thelinuxEXP Especially with Affine‘s whole idea that every linear file also decomposes into a whiteboard (and back)

The original authors can release a version with a different and more restrictive license or that include closed source binary blobs, it's what Logseq does too. It's people forking it that can't. And companies generally handles the implications of having external contributors by requiring them to sign a CLA (Contributor License Agreement).

@alxlg @vegetotownley @thelinuxEXP I am not an expert on the GPL by any means, but my understanding is that using GPL-released code in any kind of larger commercial framework is forbidden. In this case they‘re releasing a product where clearly code blobs are locked behind a lock-in and a paying account, so to me that looks like they created a commercial product on top of the GPL-liscenced codebase, adding on additional features.

If you release something with license X, later *you* can release it (with or without modifications) again with license Y.

X can also be the GPL and Y a paid commercial license.

A license never restricts the rights of the original authors. A license applies to other people, it's what "license" means in the first place.

@alxlg @vegetotownley @thelinuxEXP I am certain that is not correct. For example the Creative Commons liscences are exclusive - they do not allow you to release the same IP under a different liscence. I am unsure if the same applies to GPL, but I would expect this insofar as that the entire *point* of GPL, to my understanding, was to disallow any capture into a commercial project.

Notice that re-releasing with a new license doesn't invalidate the previous one, so for example re-releasing exactly the same thing as CC-BY and later CC-BY-SA or CC-BY-NC doesn't make sense, so maybe this is what you mean?

About the GPL, the purpose is to protect the work of the authors from other people and it does it. Let me stress again that it is the *original authors* that can't be restricted by any license from re-releasing.

@alxlg @vegetotownley @thelinuxEXP No, I mean as in, you put it under CC, you don‘t get to release it under another liscence. Exclusive liscencing is completely a thing.

"Exclusive licensing" means a different thing afaik i.e. only one subject can own it vs multiple subjects as it is the case with CC, GPL and all the licenses we are talking about in this context.

Other contributors to a software release have the same rights on their contributions and they must agree on eventual re-licensing. As I said companies handle this by requiring to sign a CLA for the contributions to be accepted. With the CLA they basically give away some of their rights. And indeed it's CLAs that often rise controversy because it is perceived as taking advantage of other people's work.

https://creativecommons.org/faq/

Then why the official FAQ says "All CC licenses are non-exclusive"?

Frequently Asked Questions - Creative Commons

@alxlg @vegetotownley @thelinuxEXP Hmmm. Then I got fed bad information in a longer discussion and have to revise. Thanks for the correction.

Tonch Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP I really love Obsidian and it would be great if it was open source, but since its data structure for saving your files is 1:1 with the OS, I don't feel nervous about losing anything to it in the future. Joplin is another open alternative to it, but last I used it I found that it saved files in a really messy way. Haven't tried Logsec.

But in this case I'm happy sticking with Obsidian.

Notion on the other hand... no offline mode or direct access to the files = absolutely not

Nachiket Vartak Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP Have to say … this video illustrates another case of the OSS 95% problem that you mentioned in one of your videos. All of the mentioned open source apps are almost…just almost but not quite, at feature parity with their proprietary counterparts.

firedragon Sep 22, 2023

@vartak @thelinuxEXP

Not true. All open open source apps are not lacking. People who say that haven't taken the time to learn open source. It depends on the app, and most of the crucial apps are equivalent.

@vartak @thelinuxEXP

Notice that #Logseq has tons of features that #RoamResearch (its proprietary counterpart) hasn't and probably will never have since the development is stuck.

Lee Calvin Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP I prefer CLI or nurses based stuff myself

Juho Mäntysalo Sep 22, 2023

As a suggestion, would you consider adding chapters to your videos? Finding the right portion is a bit of a drag, and I don't really wish to use 15 minutes checking replacements to software I don't use.

(I was mainly interested in finding an Adobe Acrobat replacement, and couldn't find it when skipping.)

Thank-you for your videos, btw. I enjoyed the gnome45 -one and was much amused by the "loop is french for magnifying glass" -joke. I've since tried to invent my own variation.

@iju My videos all have chapters, this one included ;)

Juho Mäntysalo Sep 22, 2023

For some reason they didn't show on mobile.

Mea culpa!

firedragon Sep 22, 2023

Try
https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-software/

You want Open Source recommendations?

Best Free and Open Source Linux Software - LinuxLinks

This is the largest collection of software recommendations. The collection includes hundreds of articles. Free and open source software.

LinuxLinks

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲Sep 22, 2023

So why do I need to use YouTube while you convince me to go fully open source?

@nik Because, maybe, that’s the only platform where people actually watch stuff?

Because people who use alternative platforms don’t need to be convinced, because they already know about open source?

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP I don't need a link to another platform to be convinced, but to watch the video.

It makes no sense to post a **link** to YouTube. If you invite someone to watch your videos **outside** of YouTube, simply don"t pull people into YouTube.

If the videos are on Peertube, like suggested at https://fosstodon.org/@ticktok/111110904818307034, jsut point to Peertube instead.

Again, posting links to YouTube outside YouTube has no effect other than dragging people into it who were **not** there before.

