โ€œWhy do you use Signal and all this Encryption!
Do you have anything to hide? ๐Ÿ˜กโ€œ

Yes! I do!

- The color of my underwear
- My friendsโ€™ cats photos
- My failed gym class grades
- My first attempt at "portrait"
- The outcome of my last meal
- The weird mole on my left toe
- How much I cried watching Star Trek
- How much cheese there is in my fridge
- My failed knitting experiment
- The horrible poem I just wrote
- My bank card pin number
- My social security number
- My main password
- The web search history for your birthday gift

Privacy is a Human Right! โœŠ

Not sharing publicly what you do not wish to share is your right! ๐Ÿ”’โœจ

#Privacy #Encryption #E2EE #RootForE2EE ๐ŸŽ‰

@Em0nM4stodon

๐ŸŽถ Workin' on my night cheese! ๐ŸŽถ

@Em0nM4stodon how can I possibly monetize it for my own self if I just let anyone have that information?
Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey (2018 Mix)

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@Em0nM4stodon "do you have anything to hide" aka "is there anything fishy you are doing, and that despite being close to you and a friend, i will probably snitch to the first cop i see if you tell me something slightly illegal"

@Em0nM4stodon So, businesses - why do you use VPNs and all that encryption? Do you have anything to hide?

Oh, look at that, they do. They have lots of stuff they want to hide. They want to hide their CEO's correspondence with politicians, and their meetings with lobbyists, and their sales forecasts, and their failed experiments, and so on.

So, Senator, why do you use "parliamentary privilege"? What do you have to hide?

Oh, look at that, they have stuff to hide too. They don't want their houses to be found, or their meetings with corporations to be known, or their donations, and so on.

Privacy is a human right, but funnily enough corporations and politicians don't really want their own privacy to be questioned.

@Em0nM4stodon signal is garbage matrix is better and that stores metadata in hecking plaintext iirc
@Em0nM4stodon And what can't be emphasized enough: even if you're not ~embarrassed~ or whatever at these things, they're all "false intimacy" vectors that can be used to phish, etc. by knowing context a stranger shouldn't.

@Em0nM4stodon This is very much related to the phenomenon of how folks will naively think it's fine to use telnet rather than ssh because they're not doing anything secret, completely oblivious to the fact that the most important thing the crypto is providing is integrity/authenticity of the interaction.

Knowledge private to particular contexts is what allows you to have interactions/relationships that aren't subverted by imposters.

@Em0nM4stodon โ€œi have nothing to hide, but Iโ€™m worried about YOUR motivationsโ€
@Em0nM4stodon As the adage goes... not about having anything to hide, it's about not having anything that I wanna share ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ
@Em0nM4stodon "Not sharing publicly what you do not wish to share is your right." should be a hashtag #
@Em0nM4stodon Privacy is a /basic/ right, not a human one! I'm a wolf, and I need privacy too.
@Em0nM4stodon ...That's another thing, too: queerness. It doesn't take much for the government to be hunting down "those queer people" so yeah, that's /another/ thing to hide.
@Em0nM4stodon With Signal I have to give people my phone number, though :/
@spottyfox @Em0nM4stodon Not any more - can now use a username
@dezz @Em0nM4stodon Hey, thanks for the followup! I've been using it since they started usernames.

@Em0nM4stodon

Arguing that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

-- Edward Snowden

@Em0nM4stodon
About that moleโ€ฆ what kind is it?. I hear that star nosed ones kind of tickle when they tuck in.

@Em0nM4stodon Also, it's annoying that people using the "what do you have to hide" argument seem to think the only people looking will be reasonable, fair-minded people understanding of all situational context etc.

Not people on fishing expeditions to find something, anything illegal or embarrassing to get you on because they're mad you said something mean about them/embarrassed their institution/etc.

Not literal stalkers and harassers.

Not someone who actually *is* perhaps well-meaning but who reads the wrong meaning into hyperbole or an inside joke, or who assumes you must have first-hand experience or plans because of fiction or lyrics

Not thousands of people who interpret your worst moment of being triggered and losing it at a troll or a creep as defining you, forever, beyond anything else, etc.

@Em0nM4stodon correct. And, 8712, and red.
@Em0nM4stodon
puts me in mind of the Bruce Schneier blog.
Just as true today

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/05/the_value_of_pr.html
The Value of Privacy - Schneier on Security

@Em0nM4stodon If youโ€™re hiding the amount of cheese in your fridge I can already assume the answer is โ€œnone/not enoughโ€ ;)

And strong yes to this!

@Em0nM4stodon Bruce Schneier argued in a talk "exactly because I don't have nothing to hide I don't want you to spy on me" and that's my response ever since to that question.
@Em0nM4stodon so basically the idea is why should we accept the premise that we need to prove the need for privacy instead of them having to prove why they need to invade my privacy.
@Em0nM4stodon โ€œmy opinion of your shitty social reformsโ€
@Em0nM4stodon ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Private is what we don't want to share with the whole world. Secret is what we don't want to share with anyone. Privacy is the freedom to choose what we want to share.
@Em0nM4stodon โ€œHaving something to hideโ€ โ‰  โ€œNot wanting people to snoop in when they feel like itโ€

@Em0nM4stodon

Some people in France have been charged of "terrorrist association" because they have Linux installed on their PCs, with storage encryption, and use ciphered communication means (Signal, etc).

