GNOME users, I have some questions for you! This won’t single-handedly drive the design of GNOME (I’m not that influential… yet 😉 ), but anecdata is always nice to help unstick design discussions or just gather insights.
(Polls will follow posts as I can’t share an image and a poll, sadly.)
If you use GNOME, do you use the “Recent” view in the Files app? Note this is NOT the same as the file chooser, e.g. when opening a file in an app.
(Answer in the following poll.)
If you use GNOME, do you use the “Recent” view in the Files app? Note this is NOT the same as the file chooser, e.g. when opening a file in an app.
(See previous post for a screenshot, reply for context.)
If you use GNOME, do you use the “Recent” view in the file chooser, e.g. when opening a file in an app? Note this is NOT the same as when browsing in the Files app.
(Answer in the following poll.)
If you use GNOME, do you use the “Recent” view in the file chooser, e.g. when opening a file in an app? Note this is NOT the same as when browsing in the Files app.
(See previous post for a screenshot, reply for context.)
If you use GNOME, do you use the “Starred” view in the Files app?
(Answer in the following poll.)
If you use GNOME, do you use the “Starred” view in the Files app?
(See previous post for a screenshot, reply for context.)
If you use GNOME, do you use the “Large Text” option in Settings → Accessibility → Seeing?
Alternatively, do you set a different font scaling factor somewhere else, e.g. in Tweaks?
(Answer in the following poll.)
If you use GNOME, do you use the “Large Text” option in Settings → Accessibility → Seeing?
Alternatively, do you set a different font scaling factor somewhere else, e.g. in Tweaks?
(See previous post for screenshots, reply for context.)
If you use GNOME, do you use “Focus on Hover” or “focus follows mouse” behavior in GNOME?
(Answer in the following poll.)
If you use GNOME, do you use “Focus on Hover” (also known as “focus follows mouse”) behavior in GNOME?
(See previous post for a screenshot, reply for context.)
If you use GNOME, do you use startup/auto-starting apps, e.g. apps that launch when you log in?
(Feel free to reply for context/nuance!)
If you use GNOME, do you use Tweaks for one of these settings, and/or something else?
• Text size/font scaling
• Window focus behavior
• Startup/auto-starting apps
(Sorry this is worded kind of awkwardly… Feel free to reply for context/nuance!)
I imagine a common one a lot of users do is adding back minimise and maximise/restore buttons
Also disabling the "attach modal" setting
@cassidy The biggest reason i use tweaks as others have mentioned is to enable the extra window buttons "Minimise and Maximise". However i also use it to change the GTK3 Theme to Adwaita dark (personally i don't know why this isn't changed when going from light to dark in the appearance settings).
Love seeing the ongoing discussions from the Gnome team! Thank you!
@tsoulard @cassidy that's an interesting one - the new "dark mode" switch in settings requires application opt-in.
That's because changing the gtk3 theme out from under applications will make them unusable if they happened to have hardcoded colours in app-specific styles which assumed the default/light theme.
@nahuel That's fair but my understanding that with the default GTK3 themes is they shouldn't cause any issues with theming. As it is "just" a dark theme.
Although i suppose it could cause other issues with app styling i think for me right now my concern is dark mode isn't really "dark mode" in the same way it could be with just a switch to the default GTK3 theme but I'm not aware of the entire picture!
@tsoulard Sure, but then you have programs like MySQL Workbench that make use of GTK 3's foreign drawing to draw parts of their interface "respecting" the user's GTK theme.
After applying any dark theme, you end up with half app in light theme, and half app in dark theme, and even with dark on dark cases
If I only use it for setting auto starting applications
@cassidy No, but:
I would use it to launch my chat apps in the background but only to get notifications (I don't now b/c I don't have tweaks installed). I would also launch things like Syncthing but as far as I can tell it auto-launches itself somehow anyway
I would use it to launch my foreground apps if GNOME supported that natively (not via tweaks) and could place the windows on given workspaces. For instance, I usually have a browser on workspace 1, a terminal on 2, and Spotify on 3
@cassidy yes, but I didn't configure it. I have Nextcloud launching in the background by default.
I also use GSConnect, and you could argue that it is an "application" launched in the background.
@mgedmin ah, good differentiation! That changes the same setting under the hood, just from either the menu or the Settings app. Hm.
If GNOME supported more display scaling options out of the box, would you use that, instead? E.g. being able to set 150% in Settings → Displays → Scale.
@cassidy I've set a larger font scaling using Tweaks on my laptop, I've found the default UI scaling too small on the FHD laptop screen, and the other scaling options didn't work well.
Fractional scaling works only on Wayland but the XWayland apps become very blurry. I've tried other scaling options as well and they also appear to be blurry.
@matt I mean, yes, we could say, “all apps should behave properly with any arbitrary text size,” but that’s… impossible. :)
Right now we support Large Text (1.25× size) and we say apps should be tested w/that, but it’s more a fundamental issue: we’d have to rewrite the stylesheet, every app, and probably GTK itself to use text size for scaling. Which… yeah, that’s a lot.
And even then, it’s not obvious how that would actually be better than just supporting overall fractional scaling.
I actually default to smaller text in settings, but I regularly and situationally scale text up based on website, app, light levels, etc. So B and C, I guess?
The bottom line is, font size is a base-level accessibility issue for me, and I'm just possessed of bog-standard aging vision. For my partner, it's a much more significant issue.
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