Having donated even once to a Democratic candidate or progressive cause, you are punished with a lifetime of incessant spam.

My response: I've crafted email filters that block mail from companies that candidates and causes hire to do their email campaigns.

This means I probably block some worthy things I might actually want to see.

So everyone loses, because political spammers don't value the online community.

@dangillmor
Same here. I donated to Biden Harris and to the GA governor campaign and OMG... All that spam!
@dangillmor Somehow my email address got on a bunch of Democrat campaign lists. That email is basically unusable now (mostly because of broken unsubscribe links or being resold over and over again). Making it just a tad worse, I'm Canadian so can't even donate lol
@dangillmor long, long ago, I realized the potential for this, and first started with +whatever on the user part of my address, then just started making unique addresses (aliases) for everything. I just remove the heavily-spammed ones.
@dangillmor I use a separate email address for dealing with political campaigns, almost works.

@dangillmor

Not just email but text messages. Fortunately that, too, can be blocked.

@steve @dangillmor As soon as I see the stop2quit footer I don’t even read it and just reply stop. If it’s missing one I flag it as spam for the carrier.
@steve Those seem easier to deal with -- just block them (and there aren't nearly as many).
@dangillmor Yep. Same goes for making charitable contributions to non-profits and causes. The mail keeps coming and coming. My mom, who passed away 6 years ago, still gets solicitations even today in the mail!
@dangillmor Don’t blame the political spammers so much as the campaigns eager to find secondary and tertiary ways to make a buck off your support.

@dangillmor Did you say Act Blue?

Argh!!!!

@dangillmor It honestly makes me donate less. Especially the SMS messages.

@dangillmor Yeah, I get a lot of that junk - and it is junk. It is not quite as hyperbolic as the right-wing spam, but it also devoid of any message other than "send money".

There's no educational content to inform voters and the emails do not suggest courses of action (other than sending a credit card number).

Basically if the D's are paying for that junk they are throwing their money away (and at the same time causing potential voters to get numb and to erect spam filters.)

@dangillmor And NEVER give them your phone number or they'll bombard you with texts. It's noxious.
@dangillmor Your post makes it sound like a Democrat problem, though. Surely Republicans are the same or worse? (Not that I'm going to try and find out.)
@jaymcgavren @dangillmor They're both awful. I once donated to a democratic campaign at the urging of Pod Save America and the level of spam and "The sky is falling and if you don't donate more right now everyone will die and Nancy Pelosi will personally be disappointed in you" rhetoric was just as bad as the spam I've gotten from Republican candidates.
@jaymcgavren I get some of my (R-registered) neighbors’ snail mail and it is just as bad.
@dangillmor One of the environmental activists I used to study with in college would donate and misspell his name so that he could tell who the companies he donated to sold their lists to. He had different misspellings of his name on each donation
@dangillmor
The SMS spam is also prolific and impossible to block by users. I worked on a presidential campaign and this crap has driven me to stop opening any ask I get.

@dangillmor @glennf I ran away from my previous phone number for largely that reason.

In the last election cycle the spam SMS messages were approaching hourly.

Please, progressive causes, make it SUSTAINABLY viable to support you.

@dangillmor I’m writing an email service that fixes this exact problem. I’m opening to the public in about two weeks. https://port87.com
Port87

A new kind of email.

@dangillmor This
I get both democrat and republican spam from out of state candidates, despite not having donated to republicans and demanded to be removed from the lists multiple times.

@dangillmor I signed up for Trump’s fundraising emails so I could keep an eye on the sleazy bastard. I used to think, “omg, his followers are complete idiots if they believe this bullshit in these emails”

Then I donated to MJ Hegar’s campaign and soon after started receiving an onslaught of those same emails laden with similar bullshit.

They really think we’re fools.

@dangillmor I want a list of charities that NEVER CONTACT YOU. I gave $25 to an org 5 years ago and I had to call them to beg them to stop sending stuff
@dangillmor Living this. I don’t need political spam in my life. let me donate without subsequently nagging me to death for more, more more. They now get less, less less for all the abuse.
@dangillmor and the texts. Oh god the endless texting asking for money.

@dangillmor this happens all the time, no matter who you donate to.

i hate it.

@dangillmor it’s the text messages that more obnoxious though - how do you block them?
@Shantis @dangillmor Sign up for a Google Voice number and give that out instead of your actual mobile number. Alternatively, Firefox Relay has phone number masking, but I think that service costs $7/month.
@dangillmor @eilonwy So many of these ‘worthy causes’ then turn into spamfests I am afraid, puts me off ever getting involved
@dangillmor the very sad part of it is that for Dems it means we stop emails/texts and contributing and for cult members it means they donate everything they have even if they can’t post their bills
@dangillmor I was a director of Public Interest Communications in Utah. We caused so much of this and I know the owners were complicit in breaking laws like not removing people from DNC lists, calling cell phones, etc. PIC fundraised for DCCC, WWF, Greenpeace and so many more. They rarely listened to donors. It was an awful 5 years of my life even if I'm a forever left-leaning liberal.
@dangillmor Same. ActBlue and NGPVAN took the Trump grifting model and went apeshit with it, and the Democratic Party is much the worse for it.
@dangillmor So true. It’s self-defeating.

@dangillmor thankfully, my email provider allows the creation of ad-hoc email addresses that I use for stuff like this.

E.g. a Gmail account you can add "+anything" to the end of your email and it still arrives in your inbox.

So if I made a donation to CharityA I'd sign up with [email protected]

Then I can triage/filter/ based on the To address.

Also let's you see which organisation has been passing your details around.

@dangillmor All of this. And somehow my phone number became appended to others’ voter records. I get texts addressed to so many names that aren’t me.
@dangillmor same. I’ve actually stopped donating to Democratic candidates because I can’t get the spam under control. I’ve tried to communicate this to them, but to no avail. And it sucks because I want to donate, but my email already mostly useless specifically because of actblue and friends.
@dangillmor you give them your real email? Rookie move.
@dangillmor Same. I figured out what headers indicate bulk mailers and block them wholesale.
@dangillmor Heaven help the mailbox thieves. Doing us a service.
@dangillmor @gulovsen Having made a small donation once to the Quakers (worthwhile org) I get USPS mail constantly for years. How does this pencil out?
@dangillmor this is another reason why we need federal campaigns to be publicly funded. The constant need to fundraise and dial for dollars and spam for dollars and text for dollars and do inane face to face events makes enemies out of elected officials for doing what the campaigning part of our system demands of them.

@amaditalks @dangillmor

Yes. I'm Austrian and I never get this kind of e-mails. I guess it's because of federal funding of parties, but also GDPR.

@Mab_813 I don’t think the GDPR would apply because we get these emails because we have an existing financial relationship with the underlying entity that is sending them.

@amaditalks

In my experience, companies and political parties ask me for my consent before they send me newsletters or unsolicited e-mails, even if I'm already a customer. I assumed the reason for this is GDPR - but maybe it's cultural and GDPR has changed the culture and how people think about using data like mail adresses.
Also with companies / parties / candidates not allowed to sell or pass on my mail adress, it ends up with less people in general.

@dangillmor > Having donated even once to a Democratic candidate or progressive cause, you are punished with a lifetime of incessant spam.

I suspect that it happens because it works. People who have donated once are more likely to donate again. Or maybe it is just so cheap to spam that the spammers don't care. I can't quite decide. I wonder if anyone has conducted a real study on the effectiveness of political spam fundraising.

@dangillmor I also stopped donating to democratic candidates because of the spam. They have no shame.