BenRiceMItʼs time the EU stepped in and started regulating Appleʼs use of apostrophes
Robb Knight@BenRiceM I'm so confused? It should have an apostrophe on those.
@robb sorry, not a grammar issue, a typographic one.
Apostrophes (and quotation marks) should be angled, not straight.
If the symbol just goes straight it’s just for referring to feet or inches.
(The rule is okay to ignore in general, as long as you’re consistent)
here’s a much better explanation: https://practicaltypography.com/straight-and-curly-quotes.html
superevr 
@BenRiceM disabling “smart” quotes in TextEdit and everywhere else is one of the first things I do when setting up any new Mac.
@BenRiceM OHHHHHHH
yep.
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Uli Kusterer (Not a kitteh)@below @BenRiceM @robb I got in at the very tail end of those … found the last stock my local arts and crafts store had back in 2005 😅 http://zathras.de/angelweb/x2005-02-18.htm
Ricky Mondello@BenRiceM Approximately 1/5 of my time at Apple is asking people to use typographic quotes and apostrophes.
@rmondello this seems like such a solved problem
Shantini@rmondello @BenRiceM ok I am a grammar nerd and I have no idea what any of this is about.
@shantini @rmondello curly/angled good, straight bad, mostly https://practicaltypography.com/straight-and-curly-quotes.html
andrew van dam@shantini @rmondello @BenRiceM
smart quotes!
Saagar Jha
kira :3@rmondello “fancy”
John Bishop@rmondello @BenRiceM can confirm the same
@jbish @rmondello keep fighting the good fight
Anton 🌻@BenRiceM please don’t look into double quotes in code sample on slides. leave some bounties for others 🙏
hagen@BenRiceM hey at least they aren’t using accent marks.
Dominic Hopton@BenRiceM do you experience the ‘my bookmarks changed order for no good reason and now I can’t find where I am in my list’ bug?
Ryan Lintott@BenRiceM if they don’t see it, I guess it doesn't bother them...
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Kellygiz@BenRiceM What's wrong with that? I’m sure it's correct, I don’t know what you're looking at.
galtenberg@BenRiceM Now imagine you’re German, and you get confused between normal German quotes „“, German print quotes »«, Swiss-German quotes «» and English quotes “” (note the closing quote in English is like a 99, while the closing quote in German is like 66 in Serif fonts).
I *always* have to look up which is which.
@uliwitness Gutenberg has a lot to answer for
Alex Akers@uliwitness @BenRiceM Didn’t realize German print and Swiss-German had different directional quotes. I knew about „“ though
@a2 @BenRiceM Yeah, they “inherited” the Guillemets from the French part of the country. It's even more confusing because Switzerland gets flooded with content from Germany, so many Swiss people aren’t even aware why they have 3 different kinds of quotes (because most non-typographers use the German „“ quotes in printed letters and on web sites), and mostly only books and magazines use the reverse guillemets »«, and only a minority of content (the stuff made in/for Switzerland) uses theirs «».
Vi@BenRiceM this deserves a CW fwiw
@avimanyuroy I strongly suggest you don’t look at my own replies
@BenRiceM thats just telling me to go and look at them! 
João Silva 
@BenRiceM oh, I saw one *in code* in one of the sessions, as in a string that started with regular quotes and ended with smart quotes 🫠
@BenRiceM I’m not even sure how that’s possible, as I assumed code was shown from Xcode itself
Craig Grannell@BenRiceM You just fired up my internal sub editor. Grahhhhhh.
troz
Daniel 🏳️🌈 Jilg 
Rick@BenRiceM Especially since those were probably authored in Keynote, which should’ve made the substitution automatically, right?