Did anyone order a UNIX pizza?

@ActionRetro yes...

I want one "MAX IMPACT" please...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDxLa6P6exc

SGI Indigo2: An $86,000 Workstation from 1995

Diving into the Silicon Graphics Indigo² desktop workstation computer! This was a beast in 1995, and yes, "it's a UNIX system, I know this!" How do the pros ...

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@ActionRetro this reminds me of the scalable Workstation Design I wanted to get off the ground...

Kinda like the #Onyx but woth modern bus systems...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo3lUw9GUJA

SGI's $250,000 Graphics Supercomputer from 1993 - Silicon Graphics Onyx RealityEngine²

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@kkarhan i want to play with one of these so badly

@ActionRetro sadly #Dodoid went dark for quite some time.

I wounder if David "#8BitGuy" Murray still has some #Sun slabs lying around...

@ActionRetro but be aware that the #RabbitHole for old #Unix is very, very deep.

*points at @ncommander doing #Solaris 7*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJFxwBfFkyM

Exploring Sun Solaris 7 for SPARC

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@kkarhan @ActionRetro @ncommander wait what ncommander has fedi
@kkarhan @ActionRetro @ncommander there are three streams I have watched on YouTube, and two of them were the LFS ones

@sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro yeah...

Some people may call this "Cyber-Masochism" in terms of tech but his videos crucially showcase the achilles heels of #unix-alike systems:

- archiving the toolchain and dependencies
- documentation, or lack thereof
- how the #GlibC is an unfixable POS that should not exist since minor updates brick an entire userland and this is absolutely unacceptable for anyone who wants a stable #Linux system!
- how online-dependent distros are.

@kkarhan @sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro

i feel like i'm stepping onto landmines here but, ya know, what's your solution? certainly not windows. in terms of glibc update type issues, isn't this the difference between upstream and downstream solutions? pick what is right for you.

@greymatter @sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro I think that #ChimeraLinux is showing the way by yeeting all the #GNU & #FSF shit out of the system.

The fact that #Win32 is the most stable #API & #ABI on #Linux is a shame and testiment to the lack of fucks given by #glibc and other projects.

#Busybox, #Toybox, #uClinux and #Musl are working solutions espechally in #embedded setups where #GNUtils are seen as unstable #bloat.

@kkarhan @sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro

the problem, imo, with a non-gnu distro like chimera -- which i, admittedly, have zero experience with -- is that that isn't very friendly.

on all of the non-linux boxes i support, my developers prefer the GNU binaries over, for example, the proprietary options (i'm talking to you, Apple (and others)). then it's even more relevant to our customers because, hey, their environment certainly isn't non-GNU.

disclaimer: i am a systems/security admin and not a developer.

@greymatter @sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro yeah, it's kinda circular depency stack, since I'd love to use #fish but since #bash is basically the de-favto standard and "installing anotuer shell" is just below "install a compiler in production" in terms of "security don'ts" it's sadly put in a nieche only slightly less discomfortable than anti-#SystemD distros like #Devuan...
@kkarhan @greymatter @ncommander @ActionRetro i use fish and the world around me uses bash and I will never understand why
@sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro @greymatter I only use #bash because I'm kinda forced to do so at #WageWork...
@sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro @greymatter ...otherwise I would've mirated to #fish ages ago...
@kkarhan @ncommander @ActionRetro @greymatter ln -sf /usr/bin/fish /bin/bash /j
@sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro @greymatter problem is that I'mneither the only user on said systems nor thatit would be permissible to setup another shell at all.
@sataa @ncommander @ActionRetro @greymatter also #fish isn't compatible with #bash and eve if it was the correct symbolic link would be /usr/bin/env bash / fish!
@kkarhan @ncommander @ActionRetro @greymatter worked for me. as for incompatibility? cope /silly