🔥 We are excited to let everyone know that our full website is now live!

We hope this will be an easy way for new users to get started with #Mastodon & join the wider #Fediverse & an organizing hub to build & spread a better, more open social web of ALL fediverse offerings.

With the #RedditMigration in full force & the likely #Barcelona launch bringing new attention to the Fediverse it is all the more urgent to help #TakeBackSocial

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Spread Mastodon

Welcome to your better social home.

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As we did before for this site, we are “building in public” & in stages.

So while our tool for sign-ups now points to mastodon.social for NOW we propose this round-robin plan. Give us feedback.

We think this model will work for any Mastodon/Fedi onboarding for apps and portals.

Principles of it could be adapted for places like #calkey, #kbin, #peertube, #joinfediverse & others...to balance the ease of sign-ups to decentralization.

http://spreadmastodon.org/utilities/round-robin

@spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport

I’m not a huge fan of the “make the big sites bigger” approach, even with the round Robin. I understand that lowers the barrier to entry for newbies, but I also think that raising awareness about specialized or regional instances is an important part of Federation.

@brian @[email protected] @fediversereport

👍 Very up for suggestions as to how the round robin proposal could include X number of mid-range servers that meed the other requirements.

And we are opening up the full source here and would welcome multi-language versions of this site and all the tools, including the onboarding tool.

@spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport

I respect the compromise that the official app has made for its sign-ups. There is a default “click here to sign up for a big one” button, which could be your round robin choice. But then a “Find another server” option with sorting by different criteria and categories.

Bonus points: even better than the Mastodon app’s flow would be some explanation about why someone might want to consider going one way or the other.

@brian @[email protected] @fediversereport

Yes it could.

The goal of this site is to incite ideas like that for every onboarding solution for the Fediverse.

@spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport Over 60k registered users? What the hell's the point? We comply with every single piece of criteria except we'll never be at 60k users, ever, but we serve our geographical area very well. Why don't you run the user through a wizard and then generate a list of instances that have opted in with detailed descriptions? You could make one of the questions user count. This approach does nothing.

@mike @[email protected] @fediversereport

Hi @mike - would definitely be up for Canadian.social to be in a future round robin.

The initial set of 60K registered users was just a stab objective metrics for high capacity servers. Very up for suggestions to move that down to numbers that would hit solid but mid-level serves as well.

And welcome exactly this feedback.

@spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport Sorry got my back up as I don't think a lot of really good instances would ever hit those numbers. I apreciate the transparency and the effort.

I agree with @mike and @CrazyMyra that the 60K limit's problmeatic and with @brian about the problems of the "make the big sites bigger" approach. What's really needed is a series of questions that matches people to an instance where they're likely to have a good initial experience -- good moderation as a minimum bar, and beyond that based on geography, interests, or diversity. Sending everybody to .social is likely to be counter-productive.

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@jdp23 @mike @brian @[email protected] @fediversereport

Taking notes on all this, thanks! Definitely will update the MAU and registered users numbers, but want to think more about what still ensures high capacity in an objective way. Up for suggestions to those numbers.

@spreadmastodon @jdp23 @mike @[email protected] @fediversereport

“what still ensures high capacity in an objective way. Up for suggestions to those numbers.”

I’m probably just dense, but I’m not grocking why there needs to be an arbitrary number of users to define high capacity. There are sites that report metrics on the uptime of instances, which seems to be a better measure than number of users.

@spreadmastodon @jdp23 @mike @[email protected] @fediversereport

Saying it another way: I think the ultimate goal is to get a new user attached to the right instance. If they don’t know or care, then fine, go to .social. But if they have specific niche interests, then helping to guide them towards options is in support of “getting them attached to the right instance.”

tl;dr - best fit > server size

@brian @spreadmastodon @jdp23 @mike @[email protected] @fediversereport I think one of the most confusing issue for new users is the limited visibility of posts/accounts that aren't already "known" to their server.
Automatically changing the server plus login prompt when trying to follow/look up someone, limited results when searching for hashtags or trends.
With a large server this happens al lot less while trying to build an initial list of accounts to follow.

@spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport A few suggestions:

Sports should be follow category. There is a super active sports community on Mastodon.

Hockey is missing from your sports hashtag topics. This is an unforgivable sin. #HNOM

I picked some follow categories went to the next step and automatically followed a a bunch of people. Maybe an intermediary step asking if you want to follow these people?

Great first steps!

@mike @[email protected] @fediversereport

Which top accounts would you recommend for sports? Our goal here was:

1. not bots or no Twitter cross-posting accounts with no human involved

2. Actively and regularly posting on topic

@spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport I'm primarily focused on hockey, look at the #HNOM hashtag and you should find a lot of users there. Also @TheHockeyWriters is a non bot account.
@spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport 1) These are the NHL hashtags used on Masto:
Anaheim: #FlyTogether
Arizona: #RunWithThePack
Boston: #NHLBruins
Buffalo: #LetsGoBuffalo
Calgary: #Flames
Carolina: #LetsGoCanes
Chi: #Blackhawks
CO: #GoAvsGo
Columbus: #CBJ
Dallas: #TexasHockey
Detroit: #LGRW
Edmonton: #Oilers
Florida: #TimeToHunt #FlaPanthers
Los Angeles: #GKG
Minnesota: #MNWild
Montreal: #GoHabsGo
Nashville: #Smashville
New Jersey: #NJDevils
@spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport 2)
New York Islanders: #Isles
New York Rangers: #NoQuitInNY
Ottawa: #GoSensGo
Philadelphia: #FueledByPhilly
Pittsburgh: #LetsGoPens
San Jose: #SharksTerritory
Seattle: #SeaKraken
St. Louis: #STLBlues
Tampa Bay: #GoBolts
Toronto: #LeafsForever
Vancouver: #Canucks
Vegas: #VGK #VegasBorn
Washington: #ALLCAPS
Winnipeg: #NHLJets
@mike @spreadmastodon @[email protected] @fediversereport
Fully behind Mike's point here. Our instance isn't regional, but it's one of the few mainly dedicated to the sort of content you used to find on "Funny Twitter" (ie jokes, memes, shitposting, etc). With just a couple of hundred members, we're never going to be a "recommended" instance on size. And, because few of us use hashtags - there's no better way to indicate you're not funny than putting #/funny on every post - it's difficult to find us.
Initiatives like this are accidentally designed to exclude a lot.

@OutOnTheMoors @mike @[email protected] @fediversereport

Very up for ideas on how to add new metrics to allow mid-sized but high capacity servers to the round robin for sure!

@spreadmastodon @OutOnTheMoors @[email protected] @fediversereport Maybe MAU to registered user ratio on servers over 100 registered users? I think it really comes down to the wizard for onboarding. Questions designed to drill down on region, hobbies, interests, then present options that represent the input. Some people want a small well defined community, others want to get lost in a crowd. Also moderation style has a big part to play.