Ticktok (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] all of the Linux experiment videos are posted to peertube, an open source video platform, and always have been. https://tilvids.com/videos/watch/2832654f-fb2c-4c45-9ec0-05f6ce3287cc

Fosstodon

@nik That’s completely unsound reasoning that assumes people are too dumb to know where they want to watch and to somehow fall « victim » to something they know the evils of.

Nonsense.

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲Sep 23, 2023

Then how do I guess the link to your video on Peertube, if you refuse to post it?

Ticktok Sep 22, 2023

@nik @thelinuxEXP all of the Linux experiment videos are posted to peertube, an open source video platform, and always have been. https://tilvids.com/videos/watch/2832654f-fb2c-4c45-9ec0-05f6ce3287cc

OPEN SOURCE alternatives to the MOST POPULAR productivity apps!

PeerTube

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲Sep 22, 2023

@ticktok @thelinuxEXP In that case, people could simply be pointed there to start with, instead of letting them fight and discuss for their rights first. That would make life a lot easier for people, who, like me, avoid Google and the like.

Ticktok Sep 22, 2023

@nik @thelinuxEXP or rather than be happy that somebody is trying to do something for foss you have nitpick. Even just suggesting or asking about a foss alternative would have been an improvement over immediate accusation. Your original post has some solid "and yet you participate in society" energy.

@ticktok @nik There’s also the delicious irony of asking a YouTuber to post direct links to videos not on YouTube.

Or the weird notion that somehow the hosting platform has anything to do with the contents of the video.

Same vibes as people who ask me for an article instead: I make videos. On Youtube. Not articles. I offer my stuff on Peertube, as a courtesy for people who want that. That’s enough, IMO.

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲Sep 23, 2023

@thelinuxEXP @ticktok

If you are a "YouTuber", then yes, that's ironic.

Until now, I thought you were a person making interesting videos for others to watch. That would be honourable, and posting to YouTube additionally would be ok as a courtesy to people who are on that platform.

But if you identify as a "YouTuber", then your primary goal is monetization by invading your "fans'" privacy, and your content is only a bait to drag them in.

@nik @thelinuxEXP @ticktok

You can add "spreading myths from Reddit instead of asking to the devs":

https://mastodon.social/@alxlg/110912794178069705

You can't trust youtubers, the rate at which they have to post to stay relevant cuts the research time and this means low quality content.

@nik @ticktok @thelinuxEXP

Textbook case of FOSS-for-convenience Vs FOSS-for-principle

#stallmanwasright

P.S. after seeing the criminal behaviors allowed on YouTube that lead to real crimes like a child being killed in Italy some months ago by a group of youtubers I am convinced YouTube must be boycotted at all costs and no evengelization mission justifies using YouTube.

سیبزمینی Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP loved this

SLIMBOOK (Official)Sep 22, 2023

@thelinuxEXP Great video Nick, but let me recomend you Taiga alternative to Trello : https://taiga.io/ app of the compnay that created Penpot https://penpot.app/ alternative to Figma!
PS: spanish open source 😘

Taiga: Your opensource agile project management software

@slimbook @thelinuxEXP interesting! Looks even like a kind of Jira replacement? I'll have a look.

@slimbook Great recommendation, thanks! I’ll check it out!

@thelinuxEXP I use both obsidian (for my personal knowledge database) and logseq (for work) because I found out about logseq on the late. They are slightly different in concept, since obsidian is about structuring pages as markdown documents, and logseq is a "fractal bullet point" concept inside pages or dated journal entries. (1/)

@thelinuxEXP I have to say logseq surprised me in its capacity to work like your old paper notebook where you write on pages in chronological order, starting a section for each meeting, each thought for later, etc.; and then adds search superpowers thanks to text search and tags. I really like it for work , as it allows me to leave my notes only semi-processed, and know they'll be usable in the future. (2/2)

@thelinuxEXP I am always amazed by your love of nextcloud. I love the concept but even with the light use I make of it I run into huge bugs so often that it's a love/hate relationship for me, with a bit more weight on the hate side...

@PierricD It’s been really stable for me, but I use the snap, which means I don’t get major updates immediately after release, they wait until everything has been patched before updating :)

Pierric Sep 23, 2023

@thelinuxEXP my latest bug was on android, without any update on the server recently. All the pictures previously auto-uploaded by the app were detected as changed and I had infinite notifications asking to keep local copy or server copy. I had to clear all the app 's data and set things up again from scratch.

Pierric Sep 23, 2023

@thelinuxEXP the previous one was indeed because I happily jumped onto the wagon of v26. The pictures view stopped showing any pictures at all, the fix came 4 to 6 weeks later. I will definitely refrain from eagerly upgrading now 😀

@thelinuxEXP last random comment (I think?). This was a great video. I know and use some of the tools; some i heard about but want to check again like focalboard, and some I had never heard of and look promising, like anytype. I tried appflowy and it's super zen and pretty but I don't like the use of a local database... if it breaks all the data is lost, so they better not have bugs... and id rather have something self hosted and web-based ideally, though with syncthing it's not a huge problem.