Distopian, yes, sad, yes, but a true story.

@romu700 @Em0nM4stodon That's really creepy. One can't even be a nerd anymore ๐Ÿ˜” Like I don't even want to do shady things i just like to tinker & try things out
@Em0nM4stodon
Repeat after me "Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I have nothing to fear, Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I have nothing to fear, Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I have nothing to fear"
@bortzmeyer

@Em0nM4stodon inb4 having nothing to be guilty of and having nothing to hide aren't the same thing

if that was the case, then we would all be naked/wearing transpartent clothes in houses of glass...

@flhoofyEars @Em0nM4stodon Yeah, that's a good way to phrase it. People shouldn't be pressed to broadcast every little detail about their life, that doesn't sound very healthy. But since privacy invading technologies are usually promoted as necessary to combat crime, when someone opposes them it suggests that they are on the "crime" side, even though that's not (necessarily) the case
@Em0nM4stodon I like signal but it suffers from several issues. The biggest is the network effect. Almost everyone I know uses something else and I havenโ€™t been able to convince many to switch. Another one for me is thereโ€™s no backup on iPhone. I recently lost years of messages when I got my phone repaired specifically because there was no way to back them up.
@Em0nM4stodon

That list should also say:

*Your* bank card pin number (because clearly you don't have anything to hide)

@mirabilos
@Em0nM4stodon I didn't tell anyone about the knitting... Oh wait, Your failed knitting experiment. Never mind, carry on!
@Em0nM4stodon hey! you have this mole too?
@Em0nM4stodon When people ask me that, I usually ask them if I can see their phone or computer, or if they can login to their bank account for me. When they say no, or when they pull their phone away when you go to the home screen and start launching apps, I ask them I thought they had nothing to hide. Some get it. Eventually. Others, sadly, don't get it. But I got a few people to suddenly "get it" that way.

@Em0nM4stodon I am all for end to end encryption and privacy as a fundamental right which should be provided by default.

Unfortunately, in the USA, under CALEA and the PATRIOT Act, anything which has a phone number is legislatively subject to warrantless wiretapping, Signal is no exception. I can cite at least one court transcript with Signal logs provided as evidence.

In other words: Signal is not providing you the privacy they are telling you they provide. I am not the only individual to call them out on their BS either.

@Em0nM4stodon

It's like "why do you send mail in opaque envelopes rather than as postcards: do you have something to hide?"
@Em0nM4stodon Wife: "Hey what was the password to X account again?"
Me: "Pull Signal up, I'll message it when I get to my phone."

@Em0nM4stodon Things are turning back to Pre-WWII and WWII ...
We all forgot one thing at someone eyes, we might not be perfect, sharing privacy or neglect privacy will lead to what happen in the past... witch hunt , character assassination , etc etc.
Unfortunalty we do not learn with our errors, we tend to recycle the bad things also from the past ...

Envy is a dangerous weapon ...

@Em0nM4stodon - Still having nothing to hide doesn't justify corporations exploiting people's data for profit.
@Em0nM4stodon the last time someone tried this line of questioning on me I asked if they'd be willing to give me a copy of their browsing history. They got it pretty quickly after that.
@Em0nM4stodon My phone number for sure. So Telegram, Snapchat and Discord for me.
Signal and WhatsApp REALLY need to implement usernames...

@Em0nM4stodon Very well said. Privacy is indeed a human right.

"Do you have anything to hide?" is a question I have never understood. Of course people are gonna have stuff to hide, specifically private and personal information that they want to keep private, to avoid being hacked or doxxed.

@Em0nM4stodon

A classic "none of your damn business" situation

@Em0nM4stodon "the outcome of my last meal"? What does that mean? What *was* the outcome??
...oh no. You said you wanted to hide that.
@Em0nM4stodon ah! So you've got nothing to hide? Cool! So there's no issue in telling me your salary, your bank account access details and your email-password then.... Thank you!
@Em0nM4stodon
*that I voted against the last sherrif.
@Em0nM4stodon It's weird how we have all sorts of privacy laws and people are usually very strict that nobody violates their privacy in any way, as in "real world", but then we go to internet, phone apps and so on.. ๐Ÿค”
@Em0nM4stodon this! This should be the answer to all those simple minded folks who don't understand that privacy is a human right.
@Em0nM4stodon my stock response to "do you have anything to hide?" is "Once as a child I sent a drawing I did of some trees to my grandmother by post. I put it in an envelope not on the back of a postcard."

@Em0nM4stodon

The more i read it and I think ...

NOBODY should have a "main password" - BAD IDEA