William Aubrey Beggs
Pete Prodoehl ๐People who are like "The migration to Mastodon has failed!"
No it hasn't. I literally migrated to Mastodon from Twitter, and I don't use Twitter anymore, but I do use Mastodon every day.
I call that a successful migration.
requiem ๐ฆซ@rasterweb Lots of people consider anything a failure if it doesn't work for everyone.
I'm not down with that (or any) totalitarianism.
jprestonian@rasterweb
My experience, as well.
My experience, as well.
morph@rasterweb What should have failed? Was there a plan I missed?
@morph Those "pundits" or "journalists" who post about how Mastodon is not successful because *everyone* who uses Twitter hasn't moved over yet. Yeah, silly take, don't care. Again, I am more concerned with the right people, good people, people who care, being here.
@rasterweb Yes, I don't care as well. It's more to find here than I ever can keep up with. That's somehow a pity.
Phil Rees@rasterweb @morph They only have that impression because the bots they bought didn't leave.
Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)@rasterweb I consider it successful also. I am quite happy with the diversity and breadth of my follows here and the conversations. I've learned a bunch from other folks interesting posts and replies.
@stepheneb My biggest pain is missing some of people I knew on Twitter, many of them local to me. But alas, I shall not return to the forbidden land as it has been poisoned.
AskPippa๐จ๐ฆ@rasterweb @stepheneb I miss some experts and friends on Twitter. But as far the experts go, I've found equally great people here. And I feel like I've made new friends, even though we haven't met in person.
Felis Cat@stepheneb it's successful in that there's enough content and conversation about subjects that I'm interested in to serve as a social media platform. I don't have Twitter to compare it to, though
12foxfire@rasterweb
Iโm happy here. ๐
Iโm happy here. ๐
Nixie@sepfeiffer @rasterweb I run two servers because _reasons_ ๐
Tuncay@rasterweb me too. BTW the same for Reddit migrating to Kbin (a Lemmy like alternative). People say the same, that the Reddit protest was a fail (it was to a degree, yes). But not for me.
Deleting my Twitter account was easy, as I didn't like it and didn't use it anyway. But logging out (not even deleting) my Reddit account hurts. I have 200k Karma. This should tell you how much I cared and was invested into. Yet, I stopped. I also count Mastodon and Kbin/Lemmy a success (to a degree!).
@thingsiplay Even though I had a reddit account for, gosh, maybe 17 years (!?) I really only started using it frequently about two years ago. Well, I stopped using it completely this month and I'm all-in on the "Threadiverse" of kbin, etc.
Pat H.@rasterweb @thingsiplay same, except I've been frequenting Lemmy. Which is actually what got me to explore the fediverse more and landed me here.
edgeoforever ๐
Blippy the Wonder Slug (MOVED)
Chaos Agent Spectre@rasterweb I think people assume any migration for social media are only a success if they move at the speed of the MySpace yo FB migration, which took like a month or so, or as fast as the tumblr exodus, which was more of a nuking of the user base and then a ton of people leaving, still about a month long.
Myspace and tumblr both had smaller, less entrenched user bases. Ive personally made like 3 accounts on tumblr over my lifetime because there isnt a need to tie yourself to it, and MySpace was just the social hangout everyone adopted until Facebook fit the ticket better. MySpace didn't have strong competition like fb does now with twitter, instagram (even if meta owns them both), or even reddit.
Twitter and reddit are entrenched in a different way though, a lot of people have made unique connections on twitter or follow news and communities on reddit, and its really the community aspect that make those spaces harder to leave. So the migration won't take a month like the others, it will continue to happen over time, and as we foster a better space for people over here on mastodon, the migration will continue to go. Unlike twitter and bluesky, which relies on capitalism to thrive, mastodon thrives on community support, so we have an advantage in longevity here that those platforms will basically never have.
@ChaosSpectre Well said! As long as things on the fediverse have enough (good) users to make it interesting, fun, and sustainable, I think I'm fine with that.
World domination has never really appealed to me.
Katy โจ@rasterweb i have more fun and have met more people on mastodon in 6 months then i did in like 5 years on twitter โ
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EricWagner@rasterweb yes, I am barely on twitter these days, though I may go back to call myself cis male and get banned.
Catherine is not complacent@rasterweb well the folks who live for likes and obsessively check their follower numbers probably consider it a failure because they couldnโt drag their *cough* adoring public along with them.
Charlotte Walker
Fubaroque@rasterweb Well obviously people who say that are still on Twitterโฆ #howelse ๐ฅด
So whose problem is it that their migration failedโฆ not ours (here on Mastodon).
Iโd say they may solve their problem anyway they like. Hardly anybody here cares how. ๐ฅณ
Jeff Shaffer CBET, ret@fubaroque @rasterweb Having never had an account on Twitter, I cannot speak to the hot mess it is reported to have turned into, but I joined Mastodon during the time of Muskโs purchase because of the press that surrounded that migration. There is too much for me to take in here, but I usually bite off a few hours a day scrolling and going down various rabbit holes that pique my curiosity. People calling it a failure surprises me, Iโve tried a few social networks since getting online with my first PC, from bulletin boards and Prodigy to FB but none of those models worked for me. This is the only one Iโve been willing to contribute money to monthly.
DrWhoZee@rasterweb @fuzzyduck same here
Kyle Davis@rasterweb Mastodon has worked 10x better for me than Twitter, which often felt like shouting into silence, even after a decade. Iโd call that a success.
Felix@linux_mclinuxface you mean you donโt like to be totally invalidated because you donโt have enough followers? Color me shocked
ricardo 
Luna Macrosystemsโก๏ธ๐ค๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ@linux_mclinuxface @rasterweb very much this! Posting here results in conversations. That stopped being true on twitter in like 2012 for me. Fediverse feels like early days of twitter, but biased towards people who believe in the platform and have a general overlap in ideas or interests
liroso
ยง Jason ๐ฅSame. It takes a while to build a platform organically.
No matter how you look at it, Mastodon has grown significantly in the last 9 months as Twitter has shrunk.
@jcct it's also not necessary for a platform to continue to grow for it to be a success
Agreed. Especially if the the platform is not being monetized.
Noted Tea Enthusiast@rasterweb
If "failure" is because nobody currently monetizing content on the bird site is monetizing it here, well good.
If "failure" is because nobody currently monetizing content on the bird site is monetizing it here, well good.
โก @rasterweb anecdotal! means nothing! I only care about peer reviewed publications (eg tech reporters' articles)
J4YC33 โ@rasterweb Honestly, I don't think I ever used Twitter daily. I *do* use Mastodon daily.
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szczur@rasterweb I never had Twitter, jumped onto the Mastodon ship when I had a chance and didn't regret it. But then I tried Twitter and holy balls it's such a toxic place to be it makes me question the very popularity of that site.
But then, it's all about strong (and negative) emotions, so perhaps that's where it's success lies. People are just either assholes, or masochistic. Sometimes both.
staticIt's a slow burn, Mastodon keeps growing, twitter keeps getting smaller.
J Caz โก@rasterweb I only just joined yesterday. Still extremely early days. Looking forward to seeing this place grow๐
smaroukis@C1der welcome aboard!
@that_marouk_ish cheers so much ๐
WhatwasIsaying@rasterweb I joined last night with zero issues.
Laux Myth (aka Martin)@rasterweb
If it leaves behind intolerant rude jerks by the millions and bots by the billions on #birdsite, I think it very successful.
If it leaves behind intolerant rude jerks by the millions and bots by the billions on #birdsite, I think it very successful.
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autumnagain@rasterweb I never used twitter so i would say it us successful
Phillyinflorida@rasterweb right there with you!
finn 
@rasterweb Absolutely agree! The fediverse is thriving, led by Mastodon. We're also witnessing an explosion with platforms like Kbin and Lemmy. It's about putting power back into users' hands instead of big tech.
This isn't just about successful migration. It's about evolution. Decentralization is this evolution's core. The internet was meant to be decentralized, a network for everyone. Let's reclaim that vision.
Down with media monopoly, return the fifth estate to the people!
Mastodon Migration@finn @rasterweb Preach brothers finn and Pete!
W6KME@finn @rasterweb It's about getting back on the track we were on with usenet all those years ago, when we allowed ourselves to be distracted by shiny objects and migrated over time to centrally controlled sites.
There has always been a part of the population who doesn't *want* to be creative, and wants their experiences handed to them, and who values conformity over all. They are going to struggle with the Fediverse, but it's a healthy struggle.
jello ใ@finn @rasterweb The ones who seem to proclaim the loudest that the Mastodon migration has failed are those who check in every three to four weeks with a โMastodon, huh?โ post, but nothing beyond that. Baffling.
WTL@rasterweb @chuck Same here.
Isaac@rasterweb In my experience, mass migrations usually have some amount of reversal some time later. A few weeks after the mass exodus from WhatsApp, lots of people came back.
But I think it's important to focus on the people that stayed, and why they stayed. Sure, people float back and forth, but the people who stayed aren't going back.
jrm4@rasterweb It hasn't failed, but it hasn't succeeded.
As I've said elsewhere -- I do believe Mastodon achieving something like *world domination* is actually very important; more important than a few of you finding a happy place (which is fine, but doesn't require Mastodon)
The *purpose* of the protocol is to be huge; and if there's always going to be a huge thing, it should be on THIS model, not owned.